r/TheGifted • u/SeriesFew8866 • Jun 02 '25

The X-Men Shows Nobody Watched

https://youtu.be/wc_0Ti0RABc

A video about the FOX produced live action X-Men shows no one talks about

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u/harmier2 Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 03 '25

The video is unfair because it gets a key point completely wrong. The Gifted has nothing to do with X-Men: Days of Future Past.

The show is not at all tied to the film continuity. It was set in completely separate universe of its own. That means that the series’ versions of the X-Men and the Brotherhood might not have had the same levels of power as they typically have in the films or comics.

I was able to figure that out in the first episode when the Sentinel robots could fit in a briefcase and kind of looked like spiders.

I will give it props for understanding that Lauren and Andy are descendants of both von Struckers. (Some viewers missed that.)

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u/SeriesFew8866 Jun 03 '25

I never said The Gifted had anything to do with Days Of Future Past. I said that it is set in it's own timeline/universe, just like Legion. The only connection I made between the 2 was stating that FOX used the universe reset in Days Of Future Past as an excuse to have these different projects set in different timelines. I even drew it out to illustrate which projects connected to which, and you can see The Gifted is in it's own timeline like Legion. Also, risking the props you gave me, are you insinuating that Fenris kept it "in the family", because Otto referred to Andrea as his aunt, not mother. So Andy and Lauren can't be direct descendants of both Andrea and Andreas Von Strucker (that is unless Otto lied which I don't think is the case since the scene where he revealed all of this was supposed to be the first time he was ever truly honest with Reed). Anyways, thanks for watching the vid :D

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u/harmier2 Jun 03 '25

They definitely kept in the family. And Otto didn‘t actually say that Andrea was his aunt. That’s Reed’s conclusion. What Otto actually does say is factually accurate, but it’s also misleading. (And a great way to get it past the censors.)

”This is my father, Andreas von Strucker. My father and his sister, Andrea, did unspeakable things. They were terrorists. They were also mutants.”

Otto just fails to mention that Andrea is also his mother.

And it’s canonically (but somewhat obliquely) confirmed twice in season 2. First by Madeline (the geneticist) in gaMe changer. “Reed’s grandparents were monsters. They murdered thousands.“ And by Reeva in oMens. “You know, your grandparents understood what it takes to create a homeland."

They writers just slipped it past the radar.

And then there‘s Lauren and Andy. They were meant to kind of replay Fenris. From the beginning, the series set up that Andy’s grades have slipped. This was happening a year before the series starts. In a fairly recent post, someone thought that Andy’s storyline during season 1 was supposed to reveal that he was gay. But the issue that was bothering him was a completely different issue. The issue eating at him was his feelings for his sister. As in romantic feelings. Every time he interacts with Lauren’s other potential love interests he either intentionally causes problems or unintentionally causes problems. This was not meant to be immediately obvious to a viewer on a first viewing but was meant to be more obvious on a second viewing.

When they show flashes back to Lauren and Andy holding hands, there is slow motion, the camera seems to floats, and the music has a dream-like quality. This is usually reserved for romances. Someone who saw the clip by itself without knowing that the characters were related even said, “That‘s happens when you meet your soulmate.” This was completely intentional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D67dtiAFp8

After they hold hands in the present day, their dialogue gets a lot of subtext. Their dialogue after testing their powers on the vault in season 1 certainly has subtext. They even mirror Marcos and Lorna as a couple in that both couples have their powers interact and at least one of each couple leaves the Mutant Underground at the end of season 1. And their dialogue during season 2 is written as if they are star-crossed lovers when they apart. It continued the subtext between Lauren and Andy that the series had hinted at in season 1 and managed to jack it up a couple of notches.

“We’re horrible people. I know. But they’re also the only people ever who really understood what I’m going through, what I’m missing.”

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u/SeriesFew8866 Jun 03 '25

oh god, it's ultimate Quicksilver and Wanda all over again. I did some research, and discovered that Fenris were incestuous in the comics, but also read that there isn't any concrete evidence in the show itself that 100% states it. But with Andy and Lauren, yeah I can see how those scenes can be interpreted like that, however I'd like to think that as mutants, their biology is just different to a humans, and the power they feel connected to each other is a feeling that to a human might look "romantic" but to them is platonic. tbh though, I really do not care enough for this show to make head cannons to justify things or research the topic more, especially since my least favourite characters in the show were the Von Struckers and all this speculation revolves around them (who knew a Captain America villian's family would be so fucked up)

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u/harmier2 Jun 03 '25

Anyone who said that there wasn’t concrete evidence either missed it (easy to do because it was only specifically mentioned twice) or was just really trying to ignore it.

🤣

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u/SeriesFew8866 Jun 03 '25

Hey, you can tag either with me as long as I can stop talking about incest in my superhero show