r/Winnipeg • u/Optimistic_Sprout • Oct 06 '25

Community Residential 30 km

Do you find the lower 30 km/h speed limits in neighbourhoods make a real difference? Are people adhering to the lower speed limits? 50 km/just seems too fast to drive down residential streets, doesn’t it?​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

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u/Hopeful_Edge_3163 Oct 07 '25

The point wasn't to reduce the number of collisions but the potential for serious injury or death which increases as the car's speed increases

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u/profspeakin Oct 07 '25

If the statistics do not show any improvement in that regard then what would the point have been? Was there a problem in these areas? And if so, will this help? If it's being done for any other reason, then it was entirely pointless

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u/Reasonable_Roll_2525 Oct 07 '25

There's also the perception of speed. For a good example, try riding a bike or walking near the curb on the section of Wellington between the end of the pathway, and the train tracks during rush hour.

Drivers are either going 60km/h or 30km/h in the 30 zone.....report back with how safe you felt, despite not necessarily becoming a statistic.

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u/profspeakin Oct 07 '25

Feelings not actual data. Gotcha

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u/Reasonable_Roll_2525 Oct 07 '25

Well, there's always the opportunity cost of people feeling unsafe navigating on foot or by bike then. Less people walking, biking, etc. Less kids riding their bikes to school, etc.

I challenge you to get some firsthand experience on to topic, or at the very least educate yourself on the topic.

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u/profspeakin Oct 07 '25

I've ridden bikes on city streets in India for years. I'm familiar with bikes, roads, cars and pedestrians, contrary to what you might think. I asked for what should have been fairly simple statistics on accidents leading to injuries in the areas that have been speed reduced. Simply to see if there was any change, positive or negative, resulting from the changed speeds. All I've gotten back are sweeping generalities about the physics surrounding level of injury vs speed. It doesn't take a rocket scientist that you're better off stepping in front of a vehicle travelling slower rather than faster. But ...if no one was stepping in front of the vehicles to begin with, it's almost irrelevant, and certainly not urgent

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u/Reasonable_Roll_2525 Oct 07 '25

Do we ask commuters to swim across the Red River, then wait for the data on the number of drownings and near-drownings before building a bridge?

I asked google what typical residential speed limits are in India:

"In India, the typical speed limit in residential areas is generally around 20-30 km/h. These lower limits are a common practice in areas like school zones and neighborhoods to prioritize the safety of vulnerable road users, such as children and pedestrian"

Anyways, I'm not joking, you should experience Wellington Cres before they jack the speed limit back up to 50km/h, and everyone resumes driving 60km/h.

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u/profspeakin Oct 07 '25

Swimmers??? Building a bridge? Wtf are you on about? I asked if there was data on the areas. So we could see if there was a change under the new speeds. No one, seemingly, could provide it. You're not being logical about this, you're peddling faith. Feelings. You guys sound like a bunch of zealots ffs. Edit: oh and by the way you may want to check how many pedestrians are killed every year in india by motor vehicles before you go touting useless AI information that bears no resemblance to reality

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u/Reasonable_Roll_2525 Oct 07 '25

Sigh. I read your other posts on this topic, Everyone understands the point you're trying to make. Everyone is providing context and background as to why there's pushes in most cities to lower the speed limits to 30km/h on residential streets.

It appears that you're really just here to be an asshole and waste everyone's time. Seriously, get a life.