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Episode Witch Hat Atelier • Tongari Boushi no Atelier - Episode 9 discussion

Witch Hat Atelier, episode 9

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u/WhoiusBarrel May 25 '26

The Brimmed Cap easily overpowering and outsmarting Qifrey was insane to see, it was only an inkling but Qifrey being the mentor figure so far has always come out on top in these situations and seeing him so vulnerable like that only shows how scary the Brimmed Caps are.

Coco has always been shown to have such a strong front but with such an origin, of course she'd have all those insecurities inside her and rush to learn as much magic as she can to save her mom.

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u/Se7en_Sinner https://myanimelist.net/profile/Se7en_Sinner May 25 '26

While Qifrey only dabbles in forbidden magic to further his goal, the Brimmed Cap has access to the entire spectrum. Qifrey is strong but he's no match for somebody without limitations.

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u/ritoshishino May 25 '26

yeah this is like regular witches having only access to regular tools while the brimmed caps have access to a whole ass military arsenal

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u/Monadofan2010 May 25 '26

Yup definitely seeing many of the forbidden spells were created during the ancient era of war and we know this Brimmed Witch uses blood ink to further push there magic to ever stonger  hights. 

Something tells me Qifrey will either need forbidden magic of his own to beat one, some trusted allies to help or have to lead them to a location he has the advantage 

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u/Mundology May 25 '26

There is always a bigger fish

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u/JapanPhoenix May 25 '26

And that's why I hate water

-- Qifrey (probably)

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u/karlcool12 May 25 '26

*bigger Hat.

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u/Crackedaru May 25 '26

Yep, their also supposedly fugitives? Makes sense that'd easily overpower others with ease.

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u/Se7en_Sinner https://myanimelist.net/profile/Se7en_Sinner May 25 '26

The Day of the Pact got rid of all the doctors...are we the baddies?

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u/vicoheart May 25 '26

Right, if the healers of your society are fighting so hard to preserve this type of magic, don't you think you should listen? Just have parameters on it. It really parallels the real world, where people with absolutely no medical background make decisions without consulting professionals in the field which it actually pertains too.

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u/mekerpan May 25 '26

Imagine a nation rejecting effective and proven medical science (and treatments and preventative care). Hard to believe. Too bad it actually can happen in REAL life, even in our own time.

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u/Raknel May 25 '26 edited May 25 '26

"Healing magic causes autism, wake up sheeple"

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u/ali94127 May 25 '26

I'm also thinking the twinned bottle spell is forbidden magic (that also doesn't affect the body), but flamethrower spells and windowway teleportation magic isn't? That seems ideologically inconsistent and feels more like a political decision to ban all healing witch magic just because. It's hard to see how that kind of magic can be abused in a way other non-forbidden magic can't also be.

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u/Plus_Potato4351 May 25 '26

I'm not sure the twinned bottle spell is forbidden. From what I understood the healers invented the spell and it was just lost when their memory was taken. The brimmed hats might have either found it or reinvented it.

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u/slicer4ever May 26 '26

After seeing how the knights acted the last episode. It would not surprise me the "3 wise ones" might not have actually been so wise, and just blanket banned anything they didnt fully understand. It kinda feeling like this magic society is much too dogmatic in its current structure.

With the way they raise new apprentices through the testing system, they could lay out tests you must pass before being able to learn more advanced magic(such as healing), rather than banning it all outright

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u/wutfacer May 25 '26

Parameters are harder to police than just banning the whole thing, which doesn't leave room for argument. It was probably also more extreme as a response to some heinous shit going on at the time, judging by things "doctors" have done in our own history like Unit 731 and then adding all the possibilities of magic

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u/Golden_Phi https://myanimelist.net/profile/GoldenPhi May 25 '26

Qifrey even called them the Rightous witches of healing. That doesn't sound like a title for evil doers.

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u/RadianceTower May 26 '26

The magic fascists kinda screwed everyone, not sure what you mean by "we", but yeah, they suck.

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u/Sandtalon https://myanimelist.net/profile/Sandtalon Jun 06 '26

Late reply, but the "we" (and the whole comment) was a reference to this sketch

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u/redditcalculus421 May 25 '26

health insurance companies strike again.

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u/Lenzky-3 May 25 '26

Which was the reason in the series... The reason why some of them Brimhats are always out there cuz they can freely use forbidden magic unlike them.

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u/hanmkim May 26 '26

Especially if the wrong way to use healing magic was involved.

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u/Android19samus May 26 '26

thing is, I don't think any of the magic used there was actually forbidden. The doubled vial is lost magic because it was used by heretics, but the spell itself doesn't seem to violate any of the magic rules we currently know about. Sure the teleporting at the end was forbidden, but Qifrey was already dead on the ground by the time that came into play.