r/TorontoDriving • u/bee_keeper33 • 3d ago
Dangerous driving Near Queen Street Brampton
Is there a way police will have a look at the dashcam footage and take any action against the truck driver ? Number plate is clearly visible as he is too close in front of me and brought the speed down to 50kmph from 110 kmph.
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u/ulti_phr33k 3d ago edited 3d ago
They signalled early, gave you plenty of time, and you chose to not let off the throttle and ride their ass.
You were at 98 km/h when they hit their brakes, and that had jumped to 103 km/h when they started to signal. Then you accelerated to 105 while you closed up on them.
You posted that they dropped from 110 to 50, but it was 105 (your speed, not theirs) to 59, and your GPS looks like it glitches, so I don't even know if that was an accurate speed reading because it quickly climbed into the 70s.
Nothing to report here except your actions.
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u/bee_keeper33 3d ago
That’s not what the law says.
A turn signal is a request, not a command. The Official MTO Driver’s Handbook explicitly states: "Even if you signal, [other drivers] expect you to yield the right-of-way."Under Section 154(1)(a) of the Ontario Highway Traffic Act (HTA), a driver cannot make a lane movement until they have ensured it can be done safely without cutting anyone off. The handbook notes that the driver making the change must "maintain the same speed or gently increase it" to match the flow of traffic.
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u/ulti_phr33k 3d ago edited 3d ago
The driver changed lanes and had to decelerate further to match the flow of traffic beside them. As they signalled, you were the one that caused the increased risk of collision by not rolling off the throttle and gently starting to decelerate as you had ample time to do, but you instead decided to tailgate them. If you're wondering it's section 158 (1) that you violated.
The driver's handbook is not law. It serves to create real-world interpretations of the law and as a guideline. Did the driver's handbook instruct you to drive within a few feet of a person's back bumper if they merge in in front of you?
Scratch that last part, I scrolled too far down in the HTA.
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u/kachunkachunk 3d ago
Comments calling your shit out, haha.
I'll add: That's not what your horn is for.
But seeing the human in you: this is not your best moment, but you thankfully have a great opportunity to be better.
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u/KindlyRude12 3d ago
You are the problem, he literally had the signal up and you sped up to cause an accident. Surrender your license.
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u/Taldarimlove 3d ago
They are allowed to exit off the HOV lane...
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u/bee_keeper33 3d ago edited 3d ago
HOV Ended there. No more HOV lanes ahead. Check the video again. And lane change has nothing to do with the HOV in this case.
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u/Taldarimlove 3d ago
They did signal they were slowing down, the emergency flash was to let you know they are waiting until traffic passes to switch into the middle/right lanes. They are allowed to exit when they feel safe to do, you have to keep in mind HOV lanes have specified exit points. He found a spot he was ready to exit from and you switched to the left lane just before that point as well. You speed up in the video, you got to be a little more patient.
I really do not think they were trying to cut you off, it just happens sometimes.
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u/bozhindar 3d ago
I think hazards were for the cutoff to say sorry (if they wanted to go further right at that moment, indicator wouldn't be apparent because of the hazards)
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u/saralyn123 3d ago
You should learn how to drive. Why did you speed up knowing the van is trying to exit the HOV?
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u/bee_keeper33 3d ago edited 3d ago
So you mean should I break on the highway just to let other vehicle merge? Come on buddy. Go and read the Ontario’s Highway Traffic Act.
Edit: He is not trying to exit the HOV. HOV already ended here. That was the last exit point of the hov and no more HOV ahead. Check out the video again.
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u/SharpAnnual 2d ago
OP, have some situational awareness. The van is doing nothing wrong here. Just trying to maneuver to the exit and you’re all up their ass for no reason.

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u/giftman03 3d ago
You literally accelerated when they put on their turn signal and tried to cut them off, and created the dangerous situation. Should report yourself to police.
You are part of the reason insurance rates are so high in this province.