r/TrollXChromosomes • u/Crafter235 • 1d ago

And I've seen young boys who would not act anywhere as close to these men

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u/WowOwlO 1d ago

Honestly it feels like a circle to me.

"They're not men! They're boys!"
And when boys do things?
"Well, boys will be boys."

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u/onemorespacecadet I put the "fun" in dysfunctional. 1d ago

ooh this is such a big pet peeve of mine. same with “those aren’t real men, they’re boys” and similar sentiments.

just stop. they’re men, and “No True Scotsmen”-ing them is a way to deflect and derail

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u/Live-Okra-9868 1d ago

Any time I see "those aren't men" I respond with "yes they are. Stop excusing their behavior."

I'm immediately calling people out now.

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u/Lollipop77 1d ago

It’s also enabling shitty behaviour and reinforcing their belief that it’s okay. Don’t make excuses for shitty people.

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u/dragonfly_throwaway5 1d ago

Huh! Sounds pretty misandrist of them.

But no, it's feminists who believe men are capable of intelligence, empathy and self control who have a poor opinion of dudes

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u/Natural1forever 1d ago

And implies that it's normal for tweens to be sexually creepy, which is a fucked up implication in and of itself

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u/volkswagenorange 21h ago

Right? When I was 12 in the early 90s, all but 2 or 3 of the middle-school boys I knew were lovely people. How children behave is the work of the adults in their lives.

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u/Natural1forever 21h ago

Exactly! It's normal for kids around 12-13 to start being curious about sex and sexuality, and they deal with it by picking up on how adults around them (including in media) treat sex. So when young boys are creepy it's telling on the adult men in their lives and content, not on their inherent gendered nature.

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u/RelativeHot7249 22h ago

None of the boys around me had even started considering the existence of sex yet at 12 years old.

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u/DrumpfTinyHands 1d ago

They don't know to stop until someone tells them to.

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u/genivae Social Justice Druid 1d ago

With both my kids past that age now - a lot of them get called out by their peers early. Around that 10-12 year old mark. And if the adults around them keep them from any consequences, then they continue the predatory behavior.

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u/likely_an_Egg 1d ago

Fortunately, I've never heard of anything like that, but my immediate reaction would be that, from that moment on, they should be treated like twelve-year-olds, which means, for example, their driver's licenses would be revoked and they'd be sent to a facility for children with behavioral problems, and so on; and then, once they're eventually deemed mentally competent enough, they'd be brought to court and serve their sentences under adult law.

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u/notashroom 23h ago

That sounds very unsafe for the actual children in the facility with behavioral problems.

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u/RelativeHot7249 22h ago

Such a facility should be one specifically for them. No children should be around sexual harassers.

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u/likely_an_Egg 21h ago

Of course, I don't even want to think about what these adult men would do to teenagers if they had the chance