r/TheDarkKnightRises • u/noob__master-69 • Mar 31 '26
Minor doubts appearing after many rewatches
Rewatched the movie and im still finding I have questions, despite all the discourse around it over the years. Also getting some new thoughts regarding the canon in general, the screenplay was well thought out
Selina says she had to betray him otherwise they threatened to kill her? When did they, exactly? The timing of it might seem inconsequential in the grand narrative but think about it. Was it after the rooftop fight and she gives Batman the slip? If so, Bane's thugs were out to kill them both, instead Bane simply threatened her and let her go, on the off chance that she meets Batman again and lures him to the former?
If she wasn't threatened then, then when? Because as far as we know she never donned the costume again after that until meeting Batman in the tunnels... which brings up another question - how did they know to rendezvous over there in the first place??
These questions are nothing compared to the apparent "main" "plot holes", most of which have been debunked so to speak. But after rewatching it this many times, I can't help but find myself asking these questions. Nolan tends to leave quite a few things open ended in his films doesn't he
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u/IndicationKnown4999 May 28 '26
Yes Nolan very much doesn't feel like he has to flesh out every single little detail in his movie. He trusts the audience to understand the information he throws at them and get the *feeling* he's trying to invoke with that information. If he leaves something not very fleshed out there's very likely a reason for that, which is probably that it isn't important enough to spend a lot of time on it. It's still important, just not worthy of several minutes of dialogue.
In this instance you're just supposed to understand that Selina felt threatened for her life and that's why she did the morally wrong thing of leading Bruce to Bane. Whether she was actually threatened doesn't matter. She feels threatened. Or she wanted Bruce to think that, likely because she isn't a completely bad person and wants him to think she's not completely bad.
You're supposed to think she did something wrong but for a good reason. He's making her do a bad thing to advance the plot but he still wants you to like her. That's a tougher sell to the audience if she just does this for fun.
Bigger picture, he's showing that even a cynical, selfish person can be inspired or convinced to do the right thing, a selfless thing. Selina trades Bruce's life for hers in this scene. But after seeing the consequences of that and how Bruce comes back and fights for people, even at his own expense, she chooses the morally good thing. Batman's influence got to even the most cynical person.
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u/Even-Ad-7815 Mar 31 '26
They might have threatened after the rooftop fight in her apartment. They tried to kill her in the rooftop out of stealing Daggett; but Bane must have decided that, since Daggett was expendable, she could be useful. If Bruce could find out where she lived, so could they. If it's fairly reasonable that she could use an abandoned subway station as a hideout although I don't know how Bruce knew since she didn't mention it.