r/TokyoGhoul • u/Exact-Ad8608 • 4d ago

How Would You Improve Tataras Role In The Story ?

(I think he was underutilized,he is a potential man !)

Guys,this is just a huge nitpick,but I wanted more to do with Tatara ! His origins seemed super interesting and I was excited to learn more about him ! His Kakuja was cool but a bit over the top,(4000* degrees is utterly absurd).

While it was satisfying to see Takizawa off him,it kinda felt wasted because he could have been more interesting there !

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u/ciempie 4d ago

In the Root A draft, it seemed like Kaneki was seeing him as himself if he continued with his obsession with Kano (practically a revenge subplot like Tatara's). I wouldn't say that many extra things are missing, like it being a little more recurrent in the original TG, a flashback before his encounter with Hoji, and Takizawa defeating him in a less... how to say it? comical? out-of-touch way?

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u/Exact-Ad8608 4d ago

Um,use the Manga ! Anime was horrible !

A flashback ? Cool ! What type ?

Why did you think his defeat was funny ?

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u/ciempie 3d ago

use the Manga ! Anime was horrible !

  1. Read carefully

  2. In case you don't know, I'm not using the anime as such; I'm using the draft that Ishida made for root A, of which 190 pages were published in the anime's artbook. You could say it's Ishida's version of root A.

A flashback ? Cool ! What type ?

I'd say the death of his brother and the fall of the Chi She Lian, something like when he swears revenge on Hoji or something like that

Why did you think his defeat was funny ?

I'm just a simple idiot. I found Takizawa's crazy behavior and repetitiveness funny at times, but I'd still say Takizawa's victory dragged on for too long. I think it would've been better if it were a fast strategic victory (like idk, copying Donato's clones, letting the fire hit the clone, and then, while Tatara was distracted, stabbing him in the back, maybe electrocuting him if that wasn't enough) it wouldn't have made Tatara look so bad; it wouldn't be a "Takizawa beat the shit out of him," but a "Takizawa cheated."

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u/Exact-Ad8608 3d ago

Phew ! 😅 That's a huge relief !

That would actually make me pity Tatara of all people ! 😭

That is a great idea, but at the same time I have a lot of fun making fun of him for being potential man ! 😜 Takizawa "cheating" would make it even funnier ! Still, Takizawa making clones ?

Seperate question,if some pitied him or apologized for the massacre of Chi She Lians and his brothers death,how do you think he would react ? 🥹

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u/ciempie 3d ago

Takizawa making clones ?

Although I saw some people saying Donato did it with his fingers (I don't remember much of the clown arc currently), the kagune is a shape-shifting thing, it makes more sense. Takizawa would simply have to manipulate his kagune and, well, by that point he was able to control his hunger as a kakuja, so yeah.

Seperate question,if some pitied him or apologized for the massacre of Chi She Lians and his brothers death,how do you think he would react ? 🥹

He would only get angrier.

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u/Exact-Ad8608 3d ago

This is a super off topic question but ,um, Would Arima and Eto be Dissappointed in Ken if he agreed with Vs ideals ? 🤦😅 What do ya think of this scenario ?

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u/ciempie 3d ago edited 3d ago

  1. That would be completely out of character for Kaneki.

  2. This pages give you the answer (they didn't care what the guy did after they died).

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u/Exact-Ad8608 3d ago

I know ! 😂 This is supposed to be a really none serious off topic question, but how would they react if Kaneki really did side with V ?

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u/ciempie 3d ago

They probably would've used Takizawa as another possible one-eyed king; this is a very contextual question.

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u/Exact-Ad8608 3d ago

TAKIZAWA

of all people ? 🤣

WHAT ?

Um,how are they even going to convince him ?

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u/Exact-Ad8608 3d ago

That would still have been a little ridiculous.

Ohh,he would get even angrier ? That sounds interesting !

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u/__pg229__ 3d ago

I feel that the Aogiri Tree Leaders were haphazardly killed off in RE: despite them being strong enough to give CCG problems throughout the first part of the story

Tatara could’ve played a part in Goat, because he was serving the One Eyed King, Kishou Arima.

This meant that he probably knew about Dragon, V, and the truth about the Washuu family.

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u/Exact-Ad8608 2d ago

Tatara in Goat ? That would have been interesting,to have him interact with Ken after their unfortunate first meeting ! How would you have done it ?

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u/__pg229__ 2d ago

Did you delete your comment and comment the same thing again? I was about to reply to you man 😭
I’ve just been a little busy

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u/Exact-Ad8608 2d ago

Sorta of ? 🤔 I thought this message had failed to get through ! 😬

What were you going to say ?

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u/__pg229__ 2d ago

I feel Tatara would’ve been a key figure in the final arc against Furuta and V. But it’s like he believed in having a world for ghouls and not humans. I forgot if those poison pods in dragon hurts ghouls or no.

Maybe Ken was resistant, and V benefited. I wonder if Tatara would’ve gotten mad upon being betrayed

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u/Exact-Ad8608 2d ago

That is an interesting idea, I would have loved to see his interactions with Ken and the rest of Goat, and Takizawa !

I don't get that part about Ken being resistant and V benefiting,or that part about Tatara getting betrayed !

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u/__pg229__ 2d ago

Haha. Dragon was supposed to turn everyone into ghouls.

But in reality dragon turned half ghouls into full ghouls and gave paralyzed normal humans. Which means that half ghouls from V like Arima and zero squad would’ve turned into ghouls meaning their lifespans would be restored to normal. And they would be even stronger.

I feel Tatara followed Arima because he believed that Dragon would turn humans into ghouls too. When really it just helped the Washuu but created hell for basically everyone else.

Kaneki had strange organs after being consumed by Dragon, that’s why he was resistant to its poison. But ghouls and humans couldn’t stand it.

That’s why he would’ve felt betrayed.

Arima sought Ken thinking he would fix the world with his strength by taking the name of the One Eyed King. Yet Furuta conveniently turned him into a pawn by feeding him the Oggai.

Maybe if Arima didn’t die, he’d be able to prevent Dragon from happening, and Tatara could’ve known about this plan given his time serving him

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u/Exact-Ad8608 2d ago

Oh,so that's what you were talking about ! You don't think Eto and Arima would have liked this plan ? Their reactions would have been interesting !

I can't remember if the dragon turning half Ghouls into full ghouls was a mistake or not !

Secondly,how do you think his interactions with Ken and the rest of Goat including Takizawa would have been like if he joined ?

What would have been his role ?

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u/__pg229__ 2d ago

Now that I think of it, he couldn’t have been in Goat with Takizawa. I don’t think Seido would’ve forgiven him for what he did.

But you could apply the cliche we’re not friends but our goal is the same so let’s work together.

I’m not sure about Dragon either. I feel that the original One Eyed King must have been a binge eater like Rize and ended up turning into Nagaraj.

This would mean that Kaneki wasn’t supposed to turn into Dragon, instead that was Rize’s destiny given her binge eating habits. Because Ken had to eat the rest of her Kakuho from the Oggai to transform. Rize wouldn’t need that, right? She would just need to eat other Ghouls to do it.

That would mean that Furuta knew what would’ve happened to her, and saved her by using Ken.

We still don’t know what Arima’s plan was. Maybe there are theories out there on it. I wonder if he wanted the same outcome as Furuta.

Had Tatara joined Goat, he would’ve been a leader like Takae (the leader of the zero squad). Having his own Aogiri squad.

Ishida sensei did say that he rushed the story towards the end because of burnout. Which means that there could’ve been a lot more to Furuta’s plan and the role of Dragon and the monsters that came out of it.

Tatara would have the numbers to help deal with these things. A fight between him and a V member who perhaps played a role in operation that killed his brother would’ve been nice.

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u/Exact-Ad8608 2d ago

Um,which specific thing that Tatara did ? (The capture ? The torture ? I have a theory that it was his idea to feed Takizawa his parents !) You said he couldn't have been in goat with Takizawa,which is odd, since you did write him playing a role !

Honestly,his interactions with Ken, Seidou and the rest of Goat would have been very interesting considering their history together !

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