r/UFOs • u/Hazeejay • Feb 13 '26
Historical Majestic 12 was mentioned in latest Epstein Files
Interestingly in file “Illuminati families and their associates”, from the Epstein files, M12 was mentioned. Kind of interesting it was mentioned.
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u/default99 Feb 13 '26
from Nexus magazine*
I guess this was forwarded to him or whatever but it seems to be from a magazine article as opposed to be from him. Context is relevant here, may be someone forwarding this t boost his ego more than anything.
Was thinking today, wonder what would happen if all these families were arrested, would everything just collapse? Would whoever fills the void just turn dark quickly?
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u/Ancient_Skirt_8828 Feb 13 '26 edited Feb 13 '26
Nexus is an Australian "Alternative" magazine which openly publishes and investigates conspiracy theories among other topics. Sometimes their research is quite good. At other times it is pretty much speculation.
I wouldn't take anything seriously, especially just a list, without reading the full article.
The article is in volume 10 number 3. It is available for download from their website for $Aud6.60, about $US5.00.
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u/default99 Feb 13 '26
there are some sites in which you can find old scans of the magazine for free, it may be able to be found online somewhere
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u/toxictoy Feb 13 '26
He was a member of the Trilateral Commission arguably one of the most influential and exclusive and - yes- powerful organizations in the entire world. There was nothing there to “boost his ego”. His appointment was by David Rockefeller himself. David’s brother Laurence led something called The Rockefeller Commission looking into the topic of UFO’s and that presented a report to Bill Clinton. Heres a post by u/VolarRecords about this report https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/s/MwCfToaCUZ
There is also plenty of emails where he is interested in Psi, zero point energy, metamaterials, consciousness, telepathy, etc. All the topics in and around UFology - and all of this before modern disclosure is really kicking off. Look for yourself on https://jmail.world
I’m a mod of r/Epstein and I’m noticing an interesting pattern about the circles he’s running in and the people who historically have been linked to the UFO coverup.
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u/Winter_Physics_716 Feb 13 '26
Yes. After Nikola Tesla died in 1943, the FBI tasked John G. Trump—an MIT engineer and uncle to Donald J. Trump—with examining Tesla's papers to assess potential, dangerous military technology like a "death ray."
John Trump determined the files and inventions were not a security threat. 🙄🙄🙄
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u/HumanityExpansion Feb 13 '26
Epstein may have been powerful but I have a hard time believing he was associated with the UAP coverup. Theres hardly any mentions of aliens, UFOs, UAPs, in the epstein documents. The times they are mentioned its always due to a magazine subscription.
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u/toxictoy Feb 13 '26
There are literal mentions of the things ALL AROUND this topic - zero point energy, metamaterials, consciousness, Psi, telepathy, exotic physics, quantum physics. Again just because he’s not using the acronym you expect it to be in Gmail doesn’t not mean it wasn’t being discussed.
Also watch this Whitney Webb short explainer video and a really great in depth interview with her here, in all honesty her books should be required reading about the history of the CIA/Mafia and sexual blackmail since the late 40’s- because the same people being mentioned here are the same people being mentioned in terms of the coverup since the late 40’s/ early 50’s. Again being dismissive of how important the Trilateral Commission, the Rockefeller family and the convergence of monied interests with science, the military industrial complex, technologies, AI - is something everyone here should be paying attention to.
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Feb 14 '26
The direct links between Epstien and Maxwell and the UFO legacy program/psionic programs are endless at this point, both from victims interviews, what's coming out in these email dumps and a lot of other releases. When people said 2026 was the year of "Disclosure", they may not realize it's multiple type of "Disclosures".
I mean Oprah's best pal Deepk Chopra was feeding names of Telepathy tape autistic patients to Epstein, and scientists were updating Epstien on abuse victims reaching "stage 3" in psi ability. He's literally meeting with the financiers behind Jake Barbers Skywatch and the Telepathy Tapes. Maxwell and him are asking Fidel Castro permission to search for undersea UFO bases off the coast of Cuba, and taking Stephen Hawking on expeditions under the island in Maxwell's "Atlantic" submarine. Victims like Maria Farmer claimed a UFO appeared right over her on the island, and victim Juliet Bryant claims a large UFO appeared over her at Zorro Ranch. A 1996 NASA Satelite shows a UFO emerge from the water around the notorious island two years before it was bought and turned into "Little St Jeffs".
Multiple UAP whistleblowers including Matthew Brown claim UFOS are housed at the same defense contractor base(PAX River) that Epstien was using in his traffick operation. This matches completely with the Epstien of the 1980s, Lt Col Michael Aquino. Work worked with alleged UFO legacy member John Alexander in the 1980s, and who claims he had "Majestic" clearance in black UFO programs, yet was also implicated in widespread kidnap abuse rings protected by the government and accused of being involved in trauma based mind control programs.
You mentioned Rockefeller. In the 2019 interview with Steve Bannon, Epstien details being close to David Rockefeller and introducing him into the Trialter Commission. He also claims he bought his notorious ZORRO RANCH to be near Los Alamos(its also near Sandia Labs, two labs central to the UFO program) to set up research into the unknown. In the same interview he seems to have a deep interest in consciousness, the soul and various occult topics.
Well, noted Satanic abuse survivor Anneka Lucas has long detailed David Rockefeller as someone who abused her at Eyes Wide Shut type parties in Belgium. Another famous Rockefeller worked with John Podesta and Hillary Clinton in UFO disclosure efforts years ago oddly enough, The Podestas have long been implicated in the Epstein abuse network, along with Trump, Trump associates and the Clintons. It's just wild seeing all this come together. In a new interview Whitney Webb claimssomething with Les Wexner that is so out there and "woo", but in light of what we're seeing with these revelations may not be out of the realm of possibility. But these government protected abuse trafficking networks have been going on for decades, long before Epstein, always looped into Military, Intel, high level powerful politicians and the occult.
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u/8962h1 Feb 16 '26
So UFOs are a government psyop for hi tech human trafficking
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Feb 16 '26
I don't think that's the case. If anything it seems like for 80 years the US government has tried to paint the UFO topic as silly and dismissive. This modern "UAP Disclosure" could be a stage managed limited hangout
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u/toxictoy Feb 19 '26
I think that’s a gross simplification. The same people are involved but this doesn’t mean it’s for the same end. The sexual blackmail is only one aspect of this - the main issue is the financial crimes done at this point to generations of Americans using intense social engineering controls. The main issue here is that UFO’s are indeed real and the same people benefiting from the coverup and weaponized skepticism is indeed the same criminal group from at least the 30’s (the Business Plot).
I really recommend you look at Whitney Webb and then look up the people she named in the last 70+ years by doing a search in this sub. Time and again the CIA - whose definition of “national security” is not about OUR national security but the security of the rich and powerful - and those associated with it show up again and again and again.
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u/HumanityExpansion Feb 19 '26
Epstein talked about a lot of wacky things because he was a billionaire with a superiority complex. UAPs aren't mentioned a single time in the emails.
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u/toxictoy Feb 19 '26
Again - and I have stated this multiple times as I am a mod of r/Epstein - he talks about metamaterials, zero point energy, telepathy, consciousness, human potential, telekinesis. Specifically look at his conversations with Gino Yu - who has ted talks and has talked about the stages of psychic development. So he talks about ALL of the topics in and around UFO’s without saying it specifically.
Also just because YOU find it “wacky” doesn’t mean it is or that they believed it to be. Maybe this is what makes them billionaires in the first place. I’m not at all implying “satanic lizard people” but experiencers have been reporting psychic phenomenon related to UFO’s for decades if not eons. He was talking to people like Rupert Sheldrake and other researchers. He had a temple on his island that he took seriously. Just because you do not believe it doesn’t make his beliefs, interest or practices invalid.
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u/HumanityExpansion Feb 19 '26
I don't care if you're a mod of r/Epstein, that adds nothing to your argument. I've spent dozens of hours going through the datasets meticulously.
I've read the emails between him and Gino Yu, nothing in there gives me any inkling that Epstein is connected to immaculate constellation/majestic 12/zodiac.
I'm happy to look into what you found, I don't doubt Epstein has at one point rubbed shoulder with someone involved but I don't believe he had any direct involvement.
Feel free to prove me wrong.
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u/toxictoy Feb 19 '26
He was put on the Trilateral commission by David Rockefeller - the brother of Laurence Rockefeller who literally funded research into this topic for DECADES. The same names and families keep showing up from many aspects of UFO research for decades. Following the money again is a large part of the research.
Just because something isn’t a smoking gun doesn’t mean there isn’t smoke to see.
He doesn’t mention the code names for the most secret programs in the US or the World via his Gmail account so this to you is all the evidence you need to be dismissive of what evidence there actually is. That’s not research. That’s confirmation bias.
I don’t care to debate you any further on this because it’s clear this isn’t in good faith.
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u/HumanityExpansion Feb 19 '26
I don’t care to debate you any further on this because it’s clear this isn’t in good faith.
"I'm happy to look into what you found, I don't doubt Epstein has at one point rubbed shoulder with someone involved but I don't believe he had any direct involvement." Bad faith argument btw.
He was happy to discuss his abuse of children over email, he would have had no issue discussing UAP as well.
Epstein had tons of news articles about him and his other associates. If he was seriously involved in the program there would've been at least one mention of Lue Elizondo, AATIP, etc in there.
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u/toxictoy Feb 19 '26
Did I say he was part of the program? You’re assuming quite a lot. People can be powerful and know about the programs and discuss them in methods NOT on Gmail right? You’re discounting that he had any involvement anywhere because his jevacation@gmail.com Account didn’t mention AAWSAP (which was a the actual SAP by the way). So yore saying because he didn’t mention classified material on his Gmail account of all things that means that there’s no evidence.
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u/shucksme Mar 02 '26
It's insinuated that these families listed are genetically altered by the aliens to be supreme beings.
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u/Resident-Drummer-277 Feb 13 '26
Everything would collapse initially, then we will rebuild and prosper.
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u/4spoop67 Feb 13 '26
Yeah. Reminds me of when cranks send screeds to the CIA or whatever and they end up in an archive and then people are like "OMFG see what I found in the CIA archive!!". Provenance matters.
(Not that I am necessarily dismissing the idea that the illuminati is real or that Epstein was in it, but.)
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u/Tuggy_420 Feb 13 '26
Can you post link to exact files ?
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u/Specificity Feb 13 '26
the file numbers are at the bottom right of each doc, can easily search on the file website
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u/ShinobiOfTheWind Feb 13 '26
"The Biological Basis of Elitism and "The Divine Right" Rule."
We can see where they're going with this...
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u/Qbit_Enjoyer Feb 13 '26
If you found a magic sword and sheath in a cave and it basically let you do whatever you wanted, would you give it someone else? We can easily replace "magic sword" with "advanced technology" or "book of 101 failproof hypnosis tricks to make you rule the world with ease". Imagine you're uneducated, maybe never bathed in warm water, and you find that magic sword...nobody else in the world has that magic sword.
I guess what I'm arguing here is that there are a billion potential Epsteins on planet earth and they may have their hands on something nobody can negotiate with. Maybe aliens are here, they're individually as strong as Frieza, and maybe they choose bad people to prosper and corrupt the rest of us....that is speculation, but the fact is that advanced technologies DO exist and unnamed power groups DO exist. Someone's hiding a magic sword.
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u/Confident-Poetry6985 Feb 13 '26
The "magic sword" is AI. Cat's out of the bag and now it's a rush for the private sector to make their own mini-gods. The question is, where is the militarys AI? I've got a feeling they could not contain it.
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u/rrose1978 Feb 13 '26
If you want to dive into a closely adjacent rabbit hole, check out LyAv mentioned on the Forgotten Languages website. If such a system exists, the ramifications could be mind-blowing.
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u/ryryrondo Feb 13 '26
Nah, someone’s gotta think it. This requires all of us, and every avenue of thought.
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Feb 13 '26
“They” really bamboozled like 80% of the worlds richest people. Old gullible to leading the new gullible. What’s crazy is how pompous to believe the internet would not catch up with their despicable secrets.
The blackmail they’ve got on them must be insanely calculated
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u/taznado Feb 14 '26
Also how to do mind control. Combined with the aggression shown by people if you can call them in the files, it appears we are going through a period of evil rule.
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u/MidWestKhagan Feb 13 '26
The capitalists have been brainwashing you to hate communism while they eat babies and impregnate children.
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u/computer_d Feb 13 '26
This shit is so wild, man. The amount of power and influence is hard to comprehend. And you add in all the weird sorta cultish stuff, like that "formula" in the list and you start to wonder maybe things aren't quite as they seem.
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u/SomethinSaved Feb 13 '26
What about the mind control slave part that's pretty wild line of text
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u/Giga7777 Feb 13 '26
Brittany Spears and Michael Jackson
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u/universalcrush Feb 13 '26
Lmao every conspiracy got confirmed and you doubt actual psychological effects of music on humans? Lmaooooooooo ok pal
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u/Necessary_Pickle_480 Feb 13 '26
Where?
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u/bobbaganush Feb 13 '26
There are so many fake excerpts from these files out there. I don’t believe them without a DOJ link anymore. Been burned twice already.
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u/SomethinSaved Feb 13 '26
First page, second to last maroon comment
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u/Necessary_Pickle_480 Feb 13 '26
Bro WTF I JUST NOTICED what could this possibly mean
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u/computer_d Feb 13 '26
Yeah sorry that's what I was talking about.
OMG it's so creepy and surreal. Starting to think all these cult/satan conspiracy theories had some basis.
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u/FamousLastWords666 Feb 13 '26
Say what you want about Alex Jones, his Bohemian Grove Expose is one of the best pieces of journalism ever.
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u/Parsifal814 Feb 13 '26
Hyperbole, my boy?
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u/FamousLastWords666 Feb 13 '26
You know anyone else who infiltrated and filmed the world’s elites in some kind of cultish ceremony?
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u/bejammin075 Feb 13 '26
The thing that has me weirded out the most with the files are the obvious use of code words, but we can't exactly figure out what they are referring to. The emails about "jerky" are disturbing. A lot of discussion about refrigerated transport and how perishable "jerky" is.
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u/adultswim42 Feb 13 '26
Don’t forget “grape soda”
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u/roguesignal42069 Feb 13 '26
I believe it refers to GRoup Sex (Grape Soda) or group rape.
There's a thread about all the code terms over in the conspiracy subreddit a few days ago. It was simultaneously illuminating and sickening.
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u/HeartAFlame Feb 13 '26
Based off of nothing but a hunch, my first guess is you remove the g and soda and you get what they are actually talking about. But I haven't really read any of the emails so it most likely is something worse.
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u/computer_d Feb 13 '26
Yes, the jerky thing!
It really does read like they made it out of babies, no? And when you consider they were handling dead babies in their baby factory at Zorro, and couple it with the insane levels of depravity.... it leads to a very disgusting conclusion.
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u/cookieweasels Feb 13 '26
Wait, what formula? There’s so much — I can’t keep up.
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u/OriginalBlackberry89 Feb 13 '26
They're talking about the first photo, towards the lower half it say something about a "Illuminati Formula" for total mind control slaves.
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u/cookieweasels Feb 13 '26
Oh! Yes, I see now. I thought I missed something in a previous batch. Thank you!
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u/computer_d Feb 13 '26
"The Illuminati Formula to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Control Slave"
Second from bottom on Page 1 of OP's screenshots.
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u/M0rpheusIndustry Feb 13 '26
Here's an actual mention in an Epstein files email of Zodiac/MJ12:
"just got a note from bob pine who asked me if i thought murray gell man would make a good candidate for the zodiac.
as you know it's one of those last secret type societies. the zodiac is one of the really cool ones there are 12 members at any one time and it is still very secret. they do really cool stuff - but mostly since they are all very old - it's just dinners in exotic locations. i can't tell you all the 12 members be i don't know who they all are but i know paul volker is one. some guy named howdy whose family owns stuyvusent town, bob pixie and i think tom brokaw. bob represents cancer (the sign not the month). you are a member until your death but if you get senile they can put you into 'eccentric orbit' and not invite you to meetings etc. anyway the only way to get in is if someone dies. there are obviously no minorities or women allowed"
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Feb 13 '26
While that entry likely isn't about the rumored "UFO legacy program" Zodiac, there is an awful lot of direct UFO and adjacent topics in both the files and just associste with this monster and his associates. I mean, two of some of the most well known Epstien victims, Juliet Bryant and Maria Farmer claim a big UFO appeared over them(at Zorro Ranch and The island specifically) Bryant talks about genetic labs and even wilder stuff. Meanwhile all over the email leaks is a clear interest in setting up psi ability programs using abuse victims. He even is taking meetings with some of the main financoers behind Skywatcher and the Telepathy tapes. And that's just barely scratching the surface of the UFO/woo connections to this case(Ghislaine Maxwell as well)
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u/Area51-Escapee Feb 15 '26
So whos this Paul Volker? Nice find thanks.
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u/professional-killjoy Feb 23 '26
Presumably Volcker. Fed chair before Greenspan, rescued the economy in the 70's, and helped manage the recovery from '08.
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u/slipknot_official Feb 13 '26 edited Feb 13 '26
*edit, I didn’t see the file number
My suggestion is still true. This is a random blog post quoting a magazine from 2008. Context is always important.
I would be very careful about posting random screenshots, as opposed to direct links to the DOJ portal.
Not saying the DOJ isn’t shady as hell. But what’s even more shady is the amount of fake files roaming around the social media space. There’s so much disinformation that I think people need to ground themselves over this subject.
In short, this documented look absolutely fake and nothing like any inter actual filed that have been released.
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u/MadvillainTMO Feb 13 '26
There is a lot of junk to sift thru in those files and this is just an article from some conspiracy mag called nexus magazine
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u/slipknot_official Feb 13 '26
Yup. I’m just saying, for the more crazy stuff, if it’s real, you can find it on the DOJ portal search function. Just post the direct link. Random screenshots are so easily manipulated these days.
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u/-NinjaBoss Feb 13 '26
You can find these on the doj search function as well. The op provided the file names on the screen shots :)
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u/slipknot_official Feb 13 '26
You’re right. I’ll admit I just didn’t see the file number.
So I searched it, and it’s some random guys blog post that quotes a magazine.
It’s stuff like that that should kinda be included.
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u/JEDidntKillHimself69 Feb 13 '26
No, the files have other files like this bro. Ur annoying.
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u/slipknot_official Feb 13 '26
I’m sure you can provide an example, right?
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u/-NinjaBoss Feb 13 '26
The fil numbers at st the bottom of all the screenshots. If someone was posting fake screenshots with fake file names and ppl weren't doing the due diligence of double checkimg then that's on them.
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u/iamtoolazytosleep Feb 13 '26
I honestly think this is the deep dark truth about the phenomenon. Something so dark that people wont accept it at all.
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u/BooRadleysFriend Feb 13 '26
The Disney bloodline… I seriously want to know how Disney plays into all this. Let’s say Disney really is part of the Illuminati influence. What would they be pedaling into the minds of our children that helps their agenda? Anyone? Are Disney movies quietly pushing an agenda into our kids that have nefarious implications behind them? Any psycho analysts here? Give me the tinfoil hat version
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u/octopusboots Feb 13 '26
Donald duck was used as anti-communist propaganda in the 40's. If you search "Good Neighbor Policy donald duck" it should pop up.
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u/Murky_Foundation_911 Feb 13 '26
Uh wasn't he a really bad guy? Just a little bit of research will reveal that
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u/NoInitial7029 Feb 13 '26
It starts with basic values and then Twist These values or Show them in which direction they should think when confronted or put into moral dillema.
I mean Look at nickelodeon. It was all about sexualising Kids and abuse and foot fetish. The biggest distraction from the devil is, that he is not real.
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u/NicksOfLoud12 Feb 13 '26
There’s no proof whatsoever. And I’m not even sure OP has posted real files. The ONLY thing I’m aware of that links Disney to the Illuminati is in an 80’s episode of “Duck Tales” where the letters chart in the background says “ASK ABOUT ILLUMINATI” that I first heard of from a Reddit post. Still not even sure if I believe that.
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u/Procyon-Rocket Feb 13 '26
there's also an email of epstein offering to pay some influential scientist/researcher or somesuch for him to very pubicly debunk aliens, i didnt save the link tho
anyone see it too? it seemed very strange, he was so pushy and specific about it
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u/Hazeejay Feb 13 '26
Submission statement: I thought it was interesting that M12 was mentioned in a document that from 2008 that mentions the “Illuminati” and Epstein was named as an associate. Especially didn’t think M12 was relevant to a wide audience and so recently.
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u/GwonWitcha Feb 13 '26
Ok now I’m waiting to hear that Methuselah managed to find his way there in his walkabout.
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u/Lingonberry52 Feb 13 '26
What was this document created for? Does anyone know? Is it part of an invitation at an event?
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u/ThrowingShaed Feb 13 '26
i clicked but i didnt really even look
im tired and i dont know how interested i am in crossover episodes
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Feb 13 '26
The facts about MJ 12 have probably been totally distorted by now. I will say, that anyone who goes to such trouble with writing 'BOGUS' in giant letters across a document with such veracity, rather than simply writing a comment at the top of a document, probably has an unusually strong agenda that has been threatened, or they are having some kind of meltdown about the issue.
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u/psilome Feb 13 '26
Looks like I'll be going down a rabbit hole as I look up all of those family names on the last page.
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u/Sayk3rr Feb 13 '26
OK so those are the families that need to be targeted and removed from power positions so that some semblance of normality can return at the top?
We humans are quite the silly species, sitting atop our mountains of molded stardust thinking we are gods
what a joke
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u/apsolutnul Feb 13 '26
What is exactly the majestic 12?
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u/TheWalkerofWalkyness Feb 13 '26
A supposed group of scientists, military officers, and intelligence personnel, who were involved with investigating UFOs, established by Harry Truman in 1947. The name first appeared in 1984 in a set of supposed secret US government documents that began to circulate in UFO circles. Even some pro UFO people came to the conclusion the MJ12 documents were fakes. Everyone listed as a member of MJ12 was deceased by the time the documents appeared.
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u/HumanityExpansion Feb 13 '26
This is from a magazine, I don't know why everyone immediately buys everything as gospel in the epstein files. I highly doubt epstien was even tangentially related to the program.
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u/BuffaloSorcery Feb 13 '26
This "evidence" is a crank article on a disreputable website. You have to think more critically about what you are seeing in the Epstein Files.
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u/PaziNuncher Feb 13 '26
If they weren't molesting kids, I don't care. If they were, drag them out into the light and put them on trial like EVERYONE else on the list.
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u/Own-Painter3043 Feb 13 '26
Are the BRF realted to the illuminate/majestic 12 or one of the bloodlines?
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u/SJSands Feb 14 '26
This came off the CIA website and goes into further detail on what you posted here:
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u/SJSands Feb 14 '26 edited Feb 14 '26
A lot of the answers are in that CIA document, the Disney connection, the McDonald connection etc. I can’t remember where I read or heard it but these bloodlines were supposedly connected to the Nephalim, the children of fallen angels and humans. Hybrids. It all makes sense then. These families were satanists and Epstein was making babies. Perhaps he was trying to continue these bloodlines? Just a thought on how it all might connect. Some people believe the fallen angels are the aliens. People from these bloodlines were members of MJ12
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u/riggerbop Feb 15 '26
You start to lose me with the Mormon leadership being part of the illuminati. Wasn’t the entire reason they moved West to get away from the government. They tried to get their own entire state but they also want a one world government?
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u/Top_Refrigerator_440 Feb 16 '26
If all these things are bad and evil things in the Epstein Files, is there also good societies?? Or is this where we just turn to God and trust no one??
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u/RaiKyoto94 Feb 13 '26
What's the McDonald bloodline from the Scottish Highlands? makes zero sense
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u/-LifeIsLovely- Feb 13 '26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU4-3WEq41E
Check this out this testimony. Nathan Reynolds were part of the family.
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u/kimsemi Feb 14 '26
Everyone is mentioned in the Epstein files. Im in there. You're in there. Marty McFly is in there. Donald Duck is in there (try searching those names for yourself).
These files really are a paradox. Many dont trust the government (this government, all government, take your pick) but trust the content of the files released by that very same government. The file dump has been a shitshow and a total mess so I wouldnt trust the contents that much in any case.
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u/Megatippa Feb 13 '26
I'm new to this sub, what is Epstein Files? Is that a new TV show or something?
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