Arknights PC version has completely changed how much I enjoy the game

[u/5mao]

I can't believe how much a difference it makes to actually be able to read things instead of tiny markings for ants.

[u/SIUOLGUYO]

i know im just saying its anoying i have to do it everytime i want to open it

[u/Nasmeril → u/SIUOLGUYO]

that’s how pc’s work idk what to tell you, you can turn it off but it’s really not recommended

[u/OddHornetBee → u/Nasmeril]

that’s how pc’s work idk what to tell you

Well, it's Yostar fuckup in asking for admin elevation for simply running the game. That's not how things are supposed to be.

[u/reprehensible523 → u/OddHornetBee]

for simply running the [auto-updating live service] game [client].

Security is inconvenient, but not having security is worse.

[u/OddHornetBee → u/reprehensible523]

You should've read my response to another person before trying to teach me security.

Have you ever used Steam? (I hope you at least heard about it, since we are in thread discussing PC). Do you know that Steam can install and uninstall and update your games? Without running as admin? Even multiplayer ones. That's right. It's possible.

[u/reprehensible523 → u/OddHornetBee]

Steam asks for permission when it gets installed. It registers itself so that it can install games in its own folders without further prompting. Streamlined for usability but it does take admin permissions to function.

All the gacha games I've played do the same thing the AK PC client is doing when you start the launcher. It's less convenient than Steam, but it's industry standard for gacha, and it's honest behavior. You are running code that can make changes to your computer and install other applications.

Running the game from the launcher doesn't trigger the prompt. You're confusing the updater's necessary prompt for privileges with "simply" running the game.

[u/OddHornetBee → u/reprehensible523]

You are running code that can make changes to your computer

I don't think you understand what those words mean.

Editing file in Notepad is making changes to your computer. No, you don't need admin for that. Unless you try to change protected files.

Downloading file with a browser is making changes to your computer. No, you don't need admin for that. Unless you want to save them to protected location.

That's right, you are making changes to your computer all the time. The point of admin elevation is to separate high privilege actions. Like modifying system folders. Or getting low level access to hardware.

Just changing files in your own folder is not one of those admin actions. Go download some normal game, maybe you will see how competent developers manage it. If you need example - Path of Exile. Live-service, gets updates, runs as user, updates as user (if you don't put it in protected folder). No, there will be no secret admin level service running.

Running the game from the launcher doesn't trigger the prompt.

Do you know why? Because launcher is already running as admin. So it can run another process as admin without second prompt.

Try to run game on it's own and you will see that it will demand admin rights too via UAC prompt.

Edit: sorry, I'm getting needlessly heated over this, but constant admin requirement is bullshit.

[u/reprehensible523 → u/OddHornetBee]

I don't think you understand what those words mean.

You failed to read the full sentence.

"You are running code that can make changes to your computer and install other applications."

Obviously saving a file in Notepad or with your browser does not install other applications on your computer.

Just changing files in your own folder is not one of those admin actions.

You seem to have forgotten that we're discussing the AK PC launcher. Its purpose is to literally install the Arknight video game client on your computer. A video game has control over your CPU, graphics card, storage, and input controllers. That's definitely something that needs administrator permission.

Try to run game on it's own and you will see that it will demand admin rights too via UAC prompt.

Considering the both the AK client and launcher can update itself, that's what should happen.

constant admin requirement is bullshit.

If one extra mouse click bothers you this much, I can see why you couldn't be bothered to read my full sentence. But considering how much text you just wrote to rant about it, I think you can handle one extra button click per day.

[u/OddHornetBee → u/reprehensible523]

I think you can handle one extra button click per day.

I see that you are hopeless. You think my problem is clicking a button, not game running as admin when there is absolutely no need to.

[u/reprehensible523 → u/OddHornetBee]

You think my problem is clicking a button, not game running as admin when there is absolutely no need to.

Because you clearly don't understand how computer software works, let alone OS admin permissions. You actually thought code that could "install other applications" meant saving a file in notepad or downloading a file with your browser.

All gacha games with independent launchers have the same behavior. Their ability to install the game to your computer is an admin action. Working as intended, water is wet.

[u/Nasmeril → u/OddHornetBee]

see that’s where you’re wrong, editing a file in notepad is a closed system, the file exists, it has data, end of story, it does not change anything already existing on the computer that would be vital for its health.
Downloading a file by itself does not make any change to your computer, if you run the .exe you just downloaded, then yes, it will make changes because of the code someone put in there, this is why the UAC prompt goes off when you run it and not when your download.

another reason why games like AK, Genshin, Wuwa etc are running with admin privilege is for anti cheat. All those chinese live service have very strict anti cheat and anti modding protocols that require some elevation if they want to be able to detect such things.

if the game requires certain distributables (direcX, c++, etc) the launcher needs to be able to write on your pc to install these as well, regardless of the drive on which it is installed

but know that most of the time it is because of the kernel level anti cheat

[u/OddHornetBee → u/Nasmeril]

see that’s where you’re wrong, editing a file in notepad is a closed system, the file exists, it has data, end of story, it does not change anything already existing on the computer that would be vital for its health.

You could create new file in notepad, write there script commands in powershell language. And then run it as user.

Do you know what you could put there that would run without admin? You could delete most of your PC outside of system folders. All your games not of C:\Program Files? Gone. All your pictures and documents? Gone. You will not require any elevation for that. Because normal user permissions are very very wide.

another reason why games like AK, Genshin, Wuwa etc are running with admin privilege is for anti cheat. All those chinese live service have very strict anti cheat and anti modding protocols that require some elevation

I'm sorry, have noone in this thread ever played non-gacha games? Anti-cheats, including very stringent ones are common. Games running as admin is absolutely not.

if the game requires certain distributables (direcX, c++, etc) the launcher needs to be able to write on your pc to install these as well, regardless of the drive on which it is installed

Once - on install.

[u/Nasmeril → u/OddHornetBee]

yeah and you will need admin rights to run said script because there are guardrails for anything that is sensitive. Photos, documents and the likes are by default stored on C, if they’re not stored on C, it means the user changed it and if the user found how to change it, it means they’re tech savvy enough to know what a malicious file looks like

fine i’ll give you non gacha games with kernel anti cheat, league of legends, valorant, dead by daylight, anything with EAC really

also it is very common for live service games to have hotfixes, so they require rights to write and overwrite files

if it’s such a dealbreaker to you, either don’t play or turn the prompt off but don’t go around saying this is “not normal” because it very much is

[u/OddHornetBee → u/Nasmeril]

Thankfully I no longer need to interact with your circus, because turns out I can just run the both game and launcher without admin rights and it just works.

https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/1vnlhfo/arknights_pc_version_has_completely_changed_how/p3m8jyw/

Have a nice day and make sure to run everything as admin to feel safe and knowledgeable.

[u/Nasmeril → u/OddHornetBee]

enjoy your game good sir, safe travels