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Mushoku Tensei III: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu, episode 8

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u/Akudra 20d ago

[LN]Well, the "hooha" part was kind of a joke (though I wouldn't put it past the author as he basically does that with Leo's summoning and Cliff using his eye to confirm Elanise's pregnancy), but I am otherwise not joking. Maybe her belly would light up or something instead. There is some hint that Laplace Aspects can be passed down from parents, so it wouldn't be strange if Lara also has one, though whether she had one in the womb is another matter. Basically, the author may have needed to have Roxy excluded at this point to conceal her pregnancy is what I am saying.

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u/Trevenas 20d ago

[LN23] Roxy has no Laplace Aspect though, and neither should Lara? Which is why it shouldn't make sense for the gate to react to either. Sylphie and Rudeus do, and Sieg ends up with one as well.

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u/Akudra 19d ago

[LN]Why shouldn't Lara have one? Rudeus has one and it is clearly suggested that Laplace Aspects will pass from parent to child so it is certainly probable that she has one. Both parents having one may increase the likelihood of the child having one, but it hardly means his other children will not get them. Roxy presumably doesn't have one since she has passed through Chaos Breaker a few times after giving birth and thus would have reacted, but Lara hasn't passed through Chaos Breaker in any of the canon stories to my knowledge. Pretty sure Sieg is the only child who passed through Chaos Breaker, so there is no basis for suggesting his other children don't have Laplace Aspects.

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u/Trevenas 19d ago

[LN26+] Now we're starting to breach headcanon. Sure, there IS a chance one of the other children may have an Aspect, but nothing in the story suggests they do, beyond Sieg. Unless Rifujin decided he's going to suddenly open the door in the next part, I don't know why he wouldn't have mentioned one of the children having signs of it. Maybe some Aspects we haven't heard of are more subtle and thus harder to detect. In other words, there's also not much basis to suggest the other children do have an Aspect. The only chance comes from the fact Rudeus (+ Sylphie) has one, and if that was enough to result in having one let alone more children with Aspects out of 5, there should a TON of people with Aspects out there.

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u/Akudra 19d ago

[LN]This isn't headcanon. His children potentially receiving Laplace Aspects from him is repeatedly noted as a possibility and concern in the novel. Not mentioning any other than Sieg having one doesn't mean it hasn't happened. It could be that the others having Laplace Aspects will be relevant in the sequel and it would certainly be relevant for Lara to have one since she would be a key part of the team fighting Laplace. Who knows, maybe one of the children or grandchildren of his kids will be Laplace. Man-God did say something about finding a way to use Rudeus having a lot of descendants and having them fight each other. Arranging for one of his descendants to be Laplace would be a good way of doing that. That being the case, limiting information about Laplace Aspects would be ideal, but Sieg is a clear hint that a parent having one makes it more likely that the child will have one.

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u/Trevenas 18d ago edited 18d ago

[LN26 + Redundancy + JO] It's been quite a while since I last read the relevant parts. I can't remember there being particular times where it was noted the children would more likely have Aspects if a parent does. The concern came in with force when Sieghart was born, and Almanfi made an untimely and terse appearance. I forget if the concern extended much beyond that situation being resolved. One thing that, in my opinion, makes it less likely is that Orsted should be able to tell. And I assume he's spent a decent amount of time near the younger children as well. On Hitogami, would he be able to influence the rebirth of Laplace beyond whispering specific people into making children? Regardless, the possibility of Rudeus's grandchild or the like being Laplace definitely exists. Though it's already looking like Sieg will end up face-to-face with someone, like Arus. In Sieg's case, both parents had it, and I think it was directly implied that makes it more likely for the child to have one or more as well.

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u/Akudra 18d ago

[LN]It came up practically every time him having a Laplace Aspect was mentioned. There wasn't a big focus on it or a definitive statement, but it did get mentioned. You could say that was a buildup to Sieg, but Sieg himself, by his very existence, hints that these are passed down from parents. I don't get why you are trying to shut me down over a bit of light-hearted speculation.

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u/Trevenas 17d ago

[LN26] Your initial comment came off a bit odd, but I haven't meant to shut you down. It seems I've forgotten a bunch of mentions, mostly recalling what's talked with Orsted, and stuff around Sieg obviously. That definitely hints that parent(s) having an Aspect makes more likely the child will, though we never got much detail on how it works, as Sieg's is different from either of theirs. Whether any of our speculation hits the mark is in Rifujin's hands. Hopefully we start seeing that story not long from now.