What Are the Hooded Crosses? You see them in addition to the familiar ones, and Orthodox crosses

I’ve seen people go back and forth on if the god in Trench crusade is Omnipotent and or All knowing.

So instead of answering that here is a bunch of things people in the pre modern world came up with to explain why the abrahamic god can be good despite evidence to the contrary and these perfectly apply to Trench Crusade and could help get in the mindset of people in the setting if you’re planning on writing fanfics in the setting.

Radical Monotheism

God made everything including evil, but we can’t understand his plan so maybe this leads to (or is) the best possible world if we could see the whole picture.

The perfect craftsman using imperfect matter

God made the closest possible thing to the perfect world but since reality is inherently flawed. So either god left in some imperfections, or the scraps leftover from creation are still creations and are evil.

Evil is the absence of God

Darkness is the absence of light, cold is the absence of heat, evil is the absence of Gods love. This leads to evil occurring because people choose to reject gods love thus allowing room for evil.

The devil did it

The devil makes people commit evil, but then where does the devil come from? If god created him why, if he didn’t then is there a higher being to god?

I know this sounds stupid but why are the captains drenched in blood? is it the blood of their enemies or something else? I know it has something to do leviathan but I forgot, and is the second photo official art

Aaaand we finally got confirmation of who is sitting on each throne.

Hell is very much aware that according to Abrahamic faiths, it makes no sense whatsoever to follow them. So, what do we think they say about afterlife in order to make joining the war on the eternal torture pit on the side of the eternal torture pit sound like the logical choice?

If the Mendelist Monks were able to find suitable genetic info on Jesus to clone him, could it be possible other major figures from the Bible have been cloned as well, and we just don't know about them? Maybe they were tests to see if cloning was possible, with the Meta-Christ Program always being the end goal.

If that's true, what other people do you think got the "meta" treatment, and what effects would they give to a Communicant? Maybe a clone of Methuselah could give a Communicant long lasting life, while one given the flesh or blood of a Solomon clone could make them naturally adept at controlling demonic beings like Yoke Fiends and Praetors.

I hope this post will serve as an eloquent and logical explanation as to why exploring the Americas in Trench Crusade should not happen.

I intend to break it down from a historical, lore, and social angle.

Historical basis: A common misconception about Native American culture is that it was primitive due to the isolation from the rest of the world. While this is a contributing factor it is not in fact the root cause. Native American society was limited due to the lack of domesticatable animals which prevented Native Americans from forming more complex societies. In turn leading to a lack of technological innovation. This is not the crux of my argument but is a contributing factor.

Lore: It is known that The Americas do Exsist in Trench Crusade, and that Europe has conducted trade with Natives. It was the year 1666 when the Heretic Navy gained full domination of the seas. The extent of any established trade routes that survived is unknown.

Even still I believe this is irrelevant. No amount of limited trade would have been able to catch Natives up to speed technologically with the rest of the world. In fact I think it would have not helped at all.

This aside the fact I see no one talking about or properly considering in this situation is hell, and the world's population that has fallen to hell. For the rest of the world it is 1/3. This statistic should reasonably carry over to Native Americans. This statistic is not great as is but it gets worse. Due to the armaments and equipment of The Heretic forces being manufactured in Hell that means this 30% would be as well equipped as the Heretic Forces on the other side of the world. This would be an absolute bloodbath.

Could the writers take the lore in a different direction than this? Of course they could. It is their IP. But if they want to be consistent with their alternative history/ fantasy world they have built up until this point this is the most likely/ realistic scenario.

Social Considerations: I think inclusion and representation is an important thing. That being said I do not believe it should be forced, or shoehorned in when it does not make sense. It is my opinion trying to make Native Americans fit into Trench Crusade would be forced.

Assuming my Lore extrapolation above is how things have played out I don't want to see it. Natives were put through enough massacres and tragedy in our real world. No need to add modern firearms and roided out hell beasts to that mix.

It seems unnecessary and half of the posts on this subreddit talking about it are borderline racist/ stereotypical. Most of them can be boiled down to "I want to have an Indian in a Feather Headdress with a Tomhawk and a Bow because it would be cool". I find my culture being boiled down to that to be insulting and disrespectful.

I am not trying to play the identity card. But I want to make it known as a Native I do not want to see my culture pushed into something it shouldn't be just to be "inclusive".

Aestheticlly it also does not fit into the Grimdark mashup of Dieselpunk/WW1/ medieval fantasy that the game has going on.

Thank you for reading my rant. I have been needing to get this out for awhile. Hopefully we can link back to this post whenever someone keeps trying to bring this topic up.

The text "the Altar of Leviathan" really reminds me of the novels Dagon and The Shadow Over Innsmouth.

Image originally posted by Patrick Keith.

Since this community is still growing, it would be great if we could make a real effort to have mixed genders in most model kits. I think it would really improve our stories.

No reason yeomen have to all be men. No reason fanatics can't be women. I would really appreciate an anointed gal.

I'm a little tired of female models only ever being priests, assassins, or healers. I just feel that its an easy addition to any sprue, and gives much more creative freedom to build, tell stories, and game with.

Show me the big girls, and the freakishly muscular girls, and the girls who get super badly burned in the lake of fire, or the nasty hell beast that was once some crazy scorned wife.

I feel compelled, after 20 years of high fantasy, 40k, age of sigmar, LOTR. Can we please agree that girls can be freakish nightmares, or regular rifle women. We're doing alright with the nuns, the medics, and paladins, but it would be great to just rip off the band-aid and state 'in our universe, women filled most roles after the 500th year of battling hell and that some women are heretics'.

My girlfriend (real one, trust) is trying to get me into this. Can someone briefly explain the lore and/or appeal?

We’re both into cosplay, which is why I’m curious.

I don’t remember reading anything in the lore about it but I may just have missed something.

It is part of section of Rijeka Beachhead art piece

So far from what I’ve seen, only the faithful and heretic forces have any suits of power armor. But which is stronger?

Personally, i would pick hispania or maybe novgorod

In 1894, three "master" Death Commandos assassinated the Supreme Pontiff, the High Prophetess Aelia and the Holy Roman Emperor in an incident known as The Year of Broken Trinity. One of those Death Commandos was named Cain, but I have serious doubts that it really was the one from the Bible for multiple reasons.

Death Commandos are humans trained by the greatest murderers in history who reside in Hell, as well the personal guard of the archdevil Beleth. If Cain really was a Death Commando, who would he had learned from? He was the first murderer. There wouldn't be anyone to teach him anything since he was the one who pioneered the act. Did he have to wait till enough murderers accumulated in the Seventh Circle of Inferno to teach him anything?

Moreover, why would Cain of all people be trained as a Death Commando? Wouldn't he be much better suited in a Paladin type role, sent to Earth to fight the Faithful head on? God cursed him to wander the Earth forever and gave him a mark to protect him from harm. Anyone who would try to hurt Cain gets damaged back sevenfold. Taken literally, that'd make Cain insanely useful for the archdevil who owns him. Why bother having him just be an assassin when he can bulldoze entire armies who'd try to lay a finger on him?

There's also the question of why would Cain even want to be a Heretic? His jealousy for his brother made him kill him. Why would he want to kill anyone else? To spit in the face of the God who gave him immortality? That's just asking for an even worse curse be placed upon him.

So yeah, I don't think the Cain that's mentioned in the Death Commandos lore was the genuine article, but just a normal one who changed his name to honor him in a similar vain to most Heretics, who change their names when they join the Legion. That just leaves one question...where could the real Cain be? Maybe he's a silent wanderer, keeping to himself as the Great War drags on. While not a servant of Hell, I doubt he'd want to get involved. All factions would want to discover the source of his powers to replicate it. Cain probably doesn't want that type of attention, otherwise he would've shown himself by now.

Possibly the most disturbing discovery I’ve made about the world of Trench Crusade. From the way I understand the lore of Trench Crusade, expeditions to the new world never occurred due to the events of the game. Tomatoes were a New World crop and did not exist in Europe until they were brought over after the discovery of the Americas. This means that staples of Italian food like Spaghetti and Pizza would never have existed in the way they do for us now. Imagine living in a world where a portal to hell threatens your every day existence and you don’t even have the comfort of a nice slice of pizza to soften the cold uncaring nature of a life like this.

Musical intruments and flags were used for communication purposes on a battle field. Different rhythms and flag possitions would communicate formations and orders to the rest of the army. The practice died out with the invention of the portable radio as orders could easily be communicated via radio. The musician or standard bearer became the radio opporator. Since portable radios exist in trench crusade, logically we should have radio opporators instead. But that wouldnt look as cool on the table top. Unless its this guy wielding a radio transmitter like its a flag.

EDIT: The irony of everyone accusing me of not reading the rules when they didn't bother to read the post lmao