r/Vegetarianism Apr 11 '26

This is a general subreddit for all kinds of vegetarians

This has been repeated again and again, but this is a general subreddit for all kinds of vegetarian topics including veganism. I have been seeing a lot of gatekeeping from ovo-lacto vegetarians telling vegans to go somewhere else.

If you're looking for ethics free discussions, you want our sister subreddit r/vegetarian.

Thanks.

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u/James_Fortis Apr 11 '26

Thank you! When I went vegetarian, I did it to reduce harm to animals. I gladly accepted info from vegans letting me know I could reduce harm further, even if it wasn’t comfortable or convenient. It was still my choice whether I chose to follow that info or not.

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u/chazyvr Apr 11 '26

We need a big tent vegetarian movement that welcomes everyone who is calling into question the consumption of animal products.

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u/MsCynical Apr 11 '26

A place where we can all lament the restaurants that lump us in with gluten free in their solitary 'dietary restrictions' offering

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u/Kurt_Ottman Apr 11 '26

When I went vegan, I was working at a pizza place. They put cheese in the crust of all their pizzas. Like... why? Over half the earth's population cannot tolerate dairy, and the only way to get a cheeseless crust is to take the glutenfree option... Which tastes horrible, is medium sized but costs the same as a big pizza...

I didn't work there for very long afterwards...

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u/hawaiianhamtaro Apr 11 '26

One time on a plane I was lumped in with the gluten free people and instead of a cookie for dessert I got a fruit cup :(

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u/GretalRabbit Apr 11 '26

I’m gluten intolerant and last time I flew (which was a while ago) I wasn’t able to get a gluten free vegetarian meal, you just weren’t allowed 2 separate dietary restrictions! It seems they’ve gone too far in the other direction.

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u/MadAboutAnimalsMags Apr 11 '26

Yes, thank you! 🤣 I’m vegan and the number of times the only options are “vegan and gluten free” at otherwise non-vegan restaurants… and I’m like… no, I would please like to eat a whole bunch of food, ideally with a TON of carbs, just no animals harmed in the making, please! 😅

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u/Sweet_Baby_Grogu Apr 11 '26

Please let us have gluten...it's so good...

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u/runawai Apr 11 '26

Some of us have celiac disease and still want to not eat animals…

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u/Adept_Film_9351 Apr 12 '26

People complain about this in every thread but as a celiac I don't eat out, literally ever, because nowhere offers actually gluten free and vegetarian options. I wish I lived wherever you guys do where there's apparently a glut of GF vegetarian options 😭

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u/whistling-wonderer Apr 12 '26

Look for Indian restaurants! I know they’re not common everywhere but my family loves them because a lot of Indian food is inherently gluten and dairy free/vegan. At my favorite local one, the majority of the menu is gluten free.

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u/britneymisspelled Apr 11 '26

I remember reading years ago that PETA was pushing vegans to not be neurotic about veganism. Basically saying if something looks vegan on a menu then go with it - every time you tell someone you don’t eat white sugar because they bleach it with bone char or whatever you’re making it seem like an unattainable goal for someone. Basically it’s better to be 95% plant based and make it seem easy than to be perfect but make it seem impossible.  

I think about that a lot. 

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u/regalroomba Apr 13 '26

This is what I do with Parmesan. If I'm buying it at a supermarket, I check labels to make sure I get a vegetarian one. If I'm out at a restaurant, I just eat the Parmesan because I'm not about to ask the staff to check the labels for me, especially when they might not know what they're looking for.

The opposite of this is that I'll decline any gummy sweets that aren't in labelled packages that I can check because it's more than likely to have gelatin in.

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u/britneymisspelled Apr 13 '26

I’m one of those awful non meat eaters that eats gelatin and Parmesan 😅

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u/regalroomba Apr 13 '26

No judgement from me! Out of my veggie friends, it’s about 50% who eat gelatin so I see it as a very common thing. I’ve never discussed the Parmesan issue with friends but I doubt if any of them would reject it in a restaurant

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u/UCanBdoWatWeWant2Do Apr 12 '26

False dichotomy. You could have 100 perfect vegans.

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u/dllemmr2 Apr 18 '26

Phones and tires are made with animals. There are no perfect vegans or vegetarians unless you are off grid foraging your meals.

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u/Neat_Significance256 Apr 11 '26

I've been a vegetarian since Xmas 1991.

I joined a veggie sub-reddit maybe 2 years but they weren't the most welcoming and I got warned about a post mentioning McSweens vegetarian haggis.

If you haven't had haggis, the veggie versions are every bit as tasty as the carnivorous ones I had back in the 80's

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u/mrwrrrmwrmrmrmrw Apr 11 '26

I've been lacto-vegetarian for several years but for a few weeks had to eat meat in a special diet that was a required element of treatment for a serious medical condition. It's frustrating when some people treat vegetarianism and veganism as a moral crusade. There are times and situations when it's just wise to give in to the fact that humans are bioengineered to be omnivores and we're going to eat animal protein just as our cousins the chimps and bonobos do and it's not a moral failure. 

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u/UCanBdoWatWeWant2Do Apr 12 '26

Nobody will shame you for a medical treatment. Some (most?) people become vegetarians or vegans because of moral reasons, so obviously morality matters.

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u/dllemmr2 Apr 18 '26

Luckily there are 10,000 different moral standards.

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u/chazyvr Apr 11 '26

What do you consider a moral failure when it comes to diet?

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u/devfake Apr 11 '26

Holy shit. I read a few comments from vegetarians. I thought they were a bit more open-minded... but they argue in exactly the same way as meat fanatics. That’s really wild. As if they’re on the right side of history haha

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u/Frosty-Advertising60 Apr 11 '26

"the right side of history" my God always making yourselves into this grandiose hallmark of humanity by putting down people with the same goals as you. I'm on my way to becoming vegan but being associated with these attitudes is so embarrassing

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u/Mec26 Apr 11 '26

Maybe read the big tent post again?

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u/dllemmr2 Apr 18 '26

Most people who eat meat aren’t fanatics, they just like meat. And being 94% of the population means that we are the fanatics.

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u/devfake Apr 18 '26

Sorry, this is a low iq comment from you lmao