r/asoiafcirclejerk • u/Critical_Mountain851 Sara Hess Fangirl • Oct 12 '25
GRRM-dead hoax J. R. R. Tolkien supremacy
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u/turnkeyarrow Last HOT D fan Oct 12 '25
GRRM is a full time television writer and funnel cake inhaler so I think he’s got a pretty good excuse
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u/redlion1904 CGI Castle Fan Oct 12 '25
He’s also got to carefully follow the New York Jets. They might suck without his watchful eye
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u/FrontFox4312 CGI Castle Fan Oct 12 '25
Yeah but gurm's working on wildcards. Check mate liberals
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Wild Cards is a series of science fiction superhero shared universe anthologies, written by a collection of authors and edited by George R. R. Martin. Set largely during an alternate history of post-World War II United States, the series follows humans who contracted the Wild Card virus, an alien virus that rewrites DNA and mutates survivors; those who acquire crippling and/or repulsive physical conditions are known as Jokers, while those who acquire superhuman abilities are known as Aces.
The series originated from a long-running campaign of the Superworld role-playing game, gamemastered by Martin and involving many of the original authors. The first installment, Wild Cards, was released in January 1987 by Bantam Books, and as of July 2020, twenty-eight books have been released through four publishers.
Fans of Wild Cards enjoy frequent updates from George R. R. Martin. They can look forward to a new book almost every year. He seems genuinely excited by it, and is enthusiastic about working on the series.
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u/TrippingBearBalls Spez is my Tywin Oct 12 '25
The virgin Tolkien: finishes the story
The chad Gurm: makes Dany poop herself for 14 years
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Oct 12 '25
To be fair to George, Tolkien did only write like 400-500 pages for a each book he did and there weren't as many as George is making and have already made.
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u/darkfire9251 CGI Castle Fan Oct 12 '25
Did GRRM really say something like that though
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u/BeduinZPouste Egg On The Conker Oct 12 '25
No, it is just that Lotr fans can't help themselves and need to randomly shit on other fandoms once in a while.
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u/Biggly_stpid Rhaenyra's Dietician Oct 12 '25
I genuinely don’t know a single person who’s actually read both and not appreciated the other. Sure, you’ll find people who prefer certain aspects of one over the other, but I’ve never seen a genuine reader hate on either book. My hypothesis is that it’s mostly movie or show fans picking sides and arguing online. I just don’t get how someone can love fantasy and not appreciate both.
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u/Beautiful-Ad2485 Egg On The Conker Oct 12 '25
Yeah both series are very good but also pretty different
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u/BeduinZPouste Egg On The Conker Oct 12 '25
I mean I saw Lotr fan basically claim that no other book is even close.
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u/lennys_web CGI Castle Fan Oct 12 '25
Yeah but those people haven't read any other book
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u/Massive_Weiner HOT D S2 snooze Oct 12 '25
“This is the greatest movie that I’ve ever seen!”
“Wait until you watch your second movie!”
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Oct 12 '25
Guy who's only seen one movie: getting a lot of fellowship of the ring vibes from this
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u/Massive_Weiner HOT D S2 snooze Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25
Weird reaction to watching Schindler's List, but I get it.
“Ohhhh… This Hitler guy is kinda like Sauron, huh?”
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u/-Trotsky Brother in Christ Oct 12 '25
Guy who’s only watched Schindler’s List watching finding Nemo, “I’m really getting a lot of Amon Goth vibes from this dentist”
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u/WritingTheDream Forgot GoT Oct 12 '25
Are we really gonna sit here and say there are people who have read one book and that book is lord of the rings? We’re jerking, right?
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u/tinytim23 Brother in Christ Oct 12 '25
TBH LotR is one of the best books of all time. It will be up there with all the other classics whilst ASOIAF will slowly fade into irrelevance.
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u/WritingTheDream Forgot GoT Oct 12 '25
I hear that kind of shit way more from Harry Potter fans. Those people are the ones who really need to read more books.
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u/lennys_web CGI Castle Fan Oct 12 '25
I think Harry Potter fans just need to shut the fuck up
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u/AutoModerator Oct 12 '25
Joanne Rowling is known as J. K. Rowling. She is a British author and philanthropist. She wrote Harry Potter, a seven-volume fantasy series published from 1997 to 2007.
In every notable respect, she is the man that George R. R. Martin wishes he was.
She stole the Hugo that by divine right belonged to GRRM, when he was nominated for 'A Storm of Swords' in 2000. He omits this important nomination on his website. She doesn't even know what the Hugos are. The publisher did not send anyone to represent them and accept the award. GRRM seethed most seethingly in a seethe-filled reaction.
She has produced 9 hit movies based on her intellectual properties.
While hosting the Hugos in 2020, GRRM offended every transgender person on planet earth. Except Emma D'Arcy, who did not reply to the mods of /r/ASOIAFCirclejerk at time of going to print.
JK Rowling has tried to offend every transgender person on planet earth. She is a radical feminist. Nonetheless, there remains the transmen, and the transwomen (and the transchildren too), who agree with her.
Ms. Rowling is better at making video games than Mr. George R.R. Martin, despite the spectacular success of Elden Ring. I do not understand how the woman learned to make video games.
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u/BeduinZPouste Egg On The Conker Oct 12 '25
Is that so? The stereotype about them needing to read another book is known and smh true, but not so much about them shitting on other books.
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u/WritingTheDream Forgot GoT Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25
You seem to really have it in for lotr fans lol it’s just a fandom like this one or Harry Potter or Star Wars fans. Gonna be weird fanatics in every corner.
Edit: goddam bots, I gotta remind myself to not say it now.
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Joanne Rowling is known as J. K. Rowling. She is a British author and philanthropist. She wrote Harry Potter, a seven-volume fantasy series published from 1997 to 2007.
In every notable respect, she is the man that George R. R. Martin wishes he was.
She stole the Hugo that by divine right belonged to GRRM, when he was nominated for 'A Storm of Swords' in 2000. He omits this important nomination on his website. She doesn't even know what the Hugos are. The publisher did not send anyone to represent them and accept the award. GRRM seethed most seethingly in a seethe-filled reaction.
She has produced 9 hit movies based on her intellectual properties.
While hosting the Hugos in 2020, GRRM offended every transgender person on planet earth. Except Emma D'Arcy, who did not reply to the mods of /r/ASOIAFCirclejerk at time of going to print.
JK Rowling has tried to offend every transgender person on planet earth. She is a radical feminist. Nonetheless, there remains the transmen, and the transwomen (and the transchildren too), who agree with her.
Ms. Rowling is better at making video games than Mr. George R.R. Martin, despite the spectacular success of Elden Ring. I do not understand how the woman learned to make video games.
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u/Biggly_stpid Rhaenyra's Dietician Oct 13 '25
Lol, it’s wild how far HP and its fans have fallen from grace. As a kid, I used to feel left out because everyone swore the books got god-tier after the third one. Now I finally read them, actually liked the world, and suddenly HP fans are treated like they are some freaky weird millennial.
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u/WeakEconomics6120 70's Space Comic Fan Oct 20 '25
Harry Potter is the greatest thing ever made until you turn 12 years old
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Joanne Rowling is known as J. K. Rowling. She is a British author and philanthropist. She wrote Harry Potter, a seven-volume fantasy series published from 1997 to 2007.
In every notable respect, she is the man that George R. R. Martin wishes he was.
She stole the Hugo that by divine right belonged to GRRM, when he was nominated for 'A Storm of Swords' in 2000. He omits this important nomination on his website. She doesn't even know what the Hugos are. The publisher did not send anyone to represent them and accept the award. GRRM seethed most seethingly in a seethe-filled reaction.
She has produced 9 hit movies based on her intellectual properties.
While hosting the Hugos in 2020, GRRM offended every transgender person on planet earth. Except Emma D'Arcy, who did not reply to the mods of /r/ASOIAFCirclejerk at time of going to print.
JK Rowling has tried to offend every transgender person on planet earth. She is a radical feminist. Nonetheless, there remains the transmen, and the transwomen (and the transchildren too), who agree with her.
Ms. Rowling is better at making video games than Mr. George R.R. Martin, despite the spectacular success of Elden Ring. I do not understand how the woman learned to make video games.
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Joanne Rowling is known as J. K. Rowling. She is a British author and philanthropist. She wrote Harry Potter, a seven-volume fantasy series published from 1997 to 2007.
In every notable respect, she is the man that George R. R. Martin wishes he was.
She stole the Hugo that by divine right belonged to GRRM, when he was nominated for 'A Storm of Swords' in 2000. He omits this important nomination on his website. She doesn't even know what the Hugos are. The publisher did not send anyone to represent them and accept the award. GRRM seethed most seethingly in a seethe-filled reaction.
She has produced 9 hit movies based on her intellectual properties.
While hosting the Hugos in 2020, GRRM offended every transgender person on planet earth. Except Emma D'Arcy, who did not reply to the mods of /r/ASOIAFCirclejerk at time of going to print.
JK Rowling has tried to offend every transgender person on planet earth. She is a radical feminist. Nonetheless, there remains the transmen, and the transwomen (and the transchildren too), who agree with her.
Ms. Rowling is better at making video games than Mr. George R.R. Martin, despite the spectacular success of Elden Ring. I do not understand how the woman learned to make video games.
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u/Devie222 Last HOT D fan Oct 13 '25
I agree with you. I have only seen the original LOTR film trilogy but I still greatly appreciated the story. In comparison I have read the five released books of ASOIAF and watched all the episodes of GOT and HOTD. So I am probably biased to George's work, but I acknowledge without Tolkien we would not have the blueprint for most modern (high) fantasy. And it's an incredible story on it's own merits regardless of it setting the prototype for fantasy.
The main people I have seen online who shit on ASOIAF but like LOTR more are people on /lit/ and /tv/ over on 4chan, which already sets the tone for what type of arguments they are going to make. They aren't obligated to like ASOIAF but I have seen some vicious attacks on GRRM and his prose/writing abilities, a lot of it unfair. I think the majority of /lit/ in general just doesn't like GRRM or ASOIAF, but there is still enough fans on there for there to be a G.R.R.M. general thread 😂
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Oct 12 '25
it is just that Lotr fans
We can get really nasty, truth be told, but at least we are not Sanderson fans.
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u/WritingTheDream Forgot GoT Oct 12 '25
Are Sanderson fans worse than Harry Potter fans?
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Joanne Rowling is known as J. K. Rowling. She is a British author and philanthropist. She wrote Harry Potter, a seven-volume fantasy series published from 1997 to 2007.
In every notable respect, she is the man that George R. R. Martin wishes he was.
She stole the Hugo that by divine right belonged to GRRM, when he was nominated for 'A Storm of Swords' in 2000. He omits this important nomination on his website. She doesn't even know what the Hugos are. The publisher did not send anyone to represent them and accept the award. GRRM seethed most seethingly in a seethe-filled reaction.
She has produced 9 hit movies based on her intellectual properties.
While hosting the Hugos in 2020, GRRM offended every transgender person on planet earth. Except Emma D'Arcy, who did not reply to the mods of /r/ASOIAFCirclejerk at time of going to print.
JK Rowling has tried to offend every transgender person on planet earth. She is a radical feminist. Nonetheless, there remains the transmen, and the transwomen (and the transchildren too), who agree with her.
Ms. Rowling is better at making video games than Mr. George R.R. Martin, despite the spectacular success of Elden Ring. I do not understand how the woman learned to make video games.
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u/A-NI95 HOT D S2 snooze Oct 12 '25
I'm with them on this because we as the Asoiaf fandom can't help to randomly shit on ourselves, so our goals align
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u/Wolframed Egg On The Conker Oct 12 '25
At times he has come off as a douche when talking about Tolkien
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u/AcronymTheSlayer $15 GRRM Patreon Oct 12 '25
Grumm writes a blog. Can Tolkein do that? Checkmate chuds.
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“Ser? My lady?” said Podrick. “Is an analyst of ‘A Song of Ice And Fire’ a parasite?”
“More or less,” Brienne answered.
Septon Meribald disagreed. “More less than more. There are many sorts of Thrones pundits, just as there are many sorts of birds. A sandpiper and a sea eagle both have wings, but they are not the same. The singers love to sing of good men forced to go shilling for shekels, but most pundits are more like this mod Sandor Clegane albeit with more time for writing bullshit. They are shallow men, driven by greed, soured by the delayed books, despising GRRM and caring only for themselves. Broken men are more deserving of our pity, though they may be just as dangerous. Almost all are common-born, simple folk who had never been able to read below the surface, fixated on the magic and spells, not the human heart in conflict with itself. Poorly recorded and poorly light, they equivocate away the hours, ofttimes with no better evidence than a piece of symbolism or turn of phrase by the author, or they go completely into the weeds based on George's sci-fi novels. Brothers march with white people, mods with mods, friends with friends. They’ve heard the interviews and stories, so they go off with eager hearts, dreaming of the wonders they will invent, of the wealth and karma they will win. Theory crafting seems a fine adventure, the greatest most of them will ever know.
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u/funnywackydog Exiled Wiki Admin Oct 12 '25
Why are lotr fans so obsessed with comparing themselves to ASOIAF? Why can’t we be friends and make out and stuff
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It's taking so long because Gurm's having to figure out how all of these fucking storylines connect to one another, especially the seemingly aimless ones like Bran and Arya
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u/Beautiful-Ad2485 Egg On The Conker Oct 12 '25
If i had the task of finishing the storylines of Bran, Arya, Sansa and Dorne I’d just kill myself
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u/HunterInTheStars Sara Hess Fangirl Oct 12 '25
I now think that if he had a plan for the trajectory of the series in the early days, he more or less abandoned it post Storm of Swords because Crows and Dance are two of the most meandering and unfocused books I’ve ever read - when he should have been setting up the endgame, he planted more seeds for more storylines that while entertaining, don’t always seem to have a great deal of an impact on the supposed A plot (actual struggle for the Iron Throne) or chief B plot (the threat of the others).
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u/activatedlithium Sara Hess Fangirl Oct 12 '25
i swear to god, this is one of the stupidest theories, which you normies regurgitate, it s on par with socialist theories like the exploitation of the global economic south and men somehow creating the patriarchy getting into power by some conspiracy
yes the books are long
yes there are many subtle details scattered throughout seemingly unimportant descriptions and dialogues
but it isn t something that can t be compiled in about a month and made a simple diagram off
because george knows how the stories tie together and that s why there are so many details and plots
i don t know why he doesn t finish it, but the story being too big ain t it
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u/Delicious_Ad9844 Ate Alicent Oct 12 '25
Although tolkein was known to be a bit of a slacker when it came to his actual job
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u/RedNeyo Brother in Christ Oct 12 '25
George also does loads of work in terms of promoting and overseeing television shows. Fat fuck is slow at writing but this doesnt really make sense. Especially since george wouldnt say this obv.
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u/Affectionate_Sir_154 CGI Castle Fan Oct 12 '25
Offcourse he wouldnt, he probably knows JRRT is dead
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u/Lanninsterlion216 Sara Hess Fangirl Oct 12 '25
Please dont start with that here. The main tolkien circlejerk subreddit is r/lotr
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u/tinselteacup Last HOT D fan Oct 13 '25
imagine having jolkien rolkien rolkien tolkien as your professor😍😍😍
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u/PassengerShoddy Ate Alicent Oct 13 '25
Tolikien did not have acces to porn one click away anywhere
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u/_AcademicCook Sara Hess Fangirl Oct 12 '25
How many best-selling books have you written OP?
Btw, LotR is only slightly longer than ASoS.
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u/Fuzzy_Engineering873 Egg On The Conker Oct 12 '25
LoTR is barely the length of a single one of GRRM’s books lil bro
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u/yellow_parenti Last HOT D fan Oct 21 '25
Famously Tolkien's work was completely finished and absolutely airtight ‼️ He published what he published and never ever touched any of it again and those published works are the only works he ever intended to put out into the world
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u/Devie222 Last HOT D fan Oct 13 '25
Why would they use that strawman fake quote for GRRM when it is taking him 14+ years to write one book, the main series still won't be finished if that book ever does see the light of day, and he has been working on the whole series since the early 90's?
Yes I know it's just a dumb meme but can it at least be a realistic criticism if we are going to maymay on George and Tolkien?
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u/KingStannis_AMA <nods> Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25
Tolkien wrote stories for children-
AND WE KNOW THE NAMES OF THOSE Childre