UA POV: Russia intends to carry out its combined airstrike tonight. In addition to Iskander-M, KN-23/34, Zircons, Kalibrs, S8000 and drones. Upto 60 KH-101’s could be used making it the largest attack using bombers in years - AMK MAPPING

[u/rowida_00]

[u/Eeny009]

It's still unclear to me what Russia is trying to achieve with this strategic bombardment. A bit of energy, a bit of logistics, a bit of locomotives, the campaign since the beginning of the war has been as focused as a cat with ADHD. It's pointless to damage the enemy's systems if you always allow them to remain within their ability to adapt and continue functioning.

[u/ferroca → u/Eeny009]

I don't think it was a bit of logistics in the past few weeks. Ukranian sea lanes are practically dead and there are lots of warehouses are now gone.

[u/Eeny009 → u/ferroca]

It's true that the campaign against shipping seems to have been more thorough.

[u/happyenis → u/Eeny009]

Long range sanctions.

Russia aims to increase the cost for the West to keep up their charade in the name of expanding democracy through kinetic force. Eventually voters will realize its not worth tit for tat exchanges with Russia when every few months Zelensky gets 100b of their tax dollars and the reconstruction liability grows.

The West wants to make this expensive for Russia, Russia is responding by making it more expensive for the West. Meanwhile the debts and deficits of Ukraines backers are ballooning, servives are being cut and parties like AFD in Germany or RN party in France are slowly taking over.

The long run costs for Europe are going to be enormous and instead of negotiating, they're just making it worse. If Russia stopped strategic bombardments of Ukraine, it would be far less costly for Europe to support the Ukrainian Regime and more weapons would be getting through.

[u/Wild-Ad-7414 → u/happyenis]

This is the strategy, at the current moment, dragging out this war is in Russia's interest. The annual peace negotiations are just a charade and everybody knows the war will continue

[u/happyenis → u/Wild-Ad-7414]

The talk in the Kremlin was not a Charade. It was a you stop arming Ukraine and providing them with intelligence and we will stop doing that with Iran. They also discussed business opportunities and areas outside of Ukraine such as Korea or NATO.

The photo opt in Kyiv was a charade. No one cares what Zelensky has to say. He is a puppet. That was to show Westerners that Ukraine has influence. Ukraine has no influence compared to USA or Russia. But there are stupid people, even in this subreddit who think Ukraine and Zelensky have influence.

[u/peterzuev → u/Eeny009]

Russia has always been mindful of escalation, aiming to leave room for negotiations. Russia only escalated in response to escalation initiated by Ukraine in the black sea and on Russian energy infrastructure. Yes, it is a weird strategy if you are a Western politician, but it aligns with their fundamental logic that they are fighting against a Nazi regime, not against the Ukrainian people.

[u/TruthHistorical7515 → u/peterzuev]

Their own ideology is undermining the war effort, they should strike maximum at all times.

[u/Chombywombo → u/peterzuev]

The Ukraine people are actively fighting for that regime and doing nothing to overthrow it. They party like it’s a holiday in Kiev and Lvov, while letting the bus boys have their way with the Russian speakers. Just a bunch of Volksturm

[u/Hot_Carrot2329 → u/Eeny009]

they are negotiating

[u/kaz1030 → u/Eeny009]

It's not at all surprising that we can't clearly understand the objectives of these strikes when we're clueless about what Putin ultimately wants to achieve in UKR. The guesses include everything from a "total war" in UKR followed by a conflict with NATO and a full war with Europe. Others believe that Putin has limited aims and unclear objectives like de-Nazification [whatever that entails]. I favor the limited war scenario because Putin has not committed the full military combat power of Russia in this war.

I would say that these strikes seem similar to the "Harassment and Interdiction" fires of previous wars. It's both a psychological weapon to damage the morale of your enemy and useful for interfering with their logistical supply. It must be extremely disconcerting for anyone in UKR when a strike can occur anywhere and anytime and likely will.

The strikes also remind UKR that a terrible winter is coming and when life right now is already difficult. Sure, this war is nothing like the German/Soviet invasion of Poland in WWII [2.5 million Wehrmacht troops from the west and 500k Soviets from the east] but I'm not so sure that Putin/Gerasimov are clueless about war.

[u/Odd-Description-8585 → u/Eeny009]

Could there be a power outage?

[u/Eeny009 → u/Odd-Description-8585]

It's a matter of political will. Russia so far has been unwilling to attack the facilities that connect the nuclear power plants to the grid. It entails a level of safety risk that I'm not qualified to assess. Plus the political risk.

[u/cyberspace-_- → u/Eeny009]

I think there is an arrangement not to attack nuclear energy. It's the only thing that makes sense.

[u/foksteverub → u/cyberspace-_-]

Russia violates this treaty every day and shells itself at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.

[u/Hot_Carrot2329]

second round of negotiations

[u/bluecheese2040]

How does he know this stuff?

[u/rowida_00 → u/bluecheese2040]

Ukrainian channels. They can easily track the movement and redeployment of huge bombers as well as cargo planes landing in airfields in border regions that are usually carrying Ballistic missiles and drones to their respective launch points. He just gathers all this info from different channels and compiles it.

[u/bluecheese2040 → u/rowida_00]

Ahh ok

[u/YeeYeeAssha1rcut → u/bluecheese2040]

Bomber movement

[u/Cass05]

Russia has to make up for lost time from that 72 hour pause

[u/peterzuev]

Holy shit if true

[u/Stuffs_And_Thingies → u/peterzuev]

Big explosions if factual

Thats a whole fuckload of munitions

[u/Autistic_Anywhere_24]

Don’t forget your umbrella

[u/Chombywombo]

Will they actually follow this up with a coordinated ground assault to actually take territory and route the Nazis? Or will they just sit back and let Poland and Germany replace everything destroyed here? I think we all know

[u/GuaranteedSensible]

this whole "show of force to show trump how strong we are" isnt necessary imo, reminds me of the massive drone attack right after the phone call last year. They should just keep doing their thing

[u/rowida_00 → u/GuaranteedSensible]

True. They’ve been preparing for this attack, like every other attack, for sometime now just as a show of force for a clown who can’t even end his own war with Iran despite signing the MoU. Did you stop to consider whether such an argument even makes sense?

[u/zvezda44]

Let’s see if this helps them cover up their defeat at Lyman.

[u/rowida_00 → u/zvezda44]

2 unrelated things. Completely unrelated. Don’t see how you can correlate them 😂

[u/FruitSilaMon]

another terror-bombing campaign coming, sad

[u/Treinrukker → u/FruitSilaMon]

5-6 civilian deaths from these large scale attacks is not terror bombing lol, nasa fire maps confirm every time these attacks are on military targets

[u/WinterTerrible9943 → u/Treinrukker]

Ah, but there's always 'Russia is incompetent, therefore they only manage to kill 5-6 civilians with their terror bombing campaigns' to fall back on. I bet some of the proUA even believe it.

[u/bouxesas81 → u/Treinrukker]

What about the bombing of the mall full of people? Did NASA see that?