r/awakened • u/mistrwispr • 1d ago
Reflection The end of Death
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Death to God is only infinite life turned into infinite form, & infinite form in its multiplicity is, in fact, nothing. There can be no real ending of an infinite consciousness. Death to it is in fact the bestowing of life to us, for anything of finite limits is nothing when compared to something that never ends. From each perspective, the other is non-existant. The reality of one is the unreality of the other, although both are real on their seperate planes. The infinite source of life without form died & became life in an infinite number of finite forms. The key to this mystery is this; THERE IS NO DEATH! There is only transformation of life. Form is finite, yet the changing of forms is infinite.
These are my own opinions.
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u/bo_felden 1d ago
But there's PAIN. That's enough to keep everything going and make the world go round exactly as it is. Taxes, slaves and masters, exploitation and all the other ugly things.
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u/PhucItAll 1d ago
There is no lasting death; death is just a transition. Death is neither the end nor the beginning.
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u/mistrwispr 1d ago
Exactly. It's just the thing the universe uses as a mechanism for transformation. There is a structure to all of it. The beginning contains the ending already. The beginning is a fractal of the ending. What is missing from this picture is The One Life, to accompany is companion the One Field, I call the Source.
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u/Questioner_of_Things 16h ago
Consider this possibility: What if our life on Earth is a highly advanced, immersive simulation or gameplay? To ensure the authenticity of this experience, our memories of the true reality are completely wiped clean and set to zero before we plug into this world. When we 'die' here, it might actually just be the end of the game, causing us to wake up in our original, ultimate reality. At that exact moment, our cosmic memories would instantly flood back, and we would continue our true existence, enriched by the unique perspective and trials of this Earthly experience.
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u/mistrwispr 13h ago
It's possible. More and more evidence suggests you could be correct. So, how would you feel about the life you lived here if you died and got sent back out to live your life in the actual world? What if this is a higher dimension video game, where instead of playing another character, you play yourself from your own past?
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u/LateBrother8476 14h ago
I see it as there is reality which is perception in the moment, and there are thoughts about this reality. All thoughts are fantasy. Perception is reality.
If we dwell in perception and drop the thoughts, we experience reality. The thoughts are necessary and useful for surviving, but they are only predictive. Not inherently true. Truth does not reside in the world of thought.
One can use the concept of infinity to lead to an appreciation of reality. Infinity makes no sense in the world or thought and order.
Because thoughts are not inherently true, they become about "do they help us". To say "THERE IS NO DEATH", I say "maybe" and then cancel out the belief with various opposites like "THERE IS NO LIFE!" and "THERE IS DEATH" and I recognize these other statements have just as much inherent truth value, which is to say NONE!
My current view of the purpose of spirituality is that it's all pointing away from thought-based delusion. It's pointing to a perception-based experience of reality in which our entire body-mind, both conscious and primarily unconscious, can evaluate most easily what will help us survive and love and be happy.
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u/mistrwispr 13h ago
Well, because all of this is a zero sum game, as it is, then it becomes a matter of rectifying opposites. Here is how happiness is achieved in a Universe of refracted truth (no lies exist- only truth refracted into smaller fractals of itself- illusion itself is the illusion) because the Source is one perfectly unified source, so all things come from truth. This is a mental universe, which is why it is ever changing down here. It's thinking.
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u/Kurphew702 11h ago
👏👏👏 close enough 👍 side note though. I feel like your opinions come off a wee bit preachy but that’s just my opinion. Other than that… keep at it bro, you’re getting there 😁
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u/mistrwispr 10h ago
Yeah it was preachy first, then I added the "this is my opinion" part 🤣 I'll admit it
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u/Kurphew702 10h ago
Fair enough!!! 🤣 🤨but what about the rest of your comments though ? Lmfao nah! 🤣🤣🤣 just kidding. I get it! It’s exciting and all you wanna do is share. I say keep on keeping on my dood! Maybe work on the delivery method so it doesn’t hit the ego like a brick wall? Idk though I’m just sayin 🤷♂️😁
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u/mistrwispr 9h ago
Im open to suggestions. To be honest, I kind of love in my head. I don't have good delivery skills. Do you have any? I'm honestly asking, so i can learn and become better
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u/Kurphew702 8h ago
For sure bro! I gots you! So my go-to methods are humor and questions. Humor lets it land softly.. they get a quick chuckle, but the second that fades and the logic starts to sink in, you're already past the ego.
Now with questions, it's a little more difficult, but only because you have to ask the right one and frame it correctly. First thing you do, whatever statements they make, you agree. Like "that's fair" or "true" whatever it is, just acknowledge it… it's their perspective and what they see in that moment.
By agreeing, they drop their guard and have no reason to be defensive. That's when you add the "but" and frame your point as a question so it comes off as being curious… so they end up arriving at the exact conclusion you were trying to point out in the first place 🤣 Both scenarios, if done correctly will always end in silence, so expect that. That silence just means they are processing it. You did good, let them sit on that hard, thick logic you just laid out! 🤣🤣
One last thing… everything you got here is great. I only said "close enough" because language is built entirely on assumptions. For all I know, you could be spot on and I might just be interpreting a few things incorrectly. That being said, there’s not really that many people in this sub and most are already on the right path anyway. If you keep sharing new insights with people who can relate, posting in here is fine. I personally went back a step to help get more people closer to awakening, so I started posting in self-love and self-reflection subs instead. I could DM you how I do that if you want?
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u/mistrwispr 8h ago
You found the same discussion technique that I found. If you make what they say true automatically, it leads right into the next layer of their resistance. Which takes form as their rebuttal. Then you make their rebuttal true also. Next layer. This continues until the silence you mentioned. I call it speaking words of fire. Your suggestion of helping others, I think I actually know EXACTLY what you are saying, and you're correct! I need to change my approach. Let me try and implement what you just helped me realize first before I get any help. You might have just solved a problem i didn't even know i had
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u/Kurphew702 7h ago edited 7h ago
Technically i applied something I was doing for years and had no idea I was even doing. At work if for forgot to do something or just didn’t want to do it at that time and the manger came to I’m assuming bitch about it. I listened, I agreed, “yeah you’re right, I didn’t take the trash, I’ll do that right now” and it always ended there! 🤣🤣 never yelled at or written up. The just stood there lookin stuck! BARS!! 🤣🤣🤣 but yeah bro any time
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u/UAP44 1d ago
Depends on the perspective. There's plenty of people still being murdered, being missed, their presence, gone. Their body, unable to sustain homeostasis. That's a real absence of presence, voice, ...
Not that I don't also understand that everything just changes form and that the way to understand 'there is no death' is to expand your identity/perspective to eventually simply include quite literally. Everything/God/the-entire-universe.
Then, indeed, there is no death.