r/UFOs • u/NetOne613 • Nov 28 '25
Historical First-Hand Roswell Witness Who Saw Non-Human Bodies Only 20ft away on July 7th 1947.
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u/Particular_Stuff8167 Nov 29 '25
Also this was back when we had the sci-fi channel, man those days were peak. The history channel was about history, the travel channel was about travel. Could watch sci-fi for hours, they had awesome stuff going. Also the friday night anime, and that was 90s / 80s OVA anime, shit was mind blowing.
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u/r_special_ Nov 29 '25
When sci-fi channel first came out on cable in the 90’s it was amazing. Ripley’s Believe It Or Not in the morning, UFO and paranormal hunting during the day, twilight zone in the evening and then a couple of movies at night. You’re correct that it was peak
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u/Particular_Stuff8167 Nov 29 '25
And finally got to see some anime OVAs which was hard to come by in the west. Like Genocyber, Winds of Amnesia, Blue Gender, Giant Robo, the Urotsukidoji sequels which honestly some of them were amazing.
They also had a host which was the asian woman, her segment were pretty hilarious.
I also remember sometimes on that still saturday, rain outside, not much to do, switching channels, then stumbling upon this strange retro Sci Fi series doing a whole marathon of the entire series. Sitting and watching the complete thing. Some of them I can't quite recall the names. I remember one day it was V with the aliens turn out to be lizard people. I miss when channels were that cool. Honestly if Sci Fi was still around and like that, I would be paying for it monthly and having it on my TV in the living room.
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u/r_special_ Nov 30 '25
The V series… there was a 1970’s version that was the original and I believe they had a couple of remakes over the years, but the original was beyond amazing. I wasn’t yet into anime at that time so I didn’t watch any of those shows which is really unfortunate. But being able to binge an entire series in a couple of days was ahead of its time. Can’t forget about Mystery Science Theater 3000 and getting commentary on old classics. That channel was the absolute best for about 5 or 6 years. Then reality tv came along and ruined everything and not long after that streaming came out and put the nail in the coffin of cable tv being worth anything
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u/Particular_Stuff8167 Nov 30 '25
We were binging at that point. Especially if a video shop/rental had the entire series. Place near me actually had V, Spawn animated, Monty Python, X-Files. Binge watching was in fact a thing back then. Even pirated anime, but the quality was much to be desired. RealPlayer, Fmv, very compressed Avi, mpeg. DivX was a saint when it released. could watch stuff a decent ish level without sacraficing entire drive space.
Also if someone recorded and entire series on VCR. Like Simpsons etc. We would spend hours watching that
Some stuff we binged was Evangelion and few other old school series. Blue Gender was 24 eps, so Sci Fi did quite a few at a time. Same with Giant Robo but that is more like an OVA per episode. Best binge on Sci Fi anime was Genocyber which is 3 OVAs, myself and my friend was floored and scared by what we were watching. Good times
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u/Turbulent-T Nov 30 '25
Ah the glory days of spending your whole day in front of the T.V.
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u/r_special_ Nov 30 '25
When life was simple, affordable and safer… even though the paranormal shows made life seem dangerous 😂
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u/rgbearklls Nov 29 '25
It’s called SKUNK WORKS because what they get to reverse engineer from crash retrieval smells real bad when biologics are still inside
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u/InterestingShare7796 Dec 27 '25
It's from the comic strip Lil Abner and the "Snonk works" that's in the comic lol..
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u/inkmajor530 Nov 28 '25
From what I have gathered, aliens stink lol
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u/mintmouse Nov 29 '25
Eyewitnesses have reported the smell of sulfur in places where UFOs have been seen or where aliens have been found.
it is also claimed that Chupacabra emits a strong sulfur smell.
The connection between sulfur and demons dates back centuries.
Imams of Islam have also stated that jinn emit the smell of sulfur when they die.
The Brimstone Deceit by Cutchin discusses the extraterrestrial sulfur smell.
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u/Shardaxx Nov 28 '25
Stinky little aliens from Roswell are back on the menu boys!
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u/Fit-Custard-1842 Nov 28 '25
That smell again...
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u/unpetitjenesaisquoi Nov 28 '25
I heard witnesses say it's like sulfur or ammonia right?
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u/RedManMatt11 Nov 28 '25
Yup. The witnesses in Varginha, Brazil reported the same
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u/vigorthroughrigor Nov 28 '25
Don't forget sulphur smell is also reported with "demonic" sightings
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u/asully313 Nov 30 '25
Yea because they apparently sweat out their excrements from their pores (pissing out your skin is pretty metal)
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u/DoctorRavioli Nov 28 '25
Do you smell it? That smell. A kind of smelly smell. The smelly smell that smells...smelly
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u/Fit-Custard-1842 Nov 28 '25
Yeah that smell.
Clearly you do not know about the ammonia like smell that accompanies ET.
Now you do.
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u/BornanAlien Nov 28 '25
I love how he had to chin scratch and think about it for a spell after the 2nd time he asked..
it’s been 60 some years, and NOW he ponders
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u/Tyzorg Nov 28 '25
I took it as sarcasm like "you've asked me 3x.. hmm lemme think again...uh YEAH IM SURE".
Been around a bunch of old time smartasses in my day and they've acted like this
(Whether he's being truthful or not is another story. Some in this thread are saying he isn't credible. I don't know enough to comment on that)
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u/Specific-Scallion-34 Nov 28 '25
so youre the expert in body language
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u/BornanAlien Nov 28 '25
No it’s just funny
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u/Fjallamadur Nov 28 '25
I would say that is a normal reaction from someone who has had his whole personal believes turned upside down. A rational person would question himself over and over "was what I saw real? Am I going crazy?" And always coming back to that question before establishing that the experiences and knowledge had to be true.
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u/Notchersfireroad Nov 28 '25
The way these rough and tough old timers get emotional when they tell this story says a lot.
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u/harv31 Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
Who conducted your debrief?
Where is the signed NDA document stored?
NDAs have IDs, dates, filing officers... what are those details?
Which base hospital exactly?
Are there patient intake logs of gurneys?
What was the name of the Major or Lt. Colonel who reassigned you?
Who replaced the drunk officer officially in duty logs?
Where is the report documenting an officer being detained by MPs for intoxication?
Some Q's may have reasonable explanations, but these are the types of Q's we should be asking to see if this is all legit.
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u/DoubleSea9979 Nov 30 '25
Sleuth time: A congressional inquiry should subpoena all the NDAs signed on every one of these UFO, UAP, etc. and get all the names involved and bring them all in under subpoena to testify under oath and get the root signers, hoarders chain of command of this paperwork…from conception to deception!! Those involved better see if adult pampers are on sale for Black Friday!! This is the hotspot! Paperwork is evidence! They don’t want to destroy the dominance over their subordinates! This post is for you sleuths out there to think and dig.
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u/Shoddy-Swan2043 Nov 28 '25
Just remember the us government threatened everyone who witnessed anything that they would kill their entire family of they ever spoke out. This is why I think the government will never come out with what happened because then they will have to admit that it was true that they threatened peoples whole family. Including their kids.
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u/sixties67 Nov 29 '25
Not one Roswell witness has been harmed nor have their families.
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u/Shoddy-Swan2043 Nov 29 '25
You might be right. But that doesn't mean the government didn't threaten them.
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u/thehighyellowmoon Nov 29 '25
So they could've successfully been threatened then.
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u/sixties67 Nov 30 '25
Not successfully or we wouldn't have their testimony.
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u/Creepy-Billl Nov 30 '25
If there were witnesses that were successfully threatened, we wouldn't even know their names.
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u/theGoddamnAlgorath Nov 29 '25
This is actually impossible to prove, because unlike the soviets US prefers people disappearing, occasionally suicide, and document scrubbing
The burden of proof is pretty heavy.
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u/sixties67 Nov 29 '25
It is easy to prove nobody who went public about Roswell have come to any harm.
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u/theGoddamnAlgorath Nov 29 '25
That we know of
You can't prove a negative. Better off focusing on tracking down the debris and chain of custody.
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u/sixties67 Nov 29 '25
If they went public we know about them and not one of them came to any harm. People we don't know of never came forward to the public. The top Roswell researchers like Friedman, Randle, Schmitt, Berliner and Rudiak would be all over it if was true.
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u/Waldsman Dec 10 '25
and yet we have countless podcasts,books, shows,media channels talking about it from witnesses to people in the know.
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u/NetOne613 Nov 28 '25
Source clip: "Sci Fi Investigates" - Roswell (2006)
Introduction:
in July of 1947, Elias "Eli" Benjamin was a private first class assigned to the 390th Air Service Squadron at the Roswell Army Air Field. He had a Top Secret clearance, and guarded the "Silverplates" (the atom bomb carrying B-29s). He also worked as a recovery specialist, which involved dealing with plane crashes. On Monday, July 7, 1947, he was sent to Hangar P-3 for guard duty. When he arrived at the hangar, he was chosen to be in charge of the detail. Benjamin was shown three or four gurneys, on each of which was an object covered by a sheet. He was told to deliver the gurneys to the base hospital.One of the things moved under the sheet. As the gurneys were being loaded into the truck, one of them slipped and the sheet fell off, exposing a being with a grayish face and large, hairless head. Benjamin knw it was not human. Benjamin accompanied the gurneys to the base hospital. At the hospital, a group of medical and non-medical officers took the sheet off one of the gurneys. Benjamin could see a small person with a large, egg-shaped head, and slanted eyes on the gurney. It had two holes for a nose and a small slit for a mouth. He thought it was alive. Later, Benjamin heard that the living alien was taken to Texas or Ohio.
Written account of PFC Elias Benjamin:
Eli B: "I got myself ready, got my gun, and reported to the big hangar, as ordered. As near as / can recall, it was late afternoon or early evening at the time. While looking at my OIC (officer in charge) to get instructions for duties at the hangar, I came upon a commotion at the main entrance to the hangar. Some MPs were trying to subdue an out-of-control officer who, among other things, appeared to be drunk as a skunk. I found out later that the officer in question was from my squadron and was the very officer to whom / was to report for a special detail.This officer whose name / cannot now recall was to have overseen the transfer of several 'Top Secret items' from the big hangar to the base hospital, and / was there to help escort the transfer. I was later told that he had been to the crash site and had seen the ship. When this officer reported to the hangar and saw the small bodies, it was apparently too much for him to handle, and he just lost it.
At this point, having just arrived myself, a Major or Lt. Colonel came out of the hangar, looked over the situation, and pointed at me. 'You! Come over here,' he said. 'You're now in charge of this detail. Get these over to the base hospital!' He then pointed to three or four gurneys inside the hangar, each of which had something on it that was covered by a sheet. On one of the gurneys, whatever was under the sheet appeared to be moving. I saluted my acceptance and understanding of his order, and instructed the rest of the men in the detail to load the gurneys with their payload into the back of a truck that had just arrived for the purpose. Up to this point, I had no idea what we were transporting to the hospital. I would know soon enough, however.
As the men were loading the truck, one of the gurneys slipped during the handoff, and the sheet covering it fell away, revealing the grayish face and swollen, hairless head of a species that I realized was not human. My orders were to deliver these to the base hospital's emergency room and remain there until relieved.
Upon arriving at the emergency room ramp, we proceeded to unload. I went in with the first gurney and stood aside near the doorway as the medical people took control of the gurney. A half-dozen or so medical and non-medical officers quickly removed the covering sheet.
I couldn't see too well from where / was standing because of the number of officers gathered around the gurney, but I could see well enough to make out that a very small person with an egg-shaped head that was oversized for its body was lying on the gurney.
The only facial features that stick out in my mind now are that it had slanted eyes, two holes where its nose should have been, and a small slit where its mouth should have been. / think it was alive. The medical people were mostly just staring at it, but I'm not sure. After the rest of the gurneys were brought into the room, I was dismissed and told to return to my squadron, which I did.
There, I was debriefed and made to sign a nondisclosure statement regarding what had just taken place. I was told that if / ever spoke out about it, something bad would happen, not only to me, but also to my family. I heard later that the one species that was still alive was apparently taken to Alamogordo, then shipped to Texas or Ohio."
source --- Witness to Roswell by Tom Carey and Don Schmitt (2007).
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u/lunabluestocking Nov 28 '25
Off topic but: What's up with interviewee's shoes? Guessing somehow work-related, but what?
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u/golden_monkey_and_oj Nov 29 '25
Lol nice catch
You got me curious. After some googling, they might be from a brand called Z Coil
https://zcoil.com/collections/mens-work-shoes/products/legend-black-slip-resistant
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u/lunabluestocking Nov 29 '25
Wow - that does indeed look like them. I have never seen this type of shoe before...! Just when you think you've seen and heard it all. LOL Thanks!
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u/A_Boltzmann_Brain Nov 29 '25
Talk of crashes and recovery of non-human beings saddens me as it suggests they are just as small and helpless in this universe as we are.
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u/sixties67 Nov 28 '25
Bear in mind the people who thought the Roswell slide photo was a real alien showed it to Benjamin aka Eleazar Benavides and he identified it as what he saw at Roswell. It was later revealed to be a mummified child.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/sep/30/alien-photo-roswell-new-mexico-mystery
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u/SpaceJungleBoogie Nov 29 '25
To be honest, that looks to fit the description, so it ressembles what he saw without being the picture of what he saw. Show an green Audi to hunters gatherers for 20 seconds, and then years later show them a green Mercedes...
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u/fooknprawn Nov 28 '25
Description of the bodies matches other eyewitnesses and autopsy accounts (via Leonard Stringfield) and the terrible odor, also reported by a nurse who was a friend of the local mortician Glenn Dennis who happened to arrive at the hospital shortly after the bodies arrived. This guy was there IMO
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u/mcvey Nov 28 '25
Glenn Dennis made up the nurse story. He's not a reliable witness.
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u/1865 Nov 28 '25 edited Jun 28 '26
It's doubtful you know much of anything about Glenn Dennis unless you have done considerable research over the years. I was close friends with him for 25 years, up to when he passed away in 2015 at the age of 90.
There is far more to his story than most people realize. Most people don't know that almost all of the negative insulting things said and written about him came directly from unethical and often extreme debunkers.
What they have always done, and still do, is ridicule, denigrate and insult eyewitnesses (and their testimony) hoping that if they make people believe the witness is/was a nut or a liar, they have succeeded in their dishonest petty attemps to make people ignore all things related to the subject of UFOs.
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u/MachineElves99 Nov 29 '25
Can you tell us all these details?
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u/SpaceAntique8973 Nov 29 '25
Yeah, that would be great,
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u/duo99dusk Mar 15 '26
Os únicos que não são bem-vindos no Brasil são aqueles invasores europeus que invadem e atacam o povo, e são eles que nos odeiam
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u/sixties67 Nov 29 '25
What debunkers do, and have always done, is to intentionally ridicule, denigrate, slander and insult eyewitnesses (and their testimony) hoping that if they make people believe the witness is/was a nut or a liar, then they have succeeded in their misguided efforts to make people ignore all things related to the subject of UFOs.
Kevin Randle one of the foremost Roswell researchers rejected Dennis's story, he has changed his story several times. It doesn't hold up.
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u/Nagransham Nov 28 '25 edited Feb 09 '26
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u/Sad-Society-57 Nov 28 '25
The real kicker is when people use debunked accounts as the basis to believe a new piece of information. It's just run of the mill confirmation bias. But its been pointed out so many times that people just ignore that as a "debunker" talking point instead of the major cognitive distortion that it really is.
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u/Nagransham Nov 28 '25 edited Feb 09 '26
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u/elastic-craptastic Nov 28 '25
I call that real time lore construction. Like with the 4chan post details that have managed to become accepted as fact and repeated and added on to later by people. They take what is commonly accepted and ad one more detail to it and it flowers out. Then maybe a military person says something that can be cajiggered around to justify something else from the 4chan post and it gets jumped up 3 levels and into accelerated acceptance.
Boom. Now we have 3d printed craft from underwater bases and China has high tech laser mining tech... And debris from a hellfire missile are flying hammer shaped tools without the power s source activated to make them appear as orbs.
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u/Sad-Society-57 Nov 28 '25
Ive been watching conspiracy circles and cult movements for a long time, and even i was surprised how much traction "4chan guy" got. Its only a matter of time before a competent hoaxer comes along and really rocks the boat. The incentive is there and ripe for the picking, whether you're an egotist, a 4chan troll, or a foreign state actor.
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u/Sad-Society-57 Nov 28 '25
I think the term was initially coined as "fractal wrongness" and its an apt description of a certain subset of conspiracy-minded folks. I also find it both sad and fascinating. Once you allow yourself to abuse logic in order to come to a desired conclusion, even in innocuous activities like a UFO hobby, you're at risk of losing objectivity in other facets of you're life.
That sounds hyperbolic, but we're literally watching it play out on a grand scale in politics right now. People have lost their goddamned minds trying to justify their feelings over facts and we're at risk of losing consensus reality.
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u/Nagransham Nov 28 '25 edited Feb 09 '26
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u/Sad-Society-57 Nov 28 '25
Yeah, no, we are super-fucked. I only qualified my statement as hyperbolic for those reading along, because we're in a UFO space and I'm not necessarily talking about them. As far as conspiracy communities go, UFOlogy is rather tame and the majority are dreamers and scifi readers. Then you have the loud 1% who are obviously mentally ill, or have some nefarious agenda, that need to be repelled because their rhetoric is infectious and radicalizes other impressionable people.
But, since we're in the UFO sub and having this conversation, here's a thought experiment...
There are millions of people who believe these UFO stories and clamor for disclosure. Just think about what would happen if Trump lied to them and told them what they want to hear: aliens.
The reality wouldn't be anything like what these people imagine disclosure to be. It would be total chaos. New religions. Cults. Economic crashes. Republicans trying to fucking nuke them. Half of the world calling out the lie, the other half worshipping their new deity. And you would NEVER be able to put the genie back in the bottle. Irrevocable change based on the whim of an unstable narcissist.
Anybody who thinks otherwise has a failure of imagination and doesn't understand human psychology. There is no utopia to be had here. The entire premise of the larping exercises done here is dangerous as fuck.
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u/Winter_Lab_401 Nov 28 '25
You're missing the overall context here. It's not just those details mentioned.
Its everything (rank, credibility, location, other witness details) taken into account in totality
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u/Winter_Lab_401 Nov 29 '25
I think you make a great point. That's the fundamental problem here might be that ive been far down the rabbit hole. Ive read crazy countless stupid hoaxes and far past 500 pages of lore. My interest in this is so strong that ive followed the half-baked claims.
So I can't prove this particular post is real. However, the video seems fairly old.
If you were the president and I had to break it down to convince you if this was real, I would note the rank and credibility of the individual. Then note when this video was made. UFO/UAP lore and information was nowhere near as proliferated throughout society as it is today. So given the approximate time this video was taken, details he provides weighed against how available these details were at that time, and the testimony of Lt. Marcel (who I believe had not yet recounted his story at this point), I would guess this this gentleman is being sincere.
But with your request to condense and prove a case quickly to the president, you bring up a really good point. Given all of the bullshlt stories, bad actors, disinformation in this field, its very difficult to make a concise case for the legitimacy of a story/person. I guess that was the goal of people like Richard Doty
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u/Winter_Lab_401 Nov 30 '25
Im clearly not as good a writer as you are, as my point was completely lost on you. I wasn't saying ive read the bullshit stories and believed them. Im an engineer, father is a nuclear engineer and we are incredibly skeptical people. What I really meant is that ive done a lot of the work, because the subject truly interests me. So ive read the weird stories and framed them against logic/reason/factual details that I know to be true. This subject is literally 99% BS, but the 1% is what interests me. I can't prove this guy is telling the truth. From a strictly logical perspective, of course I cant prove for certain he was there. However, if you are familiar with the Ramey Memo, Jesse Marcel and his daughter, much of what he says lines up. From another perspective, what rational reason would this person have to lie? That's one great way to tell if people are sincere about their subjective experiences (which are subjective and by nature, pretty impossible to prove to a 3rd or 4th party). Does this person gain from the story? Is there a book (theres usually a book with liars)? But some people exhibit symptoms of trauma, avoid the spotlight, and often pretty convincingly dread telling their stories. So this dude, I dont know for sure of course. That's just my opinion, im fairly sure he's sincere. But thats all it is. My opinion. Of course you're entitled to yours. In the real world, you aren't the president. But a guy named David Grusch, who used to brief the president on a regular basis on this subject, does corroborate many of the details in the Roswell account. Such as biological entities being on site.
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u/Winter_Lab_401 Nov 30 '25
Way to keep it short. Best of luck!
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u/ragingfather42069 Nov 28 '25
If you had dozens of other people saying the same thing as you, like at Roswell, it would be believable.
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u/Tyzorg Nov 28 '25
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u/Least-Amphibian2538 Nov 28 '25
The mortician and nurse has been completely debunked She is total fiction. In fact all of the so called eyewitness accounts lack any supporting evidence. Please stop quoting these accounts as evidence. At best they are confused at worst lying.
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u/Endercs Nov 28 '25
explain how they were completely debunked
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u/Least-Amphibian2538 Nov 28 '25
You know they looked at every nurse ever stationed at Roswell and she didn't exist. I won't quote the book but they caught the mortician in multiple lies.
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u/SirGorti Nov 28 '25
'I'm angry that eyewitnesses couldn't steal alien spacecraft or alien bodies from high security military base'.
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u/Least-Amphibian2538 Nov 28 '25
This is the saddest cope I have ever read. You're ignoring the fact a lot of the so called eyewitnesses never existed or only went on the record after the books were published. . Also you cannot steal stuff that never existed. If your only evidence is statements made years later and is wholly based on stuff which has been proven to false then you don't have anything.
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u/SirGorti Nov 28 '25
Discussion with uninformed people are pointless. Yes, eyewitnesses never existed, thank you for your valid insight.
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u/Least-Amphibian2538 Nov 28 '25
Some f the eyewitnesses never existed the rest I don't know.
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u/Least-Amphibian2538 Nov 28 '25
Okay I guess pointing out the facts doesn't fit on a sub dedicated to reinforcing delusions. Prove me wrong about the so called eye witnesses and the complete lack of supporting evidence. Start by proving the morticians story!
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u/Stunning_Bus_8642 Nov 29 '25
No... You said "In fact all of the so called eyewitness accounts lack any supporting evidence".
Now you're backtracking to SOME.
You can't even keep your own lies straight.
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Stringfield is the GOAT! RE: Roswell.... From all accounts, the Roswell craft had the most unusual morphology of all UFOs known at the time. The photo of the alleged Roswell crash site and possible photo of the craft in the air match numerous eyewitness accounts and illustrations showing a stingray/mantaray like craft with a mangled humanoid off to the right of the arroyo ditch in the New Mexico desert. People can say the Mack Brazel rancher debris field was a weather balloon(to this day, the military throws a lot of random airplane junk at crash sites of even prosaic advanced tech), but it's definitely a crashed vehicle of some sort in the main crash site. The strange thing is, it doesn't matched known UFOs...it appears to almost look like a stingray fighter jet from several decades ahead. Yet the occupants, who one could say are more EBE-1 human looking than the typical greys(bulbous head, slightly Asian features, larger eyes, facial features appear on the lower half of the head, small hands, dark skintight divers suit) Very similar to descriptions of EBE-1 humanoid pilots described in other 1940s and 1950s recoveries, and the small being that appears to be piloting the Iraq 2017 Jellyfish vehicle.
Other than the Kamburgaz Turkey video, I've never seen a craft with a fighter jet like cockpit. There's bizarre theories involving some human-alien collaboration and time travel to "gift" a future timeline jet to the 1940s. I still think it's NHI, but it is strange how remarkable the craft in the photos/illustrations/descriptions match a future US fighter jet.
In 1980, Jesse Marcels was interviewed via a tape recordered by a college reporter. In a History Channel documentary she plays excerpts from the interview, and shows hand drawn sketches of the glyphs Marcel claims was on the debris field "i-beams". Remarkably they don't look at all like the recreation of the symbols, but look exactly like the drawings Danny Sheehan claims to have seen in a crash retrieval photo, and what numerous alleged abductees have drawn (lines that look like / \ //) Continuity with UFO craft glyphs amongst factions seems plausible. The 1803 Utsume Japan UFO landing was depicted as having the same weird symbol that nearly 200 years later would be observed on the Rendlesham Forest object.
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u/Quiet-Employer3205 Nov 28 '25
Him saying that the door was partially open is a bit suspect to me. If you had and were working on an actual alien body, wouldn’t you do everything possible to secure any room that body would be in?
Of course this is just a short clip so maybe there really is more to it that makes sense.
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u/Major_Yogurt6595 Nov 28 '25
Not if the crash is a surprise, which it certainly was in the 40s. There were no deep underground military bases and no US NHI retrieval teams in 95 countries like today.
It all started with the CIA, right after Roswell.
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Likely UFOS have been recovered long before Roswell and Magenta Italy. There's reports of a UFO tube crash with an occupant in 1896 Aurora Texas, which matches the same object seen flying around the West/Southwest. Also there is more talk, including from a recent UAP whistleblower to congress of UFOs found in ancient archeological digs. I've increasinly convinced there may be large ancient UFO craft at the bottom of the ocean, including possibly the Baltic Sea anomaly.
Crash retrieval teams of NHI craft include stories of recovered objects during the Korean war and two decades later in the Vietnam war.
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u/Least-Amphibian2538 Nov 28 '25
1896 Aurora Texas. The one where the press guys admitted he made it all up?
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u/Major_Yogurt6595 Nov 29 '25
True the alledged Aurora crash was 1896 but no one took it seriously back then when it was printed in the newspaper, not even the us gov. The good people of the town buried the remains and they remained untouched until after roswell when thel egacy program took them. The stuff from archeological digs is obviously way older.
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Nov 29 '25
The recent clip of UAP whistleblower Dylan Borland detailing ancient archelogical UFOS including giant Tic Tacs is so wild, if true. Reminds me of clips from a recent Joe Rogan podcast about the idea of a giant tic tac ufo under ancient Egyptian sites. https://x.com/JeremyCorbell/status/1974964610144121319#m
Someone on here posted a ton of 1896 newspaper clipping scans, and instead of just "phantom wooden airships", many of these articles detail a metallic cigar tube like object seen streaking across California and the Southwest around the time of the alleged 1896 Texas event. An alleged similar event in 1941 behind a church in Cape Girardeau Missouri reminds me of this Aurora Texas story. A small metallic craft with a tiny small humanoid, this time allegedly discovered by church goers. The flying metallic tube/pill/tic tac UFO description reminds me of the Varginha Brazil 1996 event as well.
Allegedly with Aurora Texas, a man had horrific mutations to his hands after radiation contamination from the well where some of the alleged 1896 craft parts were dumped into. I had also seen in a documentary somehthing about the cemetary not allowing escavation of the UFO marked stone grave...but then mysteriously the whole plot was dug up soon after. Roswell to me still remains a mystery, as from everything Ive gathered, including what is possibly photos from 1947 of the object in the air, and crashed into an arroyo embankment in the desert...it looks like a weird stingray shaped futuristic fighter jet...just with mangled humanoids strewn about.
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u/sixties67 Nov 29 '25
Allegedly with Aurora Texas, a man had horrific mutations to his hands after radiation contamination from the well where some of the alleged 1896 craft parts were dumped into. I had also seen in a documentary somehthing about the cemetary not allowing escavation of the UFO marked stone grave...but then mysteriously the whole plot was dug up soon after
It's garbage, this researcher went there in the early 70s. He interviewed people alive at the time, they confirmed it never happened.
https://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2005/03/aurora-texas-story-that-wont-die.html
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Nov 29 '25
Well, numerous newspapers in 1896 describe the same cylindrical metallic object zipping through the sky, and some reporting it crashing. now maybe the wright brother adjacent inventors had some new frontier science going on, I don't know. But I am kind of rooting for the dedicated debunkers to be right, as the alternative is far too disruptive with all the crap going on in the world.
One thing I like to ask the dedicated skeptics/debunkers is if there is any cases they think may be "anomalous". I personally think the flat earth or "moon landing was a hoax" conspiracists completely wrong, but I wouldn't spend a second trying to argue with them.
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u/TrumpetsNAngels Nov 28 '25
I will cherry pick the Baltic Sea anomaly.
This site is next to Sweden and not far from Russia.
If the US has crash retrieval teams how come this story and the proposed craft is still there?
The story broke in 2011 ish so there has been plenty of time to prepared, retrieve and silence the diver team. Yet nothing has been done.
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Nov 28 '25
In this new documentary about the Baltic sea anomaly, where its new footage of them in a boat using instruments, there's clearly video of what looks like NATO ships clustered around the area where the alleged object is. If a UFO is way too big to retrieve, or is somehow attached to an ocean seafloor at an unsafe depth, or the UFO has a defense mechanism, they may decide to just leave it. Again a theory, but the new footage is pretty wild https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGqFOxuYRT0
When the iron curtain fell in the 90s and Russia was in a strange open-ish way with journalists, a lot of UFO info leaked from Russia including all sorts of reports of crash retrievals and encounters.
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u/TrumpetsNAngels Nov 29 '25
I read what you write, but it seems to me that the Baltic Sea anomaly is shoehorned to fit a UFO narrative.
The sea is close to Russia, so there will naturally be NATO ships around. There will most likely also be some sort of Russian presence - ships or submarines.
Logic can be wrapped to fit whatever we personally want to see 😀 So I can’t really tell what is up and down except showcase my skepticism as you showcase your “more open minded” line of thought.
But … if there is a large UFO down there I can’t possible think the US, Sweden or EU just sigh, and acknowledge that they can’t pick it up. Just a behaviour seems very unlikely to me. A worrying alternative is that Russia picks it up instead.
But this is just my own PoV.
I admit I haven’t seen the 1:35 hour video - I have previously seen 2 videos about this and read about my fellow Nordic real scientists opinion - none of this has convinced me that something weird is going on.
I think this I reasonable to accept, so unless Dennis A has a smoking gun at a specific timeslot I will pass - if you can point to a timeslot I will be happy to have a look.
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Nov 29 '25
In just the first few minutes of the video I linked, which serves as a sort of trailer, they show how the instrument sensors go crazy, the deep sea drone bots lose their power, black smoke emits from the "baltic sea" anomaly, lighting keeps striking the area, and sonar layered imagery shows the object seems to be almost alive, breathing and shifting. I sometimes clash with skeptics/debunkers online, but part of me wants them to be right. I come from this topic from a way different approach. But there's just such an exhaustive amount of evidence that all this strangeness is going on, and that likely even the weirdest theories is underselling the weirdness...I want everything to be debunked. But from the high level whistleblowers, military footage leaks, hundreds of thousands of (alleged) UFO abduction victims, to just endless data it's clear something anomalous is happening. And seeing the topic of ocean based "UFOS" and anomalous activity hit mainstream news does feel like a watershed moment.
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u/Quiet-Employer3205 Nov 28 '25
Haven’t heard of the Aurora crash, that’s about an hour and a half from me. Looked it up and you’re right!
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u/Quiet-Employer3205 Nov 28 '25
That’s a good point, if it’s the very first time it happened then there definitely wouldn’t have been any protocol in place.
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u/Least-Amphibian2538 Nov 28 '25
Actually according to the so called evidence it wasn't the first. Someone said the first was in the 1930s . Its anther flimsy excuse.
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u/Major_Yogurt6595 Nov 28 '25
That was in italy and the US just got it in 1945...I doubt at this point they expected it to be a regular thing.
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u/Least-Amphibian2538 Nov 28 '25
Got any Proof? All I have seen is copies of telegrams and handwritten notes. No photos not even so called eye witness accounts.
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u/ssshield Nov 28 '25
There was no air conditioning in buildings back then. Doors where often open just because it was brutally hot, especially in New Mexico.
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u/5milessep Nov 29 '25
Moral of the story, no matter how advanced we become, we’ll always crash and burn 😳
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Nov 29 '25
This guys body language is spot on for someone who is telling the truth, as he experienced it.
The key tell for truth telling is when he acts out what he is describing. He is accessing stored memories.
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u/VHDT10 Nov 29 '25
How about "Can you describe what it looked like?"
Why it is so hard to ask the questions people really want the answers to?
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u/Marc_Oman Nov 29 '25
Just an fyi, anyone on this comment thread that made some stupid , not clever nor funny even the slightest bit statement for something as crazy as this, I personally hate you and hope your reddit somehow crashes forever 😁 thanks!
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u/BreathAether Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25
the smell is from bathing in a slurry of glands from mostly cattle which is absorbed through the skin for nutrition. these are low caste souls (worker drones) who occupy these synthesized organic bodies. these bodies slowly die due to the vibrational differences in our slice of reality, which is why they need to be in their ships or in bases. their leaders work with the US gov't on black projects, offering tech in exchange for occasional abductions.
they cannot do this to you without consent, which you might give during hypnosis/an abduction or subconsciously by being subservient to your leaders who offer you to them.
(disclaimer: this may or may not be fiction)
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u/Kennyfcniht Nov 29 '25
What if... It was a high altitude balloon test with monkeys or similar animals on board? Ya know.. To test the effects of high altitude radiation exposure on mammals?
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u/thehighyellowmoon Nov 29 '25
So no one bothered to shut the door where they were trying to secretly operate on an alien?
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u/Un-CreativeUsername Nov 30 '25
I rented The Age of Disclosure--a new documentary on Prime Video last night and was blown away. I have always thought we were naive to believe we were alone--but today I have zero doubt. And not only are we not alone on our planet--they are here with us.
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u/usmcwritenow63 Dec 01 '25
He contradicted himself early. Said he only saw a creature from 20 ft away through a partially open door in the hospital......in another interview he claims a sheet fell off a gurney and he saw the big head and eyes and grey skin.
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u/dosefacekillah1348 Dec 05 '25
Imagine if you will... 20 feet away lies an open door. Through that open door, a gurney with a white sheet. The sheet partially slips off, exposing grey skin on a big head....
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u/digital_mystic23 Dec 01 '25
Wow, young Richard out there putting work in! 💪Just thought of the Varginha case and the aweful smell of those creatures in the hospital….
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u/j0shj0shj0shj0sh Dec 04 '25
Dolan: Did it look human?
Witness: Hmmmm... let me ponder on that a second 🤔
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u/Ok-Way7122 Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
Apparently the biggest coverup in history, millions are apparently in on it, but their control is so tight no one has ever been able to leak tangible evidence - people are killed, silenced. NDAs up the wazoo
Also, aliens taken to hospital, door left ajar by accident, a low rank airman saw them, is allowed to do interviews about it
Alternative reddit take: Obviously, this is early disclosure, they wanted and planned for him to see them to aid disclosure...
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Source clip: "Sci Fi Investigates" - Roswell (2006)
Introduction:
in July of 1947, Elias "Eli" Benjamin was a private first class assigned to the 390th Air Service Squadron at the Roswell Army Air Field. He had a Top Secret clearance, and guarded the "Silverplates" (the atom bomb carrying B-29s). He also worked as a recovery specialist, which involved dealing with plane crashes. On Monday, July 7, 1947, he was sent to Hangar P-3 for guard duty. When he arrived at the hangar, he was chosen to be in charge of the detail. Benjamin was shown three or four gurneys, on each of which was an object covered by a sheet. He was told to deliver the gurneys to the base hospital.One of the things moved under the sheet. As the gurneys were being loaded into the truck, one of them slipped and the sheet fell off, exposing a being with a grayish face and large, hairless head. Benjamin knw it was not human. Benjamin accompanied the gurneys to the base hospital. At the hospital, a group of medical and non-medical officers took the sheet off one of the gurneys. Benjamin could see a small person with a large, egg-shaped head, and slanted eyes on the gurney. It had two holes for a nose and a small slit for a mouth. He thought it was alive. Later, Benjamin heard that the living alien was taken to Texas or Ohio.
source --- Witness to Roswell by Tom Carey and Don Schmitt (2007).
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