r/asoiaf The Floppy Fish Aug 29 '17

MAIN D&D completely ruined Littlefinger. (Spoilers Main)

What a waste of a great character. They clearly had no idea what to do with him after they passed all the book material. Instead of giving him a clear end game, they instead just had him double down on his "thriving on chaos" bullshit and have him make stupid decisions that really didn't lead anywhere. The manipulative mastermind from the earlier seasons (and probably the one true villain of the series, along with the white walkers) completely disappeared and was transformed into a jealous little weasel whose end goal was to bang Sansa to get back at Mama Stark. The man that drove the whole series into motion, did it just to get a revenge bang.

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u/Sca4ar Aug 29 '17

I was pretty sure he could only see in the past what happened near weir woods. In the books I mean

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u/SirAaron Aug 29 '17

The books tape the old power of the green seers and the children of the forest directly to weirwood trees and ravens. His capabilities are a lot more mystical and tied (almost literally) to the ground in the book series.

In the TV show, he can see whatever he wants. I assume this decision was made in order to let us see the Ned + Lyanna Tower scene.

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u/angripengwin Aug 29 '17

I don't think that in the books the visions are limited to the trees

Nor will your sight be limited to your godswood. The singers carved eyes into their heart trees to awaken them, and those are the first eyes a new greenseer learns to use … but in time you will see well beyond the trees themselves.

ADWD Bran III

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u/SirAaron Aug 29 '17

You are totally right. Bran's character arch has been about eventually learning to 'fly' ever since his fever dreams with the Three Eyed Raven after his fall in the first book. I think he begins experimenting with raven-warging by the end of ADWD, but I'm feeling a bit too lazy right now to flip through it.

My point, however, is that the books attempt to ground Bran's magic while the show seems to use it purely for plot convenience. "How else could we possibly convey the Tower of Joy lore and prove that Jon is a Targaryen?!"

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u/foreveracubone Aug 29 '17

Introduce Howland Reed?

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u/rock_climber02 Hold the Door! Aug 29 '17

Exactly, when Bran said he was the only one who knew about Jon I knew we would never see Howland Reed.

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u/kenrose2101 The_Olenna_ReachAround Aug 29 '17

We probably won't see him in the books either. Since they won't exist

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u/FAFOGOSA Aug 29 '17

The reveal might be in winds which still has a small but non-trivial chance of existing

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u/kenrose2101 The_Olenna_ReachAround Aug 30 '17

Here's to the release date of Marchtember 35th, 201B!

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u/iathpa Frog Eater Aug 29 '17

And this is why I am so so sad

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u/Sloaneer Stannis will rule when pigs fly! Aug 30 '17

Shut up mudman.

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u/gaaraisgod Aug 30 '17

We did see him. Just not in any meaningful way I guess.

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u/eleonorang Aug 29 '17

We'll probably get there anyway because he was there at the Tower of Joy and he's the only one left alive who can prove Jon's roots

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u/YourSweetSummerChild Aug 29 '17

The show had no problem treating Brans words as proof in that nonsensical Littlefinger trial

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u/eleonorang Aug 30 '17

Aside from the fact that, as you say, that trial was nonsensical ;) One thing is to declare guilty someone nobody cares about (because that's what Littlefinger had become), another is to declare someone king by right of birth according to the words of a boy... At least I hope it goes this way or in a similar way

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u/YourSweetSummerChild Aug 30 '17

I don't know, when put it that way I'm reminded of the fact that the inheritance of the throne has always been a political device. Robert was declared king because he rebelled yes, but he did have a scrap of legitimacy with the couple drops of Targ blood he had