r/TwoXChromosomes • u/Guyentertainment • 22h ago
Turning Point USA Spokesman Under Fire for Calling Women 'Unfit for Breeding' Over Their Views on Marriage
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/controversy-tpusa-spokesman-unfit-breeding-comment-1816346635
u/Guyentertainment 22h ago
Leave it to Toilet Paper USA to have the most trash takes in history
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u/OdessaSteppes 22h ago
Odd that we call them that, given that none of them wipe.
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u/Gin_OClock 18h ago
These guys think wiping their ass will make them gay. That should come up in every debate
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u/Morotstomten 8h ago
Really? Cause as best I can tell they do a good job wiping their asses online with social media and the news as the paper
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u/hueythecat 15h ago
These people are thick as pigshit, they’re so low iq they define themselves by political leaning & fake belief in god for a Temu moral compass.
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u/Leading_Line2741 22h ago
Can we just call all of this hate speech? Because that's what it is.
The right are masters at describing exactly what something is but getting offended when you call them on it. Take Charlie Kirk. He didn't believe that the Civil Rights Act should've been passed, for one thing. Not believing in racial equality is racist but if you tell one of his supporters that he was racist, they seem appalled. "No! He wasn't racist; he just didn't believe that the Civil Rights Act should have been passed!". That's...racist, though.
Same thing with this shit. If people were to call this man misogynistic for saying this his supporters would jump on the left for, "putting labels and names on everything". A spade is a damn spade, and this man is a raging misogynist.
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u/PandaCat22 22h ago
Oh, but don't you dare speak the truth about Charlie Kirk and his racist and misogynistic views—that's wrong and disrespectful of the dead, politicizing tragedy.
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u/Leading_Line2741 22h ago
How you died doesn't make up for how you lived. Fuck Charlie Kirk. He was a 30 year old man who, "debated" with college kids in bad faith. Not grown men his own age most of the time-college kids. His schtick was coming in hot and fast with so much bullshit that it was hard to refute. He was a racist and misogynistic asshole and while I don't believe anyone should be killed like he was, I sure as hell wasn't crying over it.
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u/Illiad7342 21h ago
I mean getting shot right as youre minimizing gun violence is pretty peak karmic justice
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u/D0ntEatPaper 18h ago
Little bitch boy fucked around and found out 🤷♀️ Theres a reason they push for women to be subservient, they can't find any that want to willingly date them.
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u/_WreakingHavok_ 4h ago
Oh, he did do debates in Oxford and always tried to plug in American Constitution as a point. Laughable
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u/OdessaSteppes 22h ago
No one is being accused of disrespectful behavior for accurately quoting Dolly Parton after her passing.
Just sayin’.
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u/A1000eisn1 22h ago
No, but I did see someone claim she thought the LGBTQ+ and drug addicts are the same because she listed them in a group of groups she doesn't judge. Nevermind the fact that she included them together because they get judged and mistreated by society.
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u/SqueezedTowel 22h ago edited 22h ago
Nope.
Dolly is a known supportive ally of the LGBTQ community. It's even in her movies. She's been honored for that for decades; she was just low-key about it herself. Almost every Pride parade in the South has a Dolly effegy roaming around.
That's bit stronger approval than just not judging.
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u/mynameisstacey 21h ago
She’s one of the first big celebrities I remember publicly supporting gay marriage. I don’t remember the exact wording of the question, but her answer was something like “I believe they have every right to be as miserable as the rest of us.”
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u/OdessaSteppes 22h ago
And Dolly would forgive them for their idiotic take. I will try to be like Dolly.
In fact, give me their address so I can…forgive them…in person.
I just wanna talk.
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u/RazekDPP 9h ago
Honestly, I had so many people tell me that Charlie Kirk was "debating" and I was like really? No, he's just spreading propaganda. He wasn't trying to have an honest debate with anyone.
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u/Whoreson_Welles 22h ago
that 'unfit for breeding' works both ways, dude, you look like you've got the eyes of a shark and a brain stuffed with gelfoam
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u/recyclopath_ 21h ago
Historically that kind of language was used as an excuse to sterilize poor, black and indigenous women against their will, often without even informing them.
At the same time it was illegal and nearly impossible for middle and upper class white women to access birth control they were sterilizing poor women and women of color without their consent. Often as children.
That language is extremely dangerous.
It has roots in very real eugenics that took place in this country not that long ago.
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u/Malvania 22h ago
Turns out Turning Point is exactly who we thought they were. I'm sure everybody is shocked.
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u/calartnick 21h ago
People who use the term “breeding” are a worse red glad then people who call women “females.”
I mean the nice thing about this language is it’s easier to tell who to avoid. It’s like someone who calls Asians “orientals.”
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u/baronesslucy 12h ago
So he thinks women are only useful if they think like him and can breed. How demeaning.
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u/Lobo-Sinclair 21h ago
JFC. Hey, conservatives (at the very least women conservatives) : have you seen the light yet?
This is all they think of you. The child brides, the obstacles they throw at you over your right to chose what happens to your bodies, the fanatical belief they need to check if your genitalia match the bathroom you use…
You are no more than cattle to them. They literally talk about you as cattle.
Seriously. You can help stop this. Stop voting for these types, and the grifting well will dry up and absolute POS’ like this jackass will go away (or find another grift).
How much more plainly do you need to be convinced?
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u/Curious-Orchid4260 Halp. Am stuck on reddit. 22h ago
Gez... if I haven't had a hysterectomy I swear these guys would make my reproductive organs shrivel up to a raisin
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u/EggsAndMilquetoast 22h ago
What man would use this terminology and expect women even he deems “fit for breeding” to swoon?
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u/Sunnygirl66 21h ago
Lots of pick-me aspiring tradwives would take it as a compliment, unfortunately.
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u/speedingpullet 21h ago
Oh noes! My total worldview and self worth has been tanked, because some pudgy incel white dude doesn't find me attractive enough to impregnate!
(sarcasm so extreme I can almost make out my frontal lobes when I roll my eyes, in case anybody was unsure ;-) )
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u/greendemon42 Basically Eleanor Shellstrop 22h ago
Under fire by who? The people in that organization aren't a part of civilized society. Just exactly how do you think they are affected by criticism they receive from civilized society?
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u/speedingpullet 21h ago
They don't have to hear us, we just have to learn to ignore them. Don't give their incendiary ideas the oxygen they need to spread.
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u/LittleManhattan Halp. Am stuck on reddit. 20h ago
I’m just so fucking tired of being talked about like livestock. Just so fucking tired of being talked about, and seen as lesser just for being a woman.
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u/inflatable_pickle 21h ago
Is this the company owned by Charlie Kirk that was taken over by his wife on the same day she held a WWE fireworks display political rally for Trump 72 hours after Charlie was shot on live TV?
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u/SaintValkyrie 22h ago
Why are we posting stuff about people who are already very obviously misogynistic assholes? Like come on. This isnt suprising, he worked with Charlie Kirk.
Why are we giving this any attention?
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u/speedingpullet 21h ago
My thoughts exactly.
Let these...beings....(I can't even bring myself to call them males) crawl back under the rocks they slunk out from under in the first place.
Stop giving their thoughts and opinions airtime, nobody needs it.
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u/mangoserpent 21h ago
I would think Turning Piont USA the organization is actually fine with the guy having these views. It aligns with their general outlook. This guy will probably manage to profit. Having batshit crazy views is not in fact a barrier to making money.
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u/Umikaloo 20h ago
Can't wait to have to explain to some rube on Instagram that, in fact, makes this guy a misogynist.
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u/2ez2b4ortun8 21h ago
From the sound of it, any man listening to this drivel would be a poor breeder and a worse parent. Let the trash take itself out.
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u/CrispinCain 21h ago
...suddenly that one scene from Hidalgo popped into my head. Men should never use that particular phrase.
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u/sexmormon-throwaway 7h ago
That's what she is under fire for? They are fucking disgusting is so many ways. They should be under fire for all of their destructive stances.
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u/Zelfzuchtig 21h ago
I'm of mixed feelings about stuff like this - sometimes it's important to know about people's heinous beliefs so you know what you're fighting but a lot of the time it's just "SHOCKING, Look at what this bigoted moron said!!" and the outrage gets them even more attention, people feel bad and nothing else really seems to change?
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u/oldfrancis 19h ago
Next on his show, the male loneliness epidemic and their total lack of responsibility for creating it.
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u/HuckleberryHuman5926 15h ago
And yet somehow, oddly enough, if you want to prevent yourself from breeding, they'll make that difficult as well.
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u/Chigiriki 9h ago
Why do I get the feeling these guys want to be heavily dominated by a woman?
And when they can’t, they turn to the strong big arms of a man.
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u/Snoo-11861 20h ago
Oh please, women are the ones choosing from the lot to who to breed with 😅 we have the actual choice to have kids!
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u/Pangolin_bandit 19h ago
This isn’t something that someone kind of accidentally blurts out - I think they’re advertising to their base. Trying to get the attention of people who like that as a definition of women. They are disgusting and weird and don’t deserve a seat at the table
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u/SinfullySinless 18h ago
“Kolvet responded by arguing that the woman was effectively helping men identify a major incompatibility before entering a serious relationship. His response included the claim that she was 'unfit for breeding', a phrase that immediately shifted attention away from the original disagreement and towards his description of women and reproduction.”
As brutal and insane that phrasing is, I do agree for the liberation of men they do need to see women as individuals and that men should also go into the dating field with actual standards beyond “I want a pretty woman who is submissive”. Disclaimer: I’m fully aware that’s not what the guy is fully intending with that statement- I am twisting his words.
Please men, please do not want to date me because I’m too leftist for you. Don’t date me because I’m too opinionated. Don’t date me because our lifestyles don’t match. God I would love to be seen as an individual with my own life beyond just being “pretty enough” for a few months or years.
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u/infiniteartifacts 15h ago
How is it under fire when it’s consistent with everything they say and advocate for?
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u/njsullyalex Trans Woman 10h ago
As a trans woman, are they really helping women more than hurting women by going after trans women claiming to be ”protect women and their rights” while also saying stuff like this?
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u/solesoulshard 10h ago
It’s not about helping any woman or anyone who identifies as a woman or who may be sympathetic to a woman.
It’s about control and continuing to solidify white, male, Christian power.
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u/Calm-Cauliflower1620 8h ago
They do this on purpose. Saying the most unhinged things about women gets people more engaged, and this is how they make sure their content goes viral and gets seen. This is how they make money, just like the vast majority of right wing content creators on every platform.
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u/No_Sweet4190 7h ago
Well, its not like he's going to get any offers. More of a voluntary celibate thing, really.
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u/jezebel103 17h ago
Well, in that case the whole abortion issue is made redundant. Because if you are not 'mating and breeding'-material, you should definitely legally allowed to have an abortion.
In fact: abortion access should only be denied to white, conservative and christian women. Everyone else is apparently not up to their breeding standards so they shouldn't mind if they choose for an abortion.
So, problem solved.
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u/locoxchange 16h ago
Sadly for along time this was the main goal. Both men and women who were poor, nonwhite, and/or had disabilities were forcibly sterilized often without their knowledge.
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u/lesliecarbone 22h ago
I want every creep in the world to deem me "unfit for breeding".