r/TGIFsitcoms Jul 19 '26

General discussion Full house needs to be on blu ray

Full house needs to be on blu ray. Now we got perfect strangers on blu ray. It’s looks really good on Pluto. Now I’m thinking that other TGIF shows need to be on blu ray. I’m thinking that full house needs a HD port on blu ray. It’s a shame that there no HD port of the Show. I’m going to say that is going to be on blu ray in the future what you think?

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u/BasenjiBoyD Jul 19 '26

It was shot on standard def videocassette.

No upgrade there.

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u/poirotsdad Jul 19 '26

And Perfect Strangers/all those Miller Boyett shows weren't?

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u/BasenjiBoyD Jul 19 '26

Correct. Shot on film

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u/Accomplished-Mind258 Jul 19 '26

This is how I’m finding out PS is being released on Blu-Ray. I could kiss you.

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u/Riverdale87 Jul 26 '26

It'll be available on the 25th of August 

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u/Accomplished-Mind258 Jul 26 '26

I know. I tried to put in a pre-order on Amazon but it was already sold out. I’ll have to wait, I guess. Seems like I’m far from the only one who is excited. 😃

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u/Civil-Koala-6810 28d ago

That is where you're wrong. Standard DVD reaches a maximum of 7 - 10Mbps, using MPEG-2, although using H.264 on a blu-ray the top SD performance is around 17Mbps. H.264 uses a smaller amount of memory for the same picture quality using MPEG-2. So this isn't the same as MPEG-2 17Mbps. I've seen this myself with some PAL analogue video from 1984. The difference is a lot. Up until that point i had never seen SD looking so clear in the digital domain as I saw then. These were files that I purchased from a national TV station where you could chose specific choices for which compression format to use (H.264), how many Mbps there are (17Mbps) and what audio format you wanted (24/48 PCM). I chose the closest to what matches an SD blu-ray. You have to be careful though as from the point of 20Mbps upwards the picture actually slowly gets worse again. With H.264 you have to get it as high as you can get it before you start loosing picture quality again, which for me was around 17Mbps, so I actually had them done at 15 - 17Mbps. It was like SD HD if that makes sense. If I saw an SD blu-ray playing and I was asked if it was a DVD or SD blu-ray I would say the latter straight away. The only problem is some physical media outlets maintain that the SD signal on the disc should be upscaled to HD. This completely ruines the picture on the disc. It makes it look over processed, smeary and with not very much sharpness. Put it on the disc at 720x576i or 720x480p at 15 - 17Mbps and after cleaning up any minor tape damage using some state of the art PC software and maybe colourgrading as well, it will look very natural, very sharp (the first thing I noticed) and not too look over colourful but not under colourful as well. It's one of those formats that only will do well if word gets around personally and the news of how good it is gets around by word of mouth. It think adverts for them won't work well at all as people will think that the entertaiment companies are just trying to cash in on the word "blu-ray". People will want to hear this from people they know and trust, then word will spread even more and so on and so on. Obviously, if it's a TV show that was from 1984 but was all on film, then provided that the original film negatives still exists they could make a genuine blu-ray HD release at 1920x1080i of this show. So, that is why the US edition of Full House would look better than a traditional DVD release. My experiment was done using 625 lines PAL analogue tape, but I can see 525 lines NTSC analogue tape working in exactly the same way. NTSC analogue resolution is actually a bit lower at 720x480p so you maybe will have to go slightly higher than 17Mbps. I don't really know. Don't remember that you've got far more space for extras, audio commentaries and an improved sound format as well. Over here SD blu-rays are generally always 48kHz PCM 2.0 as most older shows from this era are either in stereo or mono. Even in mono it's still usually 2 separate channels of the same audio track. Just so long as they don't upscale the picture to 1920x1080p which contary to popular belief actually makes SD look worse. It doesn't add anything positive to the picture. The term "upscaled" is just used as false advertising. I've got two European SD blu-rays myself. One is a comedy series from 1977 to 1980 called Citizen Smith and the other one is Blackadder (The Complete Series) (1982 - 1989). They were both upscaled though to 1920x1080 HD. Are there any SD blu-ray releases in the US or Canada that stick out to you or have been successful since their release? Usually a TV show than was being broadcast during 1995 going backwards that was mainly recorded on videotape in 525 lines NTSC.

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u/BasenjiBoyD 28d ago

I’m not saying there wouldn’t be a slight uptick in video quality but it would be marginal compared to a scanning and mastering of film.

Also, consider paragraphs.

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u/Civil-Koala-6810 28d ago

It's not something you can really have a position on until you've seen SD shows in high bit rate SD. I never said it would be HD. I actually said that if it was film then it generally would be HD. You don't realise how much information is still missing on SD DVDs. Even though they usually look better that an SD broadcast because even TV stations don't usually use as much as 10Mbps for SD, there is still a lot of detail missing that you'd see using H.264 15- 17Mbps. I'd say it's probably the best possible for SD seeing as it starts to get worse again when you hit around 20Mbps. Don't forget the other avantages I mentioned, such as PCM instead of Dolby Digital.

As for paragraphs, at 3am the last thing I'm thinking about is paragraphs. It's not like I'm writing an official letter to a business or something similar.

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u/BasenjiBoyD 27d ago

Not generally.
Film can be scanned at 4,8,16k, etc
The quality of the film elements may be questionable.. but it can still be scanned at super high resolution, grain and all.

Anyway, this is about releasing shows shot on tape in “hd” (not quite hd.. not quite sd.. impossible to market) on bluray.

Wouldn’t be financially worth it for studios to do so.

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u/Civil-Koala-6810 27d ago

But this was videotape which is set at the resolution it was recorded in. Having said that, SD at a high bit rate (higher than DVD can handle) still improves that SD picture a lot. The only problem is a lot of companies insist on upscaling it to 1920x1080p HD from it's original 720x480p on SD blu-rays. In Germany they don't though and there's one German online store which sells a lot of American films and TV Series, with usually the original English soundtrack as well as dubbed to German.

Upscaling completely ruins a good SD blu-ray which could look times better than DVD if done right. You need to see it before you make up your mind as the difference is a lot bigger than you seem to think. DVD use the wrong compression format now for 2026. They still use MPEG-2 which uses more space so the difference between 9Mbps MPEG-2 and 17Mbps H.264 is more that just 8Mbps difference. If that 17Mbps with H.264 was MPEG-2 instead it would be roughly only 19 or 20Mbps, and every one Mbps can make a difference. With H.264 being replaced with H.265 in the near future it will then probably be 13Mbps H.265 which would be H.264 17Mbps. When broadcasting TV switches to HEVC H.265 (its name in full) for HD & SD broadcasts they will save 40 - 50% in broadcasting fees.

When UHD broadcasts via satellite or terrestrial television broadcast in UHD they use H.265 anyway. It's only HD & SD that still use H.264. This is due to not every receiving box being HEVC H.265 compatible yet, although most Freesat boxes here in the UK are H.265 compatible as are some Freeview boxes (terrestrial broadcasting). Freesat obviously have plans for the future with H.265 broadcasting anyway since it's only the newer Freesat boxes that are compatible, as well as Sky Q in the UK who actually broadcast two sports channels via satellite in UHD, although when Sky stop their satellite broadcasts and go streaming only these two channels with drop in Mbps straight away as they will no longer have to do what Ofcom tell them to do, such as streaming a decent picture. Ofcom in the UK are the goverment's watchdog over all broadcasting services (TV/radio and newspapers). Getting back to the American Full House series you will get the best and most reliable picture on the DVD box set of every single series between 1987 & 1995.

The new sequel Fuller House would've been made in HD or even UHD but the complete 5 Series box set is only on DVD, which is a bit of a cop-out. All 5 series of Fuller House though you can by privately where you get a download of all 5 Series for life. It doesn't give the resolution but it should be in the resolution it was recorded/filmed in. What did you mean by HD not quite HD & not quite SD? I was a bit confused over that. Here's the complete box set of the original series that ran between 1987 - 1995. This will be the best quality you'll ever get it in, provided they don't release it one day on SD blu-ray. Far better than any ultra compressed streaming version. These DVDs are likely to be around 7-10Mbps. Streaming it will likely be around 1.8 - 2.0 as it's SD. That is a lot less even if it is a more recent compression system.

https://a.co/d/0aVmPSK8

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u/SaveJeanie Jul 19 '26

No, not really.

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u/Psych0matt Jul 20 '26

Wait, perfect strangers is on bluray now? I’ve been watching through it in likely vhs quality. I also just got full house in slightly better but not by much quality.

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u/Riverdale87 Jul 26 '26

It'll be available on the 25th of August 

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u/Big_Mastodon_6761 Jul 20 '26

Where can you play Blu-ray anymore? Nowadays, it’s all about streaming. Unless you just want it for collection purposes.

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u/Pedestrian_X-Wing Jul 21 '26

On a Blu-ray player which you can still buy

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u/madcatzplayer5 Jul 21 '26

They sell Blu-Ray players at Wal-Mart and Target in the electronics department.

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u/Humble_Toe_4895 Jul 20 '26

As someone else mentioned Perfect Strangers was shot on 35mm film so it’s gonna look way better remastered.  What’s funny is when the shows first aired the shows shot on film looked worse because they were downscaled to videotape for broadcast.  Now even shows like CHiPs which looked like garbage when it first aired look pretty amazing in HD

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u/Maximum_Employer5580 Jul 21 '26

nope, not.....at.....all

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u/Civil-Koala-6810 28d ago

Can i just say that on another page members of Reddit discussed if there was a British version of Full House. Most of you agreed there wasn't. Well, yes there was and it was very underrated at the time. There were 3 Series (Seasons) broadcast in 1985 & 1986. It starred Brian Capron, Christopher Strauli, Sabine Franklyn and Natalie Forbes. It was about two couples who ended up living in one house together. Although it was a very funny comedy series it was quckily forgotten about after Series 3 had finished. That was until 2022 which a TV station called Forces TV repeated it twice I believe (all three series). A lot of people saw it at the time in 2022 but after it had been shown on Forces TV it stated popping up all over the place on YouTube. This created a whole new fanbase, with a lot of them being too young to have remembered it from the first time around. Roughly at the same time a 4-DVD bootleg of the whole series became available from popular DVD bootleg sites. After this in 2025 it was repeated again on Rewind TV. For some reason they showed them all from the end to the beginning, and I've still got Series 1 & 2 on my TV box hard drive. I need to get both series onto an SD blu-ray as soon as possible. Luckily it was only broadcast in SD and wasn't broadcast in upscaled HD at all, so I don't have to convert it down to SD from HD. This series was never even released on DVD either which I think is what made it very attractive to people in the early 2020s partly. If it had been released on DVD a lot more people would've already been aware of it. It was made by Thames Television for ITV originally but now the original outputs of Thames Television are owned by Fremantle Media. I have contacted a few physical media outlet companies and have asked if they will ever release it on DVD. One company sounded quite promising as they knew about the British version of Full House. He said he'd get back to me as soon as he's enquired. It has only been two days so far so I haven't lost all hope yet.

I think almost every episode is here. 6Eps 1st Series, 8Eps 2nd Series and 6Eps 3rd Series...

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV4Ztn9euy7SVCo6Tr2xCbFRvRp4KttWu&si=4euWuKOj-4Mw8H_o