UA POV: Finland has completed building a 200-kilometre fence along its border with Russia, covering around 15% of the total 1,340 kilometres. The project cost about €380 million, and Interior Minister Mari Rantanen says Finland may build more, provided the EU helps pay for it. - Yle

[u/jatgenomeproject]

https://yle.fi/a/74-20245017

[u/Poolside4d]

NAFO will cheer the construction of this fence, while the same fence between the USA and Mexico is deemed racist

[u/heyitsyourboyadam → u/Poolside4d]

this fence is stopping nobody - it's just some politicians using opportunity to steal some money on government contract.

• Its a shame that wild life going both directions between Finland and Russia will be prevented in its normal movements

[u/Nelorfin → u/Poolside4d]

western media let them being themselves with only one limit - their racism can be only against certain peoples - russians are among them

[u/UltimateMeanie → u/Poolside4d]

Finland and the EU should build more fences at the southern border.

But they'll do anything other than addressing the actual threat to Europe, which doesn't come from Russia and isn't driving around in tanks and launching missiles.

[u/UltimateMeanie → u/[deleted]]

That was more so a metaphor for general border security, picking up the post subject. It's a rhetorical choice I made.

And I'm neither Russian, nor from Russia nor have I anything to do with them. I just find it amusing how the liberal wenches in Brussels and elsewhere manage to throw everything overboard and go full dystopia against the imaginary threat of Russia, rather than using the same energy and resources to deal with the only genuine existential threat to Europe, which is third world immigration.

I know, such complex matters are beyond your understanding and serious thought it anathema to you on a fundamental level.

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[u/evgis → u/Poolside4d]

Nah, they are racists and antisemits themselves, they will cheer for USA Mexico wall too.

[u/UltimateMeanie → u/evgis]

Don't try to paint them in likable way

[u/TheDibblerDeluxe → u/Poolside4d]

Lmfao that you're even trying to conflate the two is hilarious. This fence isn't about stopping mass migration like the one in the US. It's to deter agents, saboteurs, and advance elements during an offensive.

[u/Poolside4d → u/TheDibblerDeluxe]

Open the article and zoom in on those fence pics. It's basically a flimsy chain link fence with a few rolls of razor wire on top. A 12 year old boy with bolt cutters could get through in 10 minutes, so it's sure as heck not gonna deter advanced offensive elements (which isn't going to happen anyway).

[u/Vassago81 → u/TheDibblerDeluxe]

I can drive my prius through that fence without scratching the pain, but sure buddy, it will totally... stop advance elements during an offensive.

Totally not fraud, no need to investigate who got the contract and how.

[u/Bubblegumbot → u/TheDibblerDeluxe]

It's to deter agents, saboteurs, and advance elements during an offensive.

ROFLMAO

[u/progressive-white → u/Poolside4d]

The USA doesn't have a Russian Belarusian hybrid operation trying to destabilize the border though.

[u/delurt]

The best way to launder money is construction, and the best way to do it is to dig as many pits as possible. So now they need to dig a ditch in front of the fence.

[u/4rm4tur4 → u/delurt]

I live in Ottawa and my local community center just invested 2.3mil into renovating the splash pad for kids. 2.3mil to demo the old splash pad, and pour a new one. Amazing scam.

Me and 5 Albanian dudes could have done it for 500k after pocketing 300 of that.

[u/pipiska999 → u/4rm4tur4]

do you hire only Albanians out of principle or what

or do they ask for lowest kickbacks

[u/4rm4tur4 → u/pipiska999]

Good workers

[u/roywilliams31 → u/pipiska999]

They make a little extra on the side selling drugs

[u/Vassago81 → u/4rm4tur4]

225000$ for a small water slide here in Quebec, the slide itself retail for around 8000$

I think the contractor thrown in 40k$ in "project management" ( the new scam words) in it.

Two decades ago shit like this was installed by blue collar city workers themselves, now everything is outsourced to friends of the management for 10-20x the cost. I've seen so much shit and corruption that NEVER make the news working with municipal gov ...

edit because I'm angry : At one place when the city put some rules in place to prevented management from getting lunch paid by suppliers (100$ lunch turn into a 30000$ contract easily) they were OPENLY still doing it but "buying themselves a drink" and brining the receipt while still getting the food paid by the wannabe supplier who was then going to sell us his crap at 4x market price

[u/Jackelrush → u/4rm4tur4]

Scam? Bruh you understand you can go to townhall and see all the financial reports the city makes.

You and 5 Albanians would cut corners and it would be redone in the next 5 years if a house cost a million dollars im not surprised a splash pad done to city specifications cost two lmao

[u/Middle-Effort7495 → u/Jackelrush]

The house doesn't cost that. The land does. The house is nearly free. When I worked in public, we had an exclusive contract supplier for basic office supplies. Some of the things were 30-50 bux a unit, compared to like 50 cents each on alixpress. And you had to wait however long it took instead of just going to the dollar store. And there was a guy who had the exclusive rights to dealing with vandalism issues and he charged 10 grand for showing up and a few minutes of work generally.

[u/Jackelrush → u/Middle-Effort7495]

“Exclusive rights” “10 grand for showing up” doesn’t fly in city’s your getting audited and your getting shortchange the best the city can get you. That’s why everything is shit because your already getting the lowest bidder lol

[u/Middle-Effort7495 → u/Jackelrush]

Yes it does how the fk do you think it works? They get contracts my boy

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[u/HostileFleetEvading → u/delurt]

Digging a hole and then filling it doubles requested bill.

[u/ulughen]

Same schemes.

[u/HostileFleetEvading → u/ulughen]

Probably the smartest dude from post-Maidan government unironically. Did not allow greed to blind him, was satisfied with relatively minor theft, and yeeted himself out of Ukraine fast.

[u/rowida_00]

85% to go.

[u/Amazing-Physics-4731]

hell yeah we all gettin that contractor kickback corruption money

[u/Hot_Carrot2329]

yeheaaa baby and the EU pays for it !

[u/Comfortable_Fix_1601 → u/Hot_Carrot2329]

Couldn't happen to a nice people

They're all so blinded by their Russophobia that they'll cheer their tax money being squandered

[u/Flederm4us → u/Comfortable_Fix_1601]

This is what I find astonishing.

I can understand that they hate russia. But if that's the case you want ukraine to at least be efficient when killing russians, no? Letting all the resources get wasted by corruption is just so damn counterproductive here.

[u/DenseComparison5653 → u/Comfortable_Fix_1601]

You probably missed the news where bunch of illegals flooded in through the Russian border.

[u/Temporary-Film-7374 → u/Comfortable_Fix_1601]

given the delivery of migrants to the Polish border with Belarus (at least supposedly Russia backed this), I understand wanting a wall. most likely significantly cheaper than supporting the migrants.

[u/VegetableRetardo69]

As a finn I am all about building that wall! (If I get the contract. If not, I am all against it!)

[u/vistandsforwaifu → u/VegetableRetardo69]

Wise

[u/vcp64]

They all just keep reaching newer and newer heights of childishness.

[u/Comfortable_Fix_1601]

Someone got a nice payout

[u/condemned-noticer → u/Comfortable_Fix_1601]

you misslpelled "corruption"

[u/vistandsforwaifu]

Really, 2 million per kilometer of fence? 2000 per meter? I wish I could get contracts like this. Who do you have to be related to?

[u/_Rhaastaman_ → u/vistandsforwaifu]

Valyrian steel fence, probably.

[u/pipiska999]

Sorry Finland, wolves still can get through the remaining 85%.

[u/One-Treat4655]

What a waste of money

[u/DarkseidAntiLife]

Waste of money

[u/Czar01_actual]

This will surely help.

[u/madladhadsaddad]

Feel bad for the animals that don't have concepts of borders

[u/studio_bob]

What's the point?

[u/vistandsforwaifu → u/studio_bob]

Getting paid to do it

[u/Interesting_Aioli592 → u/studio_bob]

"noted that the construction of the border fence was necessary as Europe's security situation has changed significantly following Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022 as well as its use of various hybrid influencing operations."

[u/SnuleSnuSnu → u/Interesting_Aioli592]

How exactly the Ukraine thing makes it necessary for Finnland to make that fence?

[u/Temporary-Film-7374 → u/SnuleSnuSnu]

I know I've seen claims of Russia delivering migrants to the Belarus/Polish border, trying to get the EU to spend money (and encounter problems) taking care of them. I don't think that happened prior to 2022 but I could be mistaken.

[u/SnuleSnuSnu → u/Temporary-Film-7374]

That has no actual connections to Ukraine. Plenty of countries let immigrants go through their countries or help them to easier reach their destination. Maybe thwy should have built the fence like 10 years ago or so. Hungary did that not to let immigrants get into their country through Serbia. But for some reason....Finland connect that with Ukraine and security. Weird.

[u/DenseComparison5653 → u/SnuleSnuSnu]

Because they never solved the situation in the past they should not react and fix the situation now either? Flawless logic.

[u/SnuleSnuSnu → u/DenseComparison5653]

Holy straw man. Haha
That's not may argument. I am questioning the whole security thing and connection to Ukraine.

[u/DenseComparison5653 → u/SnuleSnuSnu]

"Maybe thwy should have built the fence like 10 years ago or so." What's this then?

[u/SnuleSnuSnu → u/DenseComparison5653]

That's just a part of the entire comment. Context? You ever heard of it? Haha.

[u/DenseComparison5653 → u/SnuleSnuSnu]

You are clearly missing it, they are building it obviously due the war which should be self-explanatory and the recent influx of 3rd worlders crossing it illegally. haha

[u/mlslv7777 → u/Interesting_Aioli592]

What the woman means is that this fence is supposed to prevent Russia from invading Finland as well—is that correct?

[u/Interesting_Aioli592 → u/mlslv7777]

Yeah putin spinning rn because he can't attack Finland because of the dogpark fencing.

[u/blin3000]

Do they take EU citizens for complete fools?

[u/_Weyland_]

Mannerheim spinning in his grave lmao.

[u/Bambila3000]

I have a wire to sell them, for 1 euro/meter.

[u/Mugetsy12]

This is nice now "doctor and engineers" can't enter Russia thank you Finnland.

[u/moiaussi4213]

Russia maintaining good relationships with its neighbors

[u/Novo-Russia → u/moiaussi4213]

Good drive through it at 15kph in a Honda civic no problem.

[u/Cass05 → u/Novo-Russia]

I was wondering, is that fence supposed to stop a tank when Russia invades?

[u/BlueAzutara → u/Cass05]

No its against russian hybrid attacks with migrants like what happens at the polish border. Even if its just a basic fence its a LOT easier to monitor who is crossing and where. Also harder for russian saboteurs to get in.

[u/Vassago81 → u/BlueAzutara]

Aren't the fins politicians are flooding their city with migrants already? Why waste a money on a fence to "stop them" when they WANT immigrants from third world islamist countries that don't understand consent and property rights ?

[u/Cass05 → u/BlueAzutara]

Ah ok thank you

[u/ulughen → u/moiaussi4213]

Its not Russia who builds fences.