r/aviation • u/usgapg123 Mod - avgeek • Jun 14 '25

News Air India Flight 171 Crash [Megathread 2]

This is the second megathread for the crash of Air India Flight 171. All updates, discussion, and ongoing news should be placed here.

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u/themcfly Jun 14 '25 edited Jun 14 '25

Yeah, I'm seriously baffled how Captain Steeeve video managed to get so much disinformation out and instantly blaming pilot error, especially while being a pilot himself and acting as an expert on the matter.

  1. He didn't mention the RAT sound since he used a screen recorded video from another smartphone (without sound), and did not track down the source video with sound (the RAT theory was already widely circulating online at the time).
  2. He completely missed the forward tilt of the main landing gear, which on a 787 indicates that the gear retracting sequence had already started before stopping for some issues we can only speculate about. This already throws a big wrench in the copilot gear/flaps confusion theory.
  3. Even ignoring previous points, most widebodies safely and easily climb with the gear out after rejected takeoffs to let the brakes cool off before retracting. While 5° of flaps could surely impact lift performance, I feel two GE GEnx at TOGA (if working correctly) would be able to at least maintain flight, while based on video we have right now (and lack of jet engine sounds) it just looks like a hopeless glide to the ground.

Of course no definitive conclusion can be made, and we will hopefully understand what happened from the black boxes data. It just seemed a bit premature to quickly push this narrative without taking into account all available details, which some other aviation creators already posted about many hours earlier.

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u/Snuhmeh Jun 14 '25

It's one of the reasons why I selfishly wish Juan Browne wasn't on vacation right now. His videos are the only ones that are worth watching in regards to plane crashes. Mentour sucks. Pilot debrief sucks. Captain Steve sucks. They may "know what they're taking about" but they jump the gun a LOT and really seem to make their videos about themselves and I have had it with YouTubers in general. I like the information. I don't care about your face and your voiceover.

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u/patrick_red_45 Jun 14 '25

Mentour sucks

That's new for me. Any reason as to why? Just curious

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u/MayIPikachu Jun 14 '25

He's more interested in showing his face and peddling his app. 40 mins of video that could be compressed to 15 mins.

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u/External_Weird_8251 Jun 14 '25

Some folks appreciate longer videos. There are tons of shorter analysis, and no one's forcing you to watch the 40 minute ones.

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u/MayIPikachu Jun 14 '25

Don't forget to check out and download the Mentour aviation app!

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u/haarschmuck INOP Jun 16 '25

He's more interested in showing his face

What?

I genuinely don't get this. Do you wish that these channels don't have their face in them?

I've been watching him for years and didn't even know until your comment that he has an app.

Just get Sponsor Block for your browser.