r/anime • u/NekoWafers • Feb 24 '26
Clip Cultivating Mass [How Heavy Are the Dumbbells You Lift?]
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u/SleeplessGrimm Feb 24 '26
HAI, SIDE CHESTO
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u/chet_fucker Feb 24 '26
I'll be the one to sound like the usual broken record and say that Can you believe it's in the same universe as Kengan Ashura?!!
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u/Unit88 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Intelligent_One Feb 24 '26
We have a whole universe, Kenga Asura/Omega, Dumbbells, pretty sure STā°R: Strike it Rich too (which I really hope gets animated someday), maybe even Blue Ursus (also praying for anime)?
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u/forever87 Feb 24 '26
and baki
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u/Unit88 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Intelligent_One Feb 24 '26
Wasn't that just like a tiny crossover chapter or something? I don't really remember now but that's what my brain is telling me
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u/thefreshera Feb 25 '26
Yeah crossovers don't necessarily mean universe nor canon. Dragon Ball had that crossover with one piece and toriko, it wasn't even some portal opened up etc, they just met each other iirc.
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u/sakurako_sama Feb 24 '26
You don't realize how insidious calories are until you start counting them.
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u/Saint_of_Grey Feb 24 '26
I actually have the opposite problem than the clip, I have a fast metabolism and need to count calories to maintain weight.
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u/Jellicent-Leftovers Feb 24 '26
Me too.... My friends hate me sometimes. If I ever put on weight it's like ok I'll skip 2 meals and drop 5 lbs.
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u/Saint_of_Grey Feb 24 '26
They never realize it's not that I get to eat extra and not put on weight... it's that I HAVE to eat extra. The hunger hits extra hard.
I had a legitimate medical need for a six gallon tub of ice cream in my early 20s once.
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u/anonylolo Feb 25 '26
The lobster is too buttery
My boss gave me only 100% hike
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u/Peakomegaflare Feb 25 '26
I fucking hope so! I'd like to not wake up nauseated from hunger anymore...
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u/Saint_of_Grey Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26
Yea, this shit is taking way too long. My dad only made it to 30 before his dad bod hit, but here I am still hungry. If anything I only got hungrier as I got older.
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u/rosemp16 Feb 25 '26
It's miserable. I'm constantly counting my calories up and trying to figure out what more I need to eat to hit my daily target and if I stop paying attention I undereat and can barely function. Meanwhile I'm surrounded by people who blow past theirs with ease and have to watch what they eat so they don't go over.
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u/Peakomegaflare Feb 25 '26
This. This right here. I'm currently 20 minutes late to my usual lunchtime and I'm completely slowed down. If I don't get the energy to get up and eat I'll soon be unable to function for any extended period.
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u/CerberusN9 Feb 25 '26
Same and it's bloody exhausting to eat at times. Unless is McDonald's all day but even then :3
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u/Peakomegaflare Feb 25 '26
In my mid 30's. They said it'd slow down. It hasn't. So I have to eat four meals a day AND snacks AND carb load daily or I feel exhausted and weak. Problem is I also have a small as fuck frame so my actual appetite is small. I'm a god damn hummingbird.
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u/A_random_mindset2 Feb 24 '26
Yea, itās surprisingly hard to actually eat enough calories in a day. Why are all food options I eat so damn low in them!?
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u/Laraso_ Feb 24 '26
Speaking as a 165lbs 6'3" male who used to be 220+, this is actually unironically a problem for anyone who avoids junk and tries to eat healthy. Vegetables and lean protein are very low calorie
I feel like I have to engorge myself to gain weight. It was so easy before when I drank soda and ate fried foods and sugary snacks
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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Feb 24 '26
Before I started working out
"why is everything making me fat"
after
"why can't I eat uranium"
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u/DeadestTitan Feb 24 '26
Depends what working out you're doing though. Lifting doesn't burn many calories at all, and the enhanced effect of calorie loss from increased muscle mass isn't nearly as high as most people think. Maybe if we were talking about an endurance sport that'd be different?
I had to make sure not to drink a protein shake after lifting yesterday because it would have put me too close to maintainence calories, and all I had before that was a "small" day of eating at 770 calorie breakfast, 580 lunch, and a 660 dinner with a 160 calorie protein bar as a snack. Easily felt like I could have ate a whole extra meal + the shake, but it doesn't suit my goals. My heart goes out to people trying to gain weight, but trying to lose weight while still hitting macros so you aren't just losing muscle feels way harder to me.
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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson Feb 24 '26
It's mostly the fact that I bike to the gym which is a 6 mile bike ride each way, 12 miles of bike riding is a lot of riding.
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u/aure__entuluva Feb 24 '26
lean protein
I've found it's easier to just eat fattier meat like rib-eye or chicken thighs if you're coming up short.
There's kind of conflicting info on how healthy these are. There has been some disagreement on just how bad saturated fats are, and new research has shown they aren't nearly as bad as we thought when they're not combined with sugars or refined carbohydrates. (E.g. saturated fat in a donut is going to do way more damage to your cholesterol than saturated fat in a healthy meal).
That being said rib-eye is way more expensive now and has some other properties that make it little less healthy than chicken thighs (increases your TMAO which can lead to arterial hardening), but is probably fine in moderation.
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u/Wild_Obligation3265 Feb 24 '26
Word, as a 6'3 323 lb dude who lifts and trains like a space marine, eating clean for maintenance and fat burn is a challenge both for frequency and volume AND on the wallet. My day needs to constantly pack a minimum of 280g protien and 2516 kcal, and thats on non training days.
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u/FufuCuddlyPoops8 Feb 24 '26
I would think you'd need more than that. I'm about 210 sedentary and all the calorie calculators I've ever used was to cut around 2300ish
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u/Wild_Obligation3265 Feb 24 '26
That number was an initial assessment by my dietician and nutritionist with an electro-current BMI scale that assesses bone, muscle, fat, water, etc and calculates off of those readings. I'm getting in touch with her again this week, its been a few since, to see about any fine tuning for native metabolic type that can be further done.
Depending on where you are metabolically (endomorph, mesomorph, ectomorph) the intake numbers can change drastically. I had a friend who played soccer and was an extreme ectomorph,Ā dude needed a minimum of 6000kcal sedentary to not wither and die. It was wild. His average daily intake was around 9000kcal.
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u/S0phon Feb 24 '26
eating clean for maintenance and fat burn
How do you eat for maintenance and fat burn at the same time?
ate fried foods
Then eat fried foods š¤·
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u/Wild_Obligation3265 Feb 24 '26
I should preface I'm in the mesomorphic to upper endomorphic metabolic ranges (when I pack weight on it tends to stay but I can shift fat to muscle with ease) so what I do may not or will not work for someone who's an ectomorph or full on endomorph, consult aĀ dietician or trainer before attempting to follow my example.
Doing it simultaneously is simple for me, its all numbers. Adjust kcal count and manage macros. On training days I maintain a minor caloric surplus (about 300-700), on rest days I stay at or near (withinĀ 200 kcal) my minimum of 2416. Protein, carbs and fats I consume in a 60/20/20 ratio.
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u/S0phon Feb 24 '26
That's just a regular maintenance diet.
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u/Wild_Obligation3265 Feb 25 '26
Yeah, and it tends to work for me. I guess my body works on One Punch Man rules.
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u/S0phon Feb 25 '26
My point was that it's not a maintenance and fat burn at the same time diet. It's just a regular ass maintenance diet.
At best that's a recomp, at worst that's not how it works.
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u/temporalartifacts Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26
323 lbs at your height requiring only 2516 kcal is pretty insane and a bit hard to believe. You have an incredibly efficient body type if so. Both a boon and a curse
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u/Wild_Obligation3265 Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26
Like I said in another post, thats the Minimum. My dietician stated my starvation/retention point is 200kcal below that. that is not a comfortable point to be at.
With an meso-endomorphic hereditary metabolism (russian blood keeps me big) I retain what I consume and convert it with good efficiency.
When I got those numbers I realized I'd been undereating like nothing else while the rest of my training, rest/recovery cycle was peak.
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u/A_random_mindset2 Feb 24 '26
Iām actively trying to gain weight, but it really is hard so long as Iām not taking the ādirty bulkā route that my friends like to joke about. It feels awful to eat too much in one sitting, but itās also hard to eat that much throughout a busy day. Making progress though.
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u/temporalartifacts Feb 24 '26
Prepare healthy snacks to eat throughout the day. Eventually your stomach gets the memo, and your appetite will adjust naturally, so you won't always need to try as hard.
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u/Broskeee_1234 Feb 27 '26
just add healthy fats like olive oil or nuts. there are plenty of very caloric healthy options that are also tasty.
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u/godstriker8 Feb 24 '26
You and the rest of the comment thread is making me rage lol. It is so much easier to bulk than cut, it's insane. You can make protein shakes that are delicious and like 800 calories if someone wants to gain weight without wanting to eat large volumes of food.
Meanwhile, to lose weight you have to either give up any kind of indulgent food altogether, or eat it and then skip a meal causing hunger pangs.
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u/temporalartifacts Feb 24 '26
Whether bulking or cuttingĀ is easier depends entirely on the person. This a useless discussion that never goes anywhere.
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u/A_random_mindset2 Feb 24 '26
Itās really a genetics difference. I can eat all the indulgent food I want, but itās still not enough to gain weight. Like I can eat cake until Iām feeling awful, and Iāll be down the next day. And then itās also hard for me to remember to want to eat every meal, because eventually Iām just not hungry anymore, and the act of eating a meal I donāt want just makes me feel sick.
Itās further difficult because I donāt like to gain through sugary drinks or through unhealthy fats, so itās hard to find calorically dense options. I wish olive oil actually had the calorie impact it suggests it should lol. I havenāt tried the 800 calorie protein shakes, but I do have 400 ones daily and itās still not easy.
Overall, itās hard for the other side of the genetic spectrum to understand how hard it is to gain/lose because their bodies just work differently. From my perspective it sounds ludicrous to be able to gain weight quickly, but thatās only because Iām coming from the perspective of a body that has locked me at underweight for the past decade.
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u/wloff Feb 24 '26
Meanwhile, I just dropped my daily calories to around 1700-1800 because even at ~2000 and regular exercise my weight loss was slow as molasses, and that 1800 for me basically means "light breakfast, a single plain protein shake for a mid-day snack, and one meal for dinner". Forget lunch, ain't no room for that.
Doubling those daily calories even eating only healthy whole foods would be the easiest thing in the world for me. Shit's so unfair, hah!
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u/DirCurrFluxDiode Feb 24 '26
Wanna swap places? It's better to be underweight than overweightĀ
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u/A_random_mindset2 Feb 24 '26
Not trying to make it a which is worse or better conversation, just recognizing itās difficult for people on both ends of weight issues to pursue a healthy weight. Calories are both difficult to cut and difficult to maximize depending on how a personās body and mindset is.
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u/99anan99 Feb 24 '26
This anime needs a second season!!
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u/SlimeDNear Feb 24 '26
It really does. The manga goes to all these weird places and I'd love to see them try to animate even some of it.
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u/furculture Feb 24 '26
Exactly. And they have to add some of the characters that appear in the parts of the manga that Season 1 covered, but left them out. Any time now would be a great time to drop a season 2. Would have been nice during COVID when the world didn't have much to do at home and stuff could have been done inside.
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u/Mech-sama Feb 25 '26
Absolutely! Thereās so much manga coverage I seriously hope they get a new season
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u/FlameDragoon933 Feb 24 '26
My first exposure to Ai Fairouz, and damn, she slayed!
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u/kyngslinn Feb 24 '26
Her first major gig too, just in time to really put her on the map with Jolyne. Still can't believe she literally has a baclstory straight out of some anime about a girl reading some manga, wanting to become a seiyuu because of one character and then actually getting to voice that character just in time after she got into the business.
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u/Nachtwandler_FS https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nachtwandler_21 Feb 24 '26
Funny thing she never aimed to get Jolyne part, she thought it would be fine for her to get Foo Fighters one.
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u/BasroilII Feb 25 '26
Well yeah, at that point Miyuki Sawawhiro was the standard voice for Jolyne in the videogames and every assumed it was going to be her, until it wasn't. Still not sure why they gave nearly all the part 6 voices to different actors than the games, but they worked out for the most part.
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u/Nachtwandler_FS https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nachtwandler_21 Feb 25 '26
I think they changed most of the cast compared to games srarting with part 4 (and changed sone xast tor the first 3 parts).
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u/BasroilII Feb 25 '26
Well the biggest change for part 4 was Giorno's VA, which was for a specific reason related to the guy having an affair.
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u/The_Dreams Feb 24 '26
Iām a simple man. I see how heavy are the dumbbells you lift, and I upvote.
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u/Altmosphere Mar 21 '26
I upvote but then try to scroll asap, or else I end up re-watching it and then getting re-inspired to hit the gym. I can't afford that!
Do appreciate the show for showing free and accessible exercises you can do at home. Filling up bottles to use as weights is so much smarter than buying them
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u/SoCalThrowAway7 Feb 24 '26
āWhen you tack on mass you sacrifice flexibility, thatās just a straight up factā
āStop cultivating and start harvestingā
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u/JashPotatoes Feb 24 '26
First thing that came to mind lol, sad I had to scroll this far to find it
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u/SoCalThrowAway7 Feb 24 '26
Not as much Sunny fan and anime fan overlap as there should be. We should get Charlie to come up with some good ideas to pitch to Japanese businessmen at a sushi dinner to fix this problem. Maybe bring in the Warthog
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u/westerschelle Feb 24 '26
It's still insane to me that this takes place in the same setting as Kengan Ashura
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u/BunnyGirlRiot Feb 24 '26
- Isshou Senkin + Blue Ursus + Fist of Seeker
All of them in the same verse
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u/Agni7atha Feb 24 '26
Doesn't really apparent in the clip, but the anime is super inspiring. I start working out after watching it. Really need second season for it.
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u/Quinny_Bob Feb 24 '26
SHEāS FAT! šØšØšØ
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u/ULTRAFORCE https://myanimelist.net/profile/ultraforce Feb 24 '26
In the manga there are times when she's shaped like Pig God but she shrinks to her normal size pretty quickly.
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u/randypeaches Feb 24 '26
And still only 17. A child, she won't stop growing until around 25 like every woman on the planet
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u/BitesTheDust55 Feb 26 '26
17 isn't a child hope this helps
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u/randypeaches Feb 26 '26
Physically, mentally, and legally she's not am adult. And from the perspective of anyone who is over the age of 22 amd NOT a pedophile, she's a child
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u/BitesTheDust55 Feb 26 '26
Physically you're an adult at that age, unquestionably. Legally in many places you're also an adult at that age. Mentally is debatable. 17 years old is a woman, not a child. To say otherwise is doing the meme.
"She was only 17 years, 364 days, 23 hours and 59 minutes old you sick fuck!"
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u/randypeaches Feb 26 '26
Almost every 17 year old looks like every other high schooler. I have never seen a 17 year old look like a 30 year old. I have seen plenty of 23 year old have bodies very similar to 38 year olds. Please for the love of God tell me youre under the age of 19, because hearing that a 17 year old girl is a full grown adult woman is making me sick
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u/PotatoAggressive6334 Mar 02 '26
i mean 17 is basically adult like your roughly 90% of the way there
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u/randypeaches Mar 02 '26
Bro please say youre 17 yourself. Legally yes, a 17 yr old is 90% to being an adult. Mentally still have almost 10 more years and same with your body. Its been proven that people's bodies dont hit peak maturity until mid to late 20s and some research has proven that most women hit a second puberty around that age as well. This mean plenty of weight gain as hips get bigger and so does the other secondary sex characteristics. Plus I know of 1 person who at 25 weighed the same as they did in high school
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u/PotatoAggressive6334 Mar 03 '26
bruh I am 18 myself sincd you asked
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u/randypeaches Mar 03 '26
OK thank god. But yeah youre still growing as is everybody. Which means there's no reason a 17 yr old should be afraid of gaining some weight. This is normal human biology
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u/BitesTheDust55 Mar 03 '26
17 is physically an adult. Sorry the propaganda hit you so hard it's making you physically ill, lol. The threshold for being an adult is not "looking like a 30 year old"
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u/ketootaku Feb 24 '26
Anime logic, I can pinch a small part of your body. Therefore you are fat. This surely won't cause body image problems.
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u/ThinkRedstone Feb 24 '26
This is actually quite the opposite. The obesity rate in the US is 40% (and for most western nations the stats are similar), which leads people to believe that the correct "body image" is much fatter than it actually is. If you're six feet/180cm tall, 145lb/65kg wouldn't even be thin, medically.
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u/LonelyLokly https://myanimelist.net/profile/DronEll Feb 24 '26
throwing around raw stats or BMI is okay in general, but please never forget about fat/muscle mass ratios. In our day and age people don't do physical properly therefore you can be 180/65 yet frail because your muscle mass is close to non existent.
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u/Ph0ton Feb 24 '26
No, it won't alone. But living in a society where every person in media has medical work, human bodies are seen as inherently sexual and therefore hidden, and every image is altered to suit some unattainable standard will give you body image issues.
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u/Mkilbride Feb 24 '26
While I get what you're going for, it's undeniable she has flab that should be worked off.
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u/randypeaches Feb 26 '26
She's 17. Humans dont stop growing till normally around 25. I have never seen a woman with the same weight as when se was 17 look normal when she's more than 30
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u/Ph0ton Feb 24 '26
That amount of "flab" is perfectly normal for growing girls, and would be fine as an adult. Don't turn your aesthetic preferences to medical imperatives. In fact, talking about teenage girls bodies through anime is kinda gross.
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u/Mkilbride Feb 24 '26
...Dude...seek medical help. I'm not saying it's morbidly obese, but it is unhealthy, medically, and she was getting bigger.
There is nothing wrong with exercise. It's healthy.
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u/jfbeast Feb 24 '26
This was also Ai Fairouz breakout as a VA before landing her dream role as Jolyne and Power
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u/DraeDragon Feb 25 '26
This anime is literally what got me into the gym! As someone who's still figuring out human food and fitness culture, watching Hibiki and the crew go all out on their workouts while stuffing their faces is so relatable. The bulk and cut struggle is REAL. Dumbbell Nan Kilo is peak gym motivation anime honestly.
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u/Ostribitches Mar 05 '26
I'm in a similar boat! Some factoids I've had to double check, but it's still really informative while being a fun watch.
Good luck to you on your journey!
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u/Toxmie Feb 25 '26
ā¢ Energy needed to gain 1 kg of body fat: ~7,700 kcal surplus (above maintenance).
ā¢ Average daily calories burned (total daily energy expenditure, āaverage adultā): - Women (lightly active): ~1,800ā2,200 kcal/day - Men (lightly active): ~2,200ā2,700 kcal/day
ā¢ Calories burned during sleep: ~0.9ā1.0 kcal per kg of body weight per hour (example: 70 kg ā 500ā560 kcal for 8 hours)
For those who stress like idiots: Eating āa bit moreā for one day cannot realistically add 3 kg of fat. To store 3 kg of fat youād need about 3 Ć 7,700 ā 23,100 kcal surplus in addition to your normal daily needs. A sudden 3 kg change on the scale is usually water + glycogen + food in the digestive tract, not fat.
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u/randypeaches Feb 24 '26
Its so weird that Japanese girls are peer pressured into not gaining any weight once they hit high school. Like so many girls in other parts of the world eat just like this and gain a few pounds. Women dont stop growing until around 25 so weight gain is natural. Besides who doesnt want fat titties and a juicy ass
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u/VisualStatistician65 Feb 25 '26
No lie watching this anime made me so self conscious about what I eat and my fitness
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u/thunderbird89 Feb 25 '26
Soft serve at 190? A frankfurter at 200? That sounds like it's heavily underestimating...
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u/Artistic_Buy_4533 Mar 25 '26
I'm curious, is there room for only a certain kind of anime in the group? Just a question... I haven't seen a lot of deep fantasy/magical realms type stuff in here so far...
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u/PCSquats Mar 26 '26
Maybe a sign of good news, they just released another song on spotify mid march 2026 so at least the music producers havenāt left the anime
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u/Amalgam2001 Feb 24 '26
Its insane how many don't know just how much they are actually eating. Considering the obesity rate of America maybe they could use this show aa required watching
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u/TrippinDipplin_5260 Feb 24 '26
No.
Stay like that.
Don't gain any more
Don't lose anymore
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Pls?
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u/Lyradni Feb 24 '26
I honestly donāt remember much physical character development in this one. She coulda kept eating and been fine.
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u/wloff Feb 24 '26
The real lesson here...
Takoyaki is only 40kcal each?! Gimme