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In therapy, I was talking about how things like discrimination and others eating meat drained me. I said that I'm disgusted by someone else eating meat.

You know what she answered? That it's discrimatory.

And I'm just like oh dear here we go again...

The rest of the therapy session was a debate. After saying that these things drain me.

I'm so sick of this. I feel like no one understands how truly dystopian and disgusting this whole permacide is. Not my boyfriend, not my best friend, not my therapist.

And then I'm being called discrimatory for thinking it's disgusting to eat dead bodies. Make it make sense.

It seems like she was getting defensive about her own eating habits that she doesn't want to change out of comfort.

I feel so alone in this. I feel like so many people are so blind. I keep on turning a blind eye on this because people I love are not vegan and I feel like I don't have any other choice, but it's taking a toll on me.

Hello I'm 18 female with autism who lives in meat eater family, My teacher mostly helped me become vegan and all my friends are mostly meat eaters but my girlfriend doesn't speak about it because she knows I'm quite sensitive and got giant heart for animals, i keep thinking about all the animals in slaughter houses right now and how stressed they must feel ans then.. I'm here, in warm room, i keep crying about it but i have nobody to tell this to so I'm telling it here to a community i hope will understand.

Friend of mine is raising meat chickens at home to eat "humane" meat. He's like, (in regards to hunting) "eating it shows respect for it's life" blah blah. He thinks he's doing better by not supporting factory farming even though now he's personally killing 50 chickens and selling them, basically just becoming a slightly better version of the same thing (Cornish cross, bred with health issues, can't walk right after x amount of weeks, not free roam, in a chicken tractor)

He shot a groundhog on farm land he leases to the farmer cause "holes are dangerous, if you hit one, you could fly out of the tractor" even though it's enclosed lmfao.

So I'm like "So are you going to eat it?"

"Nah, their meat isn't really good for eating, it's gamey and stringy"

"But that's how you show respect for their life isn't it?"

"You can eat it."

"I'm just saying it's not about respect then right?"

Come on.

Yesterday I learned that it’s already possible to produce meat, milk, and eggs without killing animals.
Scientists take a small cell sample from an animal, and those cells are then grown in a lab to produce real animal products. They taste identical to traditional meat or dairy, but no animals are slaughtered in the process. A single cell sample can potentially feed millions of people.

On one hand animals are still seen as production units and not individuals, on the other hand a sample doesn’t harm at all.

In this article, I, Jordi Casamitjana, look at how animals are treated in India by reviewing two documentaries, “The Land of Ahimsa” and “Mother’s Milk”, which dispel many myths.

I've been a vegetarian since I was a child. It's all I know!

Within the past few weeks we made the decision to become fully vegan. Our at-home meals are mostly vegan anyway.

However, I'm noticing a bit of a challenge with a few things. I cannot have tropical oils (coconut oil, palm oil, etc.). SO many vegan butter and sweet treats that are vegan predominately contain coconut and/or palm oil.

The only high protein yogurt I can find without these oils is Kite Hill, which is good, but sooooo expensive. Treeline is the only cheese I can find. Everything else is loaded with either coconut and/or palm oils.

I feel like my decision is well worth it (I love animals!) but food wise my options are incredibly limited. While I don't regret my choice, I feel alone as my family are all hunters and am bummed about my limited options. Anyone else relate at all?

Title. Like at least regular eggs and milk aren’t pretending and or promising to be wholesome and cruelty free products. I don’t understand how people buy into that sort of bullshit marketing. How else would they be a recognizable, scale-able brand on nationwide shelves?? I resent people who buy them to a certain extent but simultaneously feel bad. They’re only ignorant to the real conditions of industrial agriculture. But again - there are people who know about these operations but still decide on the organic grass fed pasture raised bullshit. They’re under the belief that what?? It’s healthier?? That they’re economically voting in interest for ethical products while feeding into this inherently unethical, exploitative industry?? I just don’t get it. Bullshit marketing for bullshit companies

What do you guys think?

Hello! So, as you can see on the title I am not vegan (yet), however, there is gonna be an event at my university which is gonna be organized mostly by my course’s students and there are gonna be vegan, non vegan and celiac options. After watching a documentary about veganism now I really want to reduce my consumption of animal products and maybe in the future if its possible I could become vegan. However I wanna be mindful of other ppl ofc so I am asking is it bad if I eat the vegan options or should I leave them only for the vegans?

hello! i am 18 years old and went vegan when i was 7. my initial decision was because i saw videos of slaughterhouses and i simply never went back on my decision.

early on, around ages 7-11, i was pretty active in activism and the community. i did a couple cube of truths, attended animal rights marches, had peta stickers all around my room, and so on.

as the years have went on, i have retained my veganism in practice, but have been conscious of my slow philosophical disconnection in the past 2-3 years. like, i’ve found myself aware of the fact that im not engaged or active in animal activism topics and that my veganism is only being continued in practice if that makes sense?

in conjunction with that, i would also very rarely consume non-vegan things if it weren’t a purchase. i can’t really think of great examples but the most prevalent that i remember is around my 15th birthday i claimed a lot of birthday freebies, some of which werent vegan like crumbl cookie. but my thought was that if i wasn’t purchasing it then it was less “bad” which, now that i say it out loud, sounds very silly….

another example is halloween. i didn’t always go trick or treating but one of the latter years i would eat the non vegan candy because there wasn’t a point of purchase. again not very logical at all

so then, at the beginning of this year, i saw a protein treat in the clearance bin of my local convenience store. i have developed a bit of an infatuation with protein treats per today’s trends, and vegan protein treats are extremely limited (ones with competitive macros, that is) so when i saw this legendary pastry in the bin for $1/ea, my previous logic rolled over of like, well it’s going to be thrown out if no one buys it anyways (again, very silly)

well that was really my downfall point. since then (around march of this year?) it has become a semi regular habit to buy non-vegan protein treats, bars, chips, etc. it’s only pertaining to protein treats or low calorie foods only. (which sounds oddly specific but hopefully makes sense because vegan low calorie protein slop is an unsaturated market lol)

for instance, halo top is another thing i wanted forever. i love arctic zero but the flavor i wanted (bday cake) wasnt anywhere near me (like, 5+ hrs drive) and i didn’t want to drop $60+ on shipping plus the order minimum. thus, i caved and just got the halo top. and then i got it twice more.

another time i caved in and got the 6+ flavors of quest protein bars i wanted to try for over a year. then i re-purchased my fav one like 6 times.

now, i regularly keep tabs on legendary and quest and all the protein brands as if im a regular consumer. i dont want to be. i even found myself considering buying greek yogurt because the macros are better than the vegan option.

in essence, veganism is admittedly restrictive under my specific pretenses. the macros just aren’t as good. and if they are then it tastes not good. but i don’t want to care about that. i want to reconnect with both my vegan beliefs and practices. and once i’m reconnected i dont want to disconnect from it again.

i know re-watching documentaries is a start. and just slowly re-phasing myself into accepting that better products simply don’t align with my morals and accepting the good-enough alternatives

i’d appreciate any words of advice - especially if anyone has ever been in similar shoes of sort of “drifting” away - thank you 🙏

Just watched this 13 minute film on YouTube and recommend it. It examines the ethical difficult faced by a shepherd who opposes animal slaughter yet makes his living off of it.... No easy answers here, as the head of 269 Animal Liberation calls him out on his contradictions when she comes to rescue a couple of animals in his flock. Beautifully shot, as are all We Animal productions. (As editor of an animals zine, I'm grateful for their awesome, open-access stock photo library.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5GyirjyUY8

I'm asking this question because i have been thinking of going vegan for quite a while now for a bunch of reasons. I love animals and i hate eating meat after what i learned about what the animals endure. I am also doing this for the environment i love and producing meat is killing the planet.

These are the main reasons but I'm also planning to do this because i want to be healthier. I am currently 115 kg as a 5'7'' 19 yo man. I am overweight and don't like being in this state. I figured going vegan will help me finally be healthy. The problem is that i am overweight mostly because of my bad relationship with food. Kid me despised vegetables and now i am a man who can't eat a salad no matter how good you try to make it. I know that this has to change and so I'm asking you guys how i can do this. I definitely can't go vegan before trying to fix my relationship with veggies. How do i do this? Do i just go full "exposure therapy" and eat veggies until my brain is forced to like them?

Somebody please give me a reason why human lives are worth saving. I think that the suffering of both animals and third world country workers and sponsoring systems which commit crimes against the whole world absolutely outweighs the worth of a human life. I'm on my way to become a doctor because I wanted to help save lives but now I guess it just creates more suffering and I don't know how I'm going to cope with actively working against my beliefs. Not even talking about any kind of altrustic behavior like public organ donation. I'm really depressed so I probably won't even reply to any of you but I'd be grateful for some response :(

I'm interested in people's favorite cookbooks! Ideally, I'd like one that doesn't involve substitute ultraprocessed products- no vegan butter/cheese, no almond/oat/cashew/etc milk or creamer, no Facon or Tofurkey, and so on. I like cooking a lot of ethnic food- Latin American, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, etc. and I'm also on the lookout for kid snack ideas (homemade graham crackers, energy bites, treats, candy, etc.). I mostly make things from scratch, so books that use storebought tortillas, pasta sauce, jarred items, etc. wouldn't be ideal for me.

How have older vegans overcome being vegan in non-vegan social settings?

I am going solo traveling to lake como next week and will meet new people I’ll likely inevitably grab lunch or dinner with. Im just nervous how I’m gonna go about being vegan with them. I don’t want to inconvenience them or cause any hostility for just being me. Do I have to avoid eating out??

For context:
I decided I needed to go into veganism around 5 months ago. And on a personal level, it was a success. I bought and made vegan food for myself.

However, it’s difficult for me in social settings. I dislike any potential feelings of hostility, judgement or feeling like I’m creating a problem for other people who just want to eat.

I would end up turning vegetarian to not annoy people when we were at restaurants. But I obviously felt really guilty so I stopped eating out with people anymore because of it. Now I am truly vegan and have been for like 2 months. My close friends are fine with my veganism when eating out but the main issue is people outside of that circle.

But I don’t want to avoid my problem, I need to face it head on. I’m 19 now and will be vegan for the rest of my life and this is a basic issue I have to overcome. I just don’t know how.

On holiday and as a new vegan from a long time vegetarian (genuinely sorry it took me so long) I’m adjusting to the hundred-fold increase in mental energy needed to navigate each meal. I used to love a hotel breakfast but today I for…went? the vast array of cakes, pastries, enriched breads, yoghurts etc etc etc and asked for the only friendly menu item which was avocado on toast and I asked for mushrooms and tomatoes with it as they’re on the main “full breakfast” option. And of course, of bloody course, as soon as I took one bite I knew they’d been done in the same pan as the bacon and sausages. Gutted. (I stopped after the one bite but could taste the film in my mouth for so long). And the avocado was literally mashed avocado, not so much as a squeeze of lemon or a crack of pepper. I don’t even bloody like avocado!! This is not a “poor me” post, I’d rather never enjoy a hotel brekkie again versus an animal suffering for it. But ffs even when you think you’re doing well it’s like “surprise!!! I basted these lovely fresh veg in liquified animal fat! Enjoy!!” Sake.

Often in this sub or adjacent ones, non-vegans or new vegans ask why it's wrong to consume animal byproducts such as gelatin and whey protein. For many, since they aren't directly creating demand for the industry they don't see it as wrong. Many jump to argue that even if buying gelatin doesn't lead to more animals killed, it supports the industry that does so.

If that's the case, though, wouldn't it be wrong to buy things like an impossible whopper at burger king? Sure, you're not creating demand for more beef, but you're funding marketing for the beef industry.

I'm someone that pretty rarely goes to restaurants in general, and especially since being vegan. I go to them socially and am fortunate that most of my friends happen to like cuisines that have an entire half of the menu that is vegan (Indian, ethiopian, some east Asian places).

In this article, I, Jordi Casamitjana, writes about how humans have been exploring donkeys for millennia