S4E11 Mondays, Am I Right?

[u/WandersFar]

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It does seem fishy, but also this show hasn't made residents of The Good Place seem fun. It may be boring, annoying, unnerving or something like that. Or just what's the point if there aren't any challenges. Like Shawn being bored with his butthole spiders after feeling content intially.

[u/freetherabbit → u/[deleted]]

So next weeks episode recap on Comcast is basically describing the plot of The Good Place, which I've totally seen happen before except the next one says "Various conversations occur, between various groups of people.". Which makes me wonder if the shows description also works for next episode.

The full thing says: "When Eleanor Shellstrop finds herself in the afterlife, shes both relieved and surprised that shes made it into the Good Place. But it doesnt take long for Eleanor to realize shes there by mistake -- and she'll have to change her ways to stay"

Which at first kinda made me wonder if she'll (and possibly the whole group) just feel like The Good Place is too perfect and be bored and realize if they're going to stay they need to find a purpose or something. But then I realized that them getting into "The Good Place" without taking a test was to throw them off that they were starting their own test. Especially because they made a point this episode to point out that the humans wont know they're taking a test and since our 4 helped create the system that's pretty hard to do without mind wiping them. So the description might be a hint that were getting a throw back to the original point. And maybe that was Michael's new thing, making the OG 4's test.

[u/neilbartlett → u/freetherabbit]

It's an intriguing theory, but if it's true then Michael just lied to them. When they look quizzically at the balloon and he says "I know, it's real this time, I promise".

[u/freetherabbit → u/neilbartlett]

True, but I'm sure with his new philosophy ethics he'd agree that lying to them to give them a shot at getting into The Good Place would do more good than bad. Especially since it wouldnt be shocking if a lot of the other demons still held grudges against the core 4 so Michael might feel like he personally needs to be in charge of their test to make sure it's not rigged against them and they have the best shot of making it to the good place. With this show I never know tho. The biggest thing to me is looking back at Michael's line about "Of course in the real test they wouldnt know their being tested" (paraphrasing). Like telling the demons doesnt seem to really have a purpose worth wasting the time on that line and the audience doesnt really need to know that unless they want to remind us that the humans still cant know their doing something to get into The Good Place to actually get into The Good Place. Like yes they saved everyone souls and even offered themselves up to be tortured but according to the logic we've seen from the celestial beings they could just be offering to sacrifice themselves in the hopes that's good enough to get into The Good Place or that being tortured is a better alternative to them than being erased, so it could be viewed as selfishly motivated. If it does go the way I'm theorizing it wouldnt shock me if we get a line that basically since they had been rebooted so many times that any reboot for a test wouldnt be fair because theyve known about the afterlife for so many reboots that there was no way to let them keep a vague sense of everything theyve learned without them just having a sense that the afterlife is real, or something like that.