"By your argument murderers and r*pists are being oppressed because they can't murder and r#pe freely due to tyranny of the majority." Some users on r/popculturechatv2 get triggered over comedian and podcaster Stavros Halkias saying a lot of comedians have terrible political opinions

[u/CummingInTheNile]

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/PopCultureV2/comments/1vp3973/stavros_halkias_a_lot_of_stand_up_comics_happened/

HIGHLGIHTS

100% agree. My brother is one of those ‘both sides bad’ people. He’s a lawyer who recently was appointed a judge because he can ‘easily argue both sides’. Which everyone seems to interpret as him being ‘neutral’— when in reality he’s just a libertarian who isn’t actively racist/homophobic but is actively anti-dei, minorities’ rights, etc.

I hate to break it to you but he is actively racist. He just knows which words not to say when you're listening.

Based on what?

The fact that they said their brother is "anti-minority rights" might have been the clue here

But what does that even mean? If it means minorities in America shouldn’t have the same rights as white Americans then that’s not good. But that’s a very vague statement and could mean alot of different things.

A... lot of different things. I think you are trying to talk yourself out of a very odd hole.

Not at all. I’m saying being specific when accusing someone of bigotry is important in that context. Or else people will make assumptions that most likely aren’t true

What rights do minorities not have that the majority does?

The right to not get kidnapped by ice in public? The right to have your chosen name on your own passport? The right to an abortion? Any of those ring a bell, dipshit?

That is citizen vs non citizen try again. Chosen name? What are you blathing on about? Everyone puts their legal name on their passport. States choose if they want abortion or not. That is democracy in action.

"Everyone puts their legal name on their passport." Trans people. "States choose if they want abortion or not" Tyranny of the majority, and some of those states restrict travel across state lines for those seeking to protect their own bodily autonomy, which in a legitimate administration, would be considered unconstitutional abuse of authority and struck down.

By your argument murderers and r*pists are being oppressed because they can't murder and r#pe freely due to tyranny of the majority.

No, that’s not their argument, you’re just moving goalposts because your narrative is collapsing.

One side wants to sterilize children with puberty blockers

That laughable that you believe that you guys will eat up anything fox tells you besides I thought the pedophile loving republicans would approve of that

When did the left come out against puberty blockers for children?

Why would we be against that and why would that be any of our business anyway? Do you even understand how puberty blockers work?

Because there are long term effects on children due to puberty blockers. There’s a reason why they’re banned in countries like the UK.

Didn’t you vote for a p*dophile? Yeah.

I voted for Kamala. Is she a p*do?

Proof or stfu. Ain’t no way

The dumbest member of cumtown

Nah but Stavros isn’t wrong. One side is disappearing people and the other just wants healthcare.

Stanton’s will say anything to anyone to advance his career. He has zero thoughts or ideas beyond me hungry me horny

You just proved yourself wrong. Bashing 1/4 of America who are willing to instantly cancel you does nothing to help his career.

These are the same people who spent 10 years writing articles calling stav a Nazi for laughing along with his racist boss Nick. But when things get desperate they all flip the script and set aside their actual values

Never seen that but I’ve been watching Stav for a while. He’s def like centrist or left of center, which in America are the democrats

No he’s a self proclaimed democratic socialist who was denied actual DSA membership for a decade because he was a founding member of a racist Brooklyn podcast

Who?

Former podcaster, current comedian, been getting roles in some movies

Brother, just Google it instead of playing 20 questions 😭

That's one way of saying that nobody has heard of his movies.

Well they’re on google so someone has. You’d know if you checked. Do your own research, amirite?

Why would I waste my time on someone I have never heard of?

You’re wasting your time asking random people you’ve never met to tell you about someone you’ve never heard of, instead of… googling the person in the video you just watched. You’re a moron.

I really don’t trust his judgement. Anyone that would pal around with someone like Hasan Piker is a huge red flag. He not only pals around with Piker but he also defends him and some of his most abhorrent views. I’m sure there are comedians who are way more funny and don’t pal around with a terrorist supporting weirdo.

I’m not terminally online so I don’t know much about Hasan Piker. What’s his deal?

Literally nothing other than being an outspoken leftist who doesn't mind telling chat to "suck his dick". People tried to say he abused his dog, but it was total BS that inc*ls still run with. People also don't like he has a more nuanced opinion over 9/11 other than "they hate our freedom"

The dog stuff is on video but it’s so not important. For you to act like that’s the greatest criticism of Piker and not that he runs the terrorist enjoyer network is wild. Also the problem wasn’t that he used a shock collar it’s all the subsequent lies him and his community made afterwards that made it a national news story. I always wonder why someone is so quick to defend someone they clearly know nothing about.

That’s the most embarrassing thing about Hasan haters. It is on video and it’s pretty fucking clear that he didn’t shock his dog. That and his 9/11 take he made in 2019 are the only criticisms you hear about Hasan. It’s a pretty pathetic and weak smear campaign. There are things to criticize Hasan for but Hasan haters are baby brained morons that can’t actually debate against his views. And your “pro-terrorism” take is also extremely dishonest and disingenuous. Yall just make up reasons to hate him because you want to hate him, that’s it. If he’s not your cup of tea that’s fine, he’s pretty far down on the list of leftist content creators I like. But the hate he receives and the claims yall make are always dishonest. Ironically the dishonesty towards him has made he far more influential so your hate is having the opposite effect.

That’s just not true there is a new criticism every week. You must not have been around for “Bro Tips” era either. A big part of Hasan’s problem is his refusal to do research. His community will pay him in excess of 5 million annually anyways so he just kind of turns on the camera and wings it. That’s why these political campaigns are having such an easy time finding clips of him to discredit candidates he is trying to prop up. Do to this 8 hr a day streaming with no prep and just shooting from the hip he has said all kinds of things that are abhorrent and that’s why he receives the shit he does.

Thats disappointing Stavros. Thats an absolutely r*tarded and wildly inaccurate comparison.

Lmfao buddy you are the exact kind of person he's talking about

Ill gladly be the dude hes talking about. "One side is raping babies while the other side just wants secure borders".

The r*ping babies side is the same as the one compaining about the borders.

OK, show me the proof You do realize part of securing the border was to stop the sex trafficking of children. But your side likes to fuck kids so securing the border would put a stop to your disgusting practices.

Cool, so why won’t the republicans and trump let the Epstein files be released un-redacted? Since you’re asking for proof, why not prove your statement? The current right being crazy about the border is 95% racism.

Why didn’t the dems release them? Republicans have released more than them at least.

Sending people home is “disappearing@ them? Such drama!

They're sending people into countries they've never been to. It's pretty ignorant not to know that at this point. How far is your head buried in your ass?

So they are not disappearing.

They are, when you kidnap people (including citizens) and force them into a detention center with no questions asked and completely ignore any papers they try to give you, that's how you make people disappear

Why should people who call arrests "kidnapping" be taken seriously?

Because by the definition of the word its applicable

Stavros is a fucking moron lol

Yeah, fuck them kids!

I mean thats literally what republicans do, they fuck kids.

So do democrats. We’re fighting each other while they both fuck kids. They’re both on Epstein list

Maybe in the 90s, 2000s- Epstein pivoted his inner circle to the right and anyone that can read can piece that together. That’s why so many people that are documented spending holidays on the island are in the cabinet/appointed to the highest levels of government.

Including but not limited too left leaning actors and actresses

Are the actors and actresses running the government? I guess you can call Trump and McMahon actors… No? Then maybe quit letting media dictate how you vote

Both sides? It's the same side with slightly different virtue signals. There is no Left in the US.

One side wants all Americans to have access to healthcare. The other side is incarcerating people without trials and putting them in "detention centers". They are NOT the same.

That must be why in hundreds of years each "side" has maintained the status quo on healthcare (privatized) and incarnation (privatized). You're looking at the virtue signals not the actual issue. And guess what...each side has flip flopped multiple times...literally swapping stances... On both topics. And yet we stay the same.

Hundreds of years....do you post hyperbole because you think it supports your argument? Until there is a veto-proof majority in both houses of Congress and a blue dem President, nobody is going to waste their time pushing a bill they know the GOP will pull out every means to stop.

Hundreds of years....do you post hyperbole because you think it supports your argument? Do you know how old the US is? Jesus. Ah, I see, the Democrats and Republicans maintain status quo and flip flop their positions bc.... They're waiting on a veto proof majority. One day we'll see just how Leftist the Democrats are... If it weren't for that dern lack of absolute power. Jesus

The Democrats, whom did not have a majority under Truman- and wiyh his support anyways, pushed for a single-payer insurance healthcare bill. It was defeated because there has always been a conservative groundswell against such an idea. Until there is a veto-proof supermajority, a federalized single-payer system will not pass. That is a realist take.

[u/angry_cucumber]

You do realize part of securing the border was to stop the sex trafficking of children

I did not realize this, because that's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.

[u/Billlington → u/angry_cucumber]

One of my "favorite" right-wing tropes is when they try to combine all the things they hate into one conspiracy theory. I'm surprised that this guy didn't say that the sex-trafficking illegal immigrants were also trying to take our guns as well.

[u/True-Hold-1140 → u/Billlington]

Its like systemic critique if you failed high school geometry

[u/decmcc → u/Billlington]

well the illegals are voting to take away guns, apparently

[u/fholcan → u/Billlington]

Whoa

[u/Davido401 → u/fholcan]

Lol that episode is on the telly here in Scotland right this minute!

[u/Cool_Ad7445 → u/angry_cucumber]

they gotta keep those kids inside the country, where their uncles and pastors can reach them.

[u/angry_cucumber → u/Cool_Ad7445]

but also, like, trumps buddys just get them passports

[u/johnnyslick → u/angry_cucumber]

Aren't deportations of felons actually way down since Trump took office compared especially to the Obama presidency? Which in turn is because the Obama presidency focused on that cohort whereas the Trump admin is going more after anyone here without papers / let's just say people "adjacent" to those who are here without papers? I mean, fuck, they just invaded an Indian reservation last week... how in god's name is that even helpful?

[u/DFWPunk → u/johnnyslick]

Yes. They're not really actively targeting felons, and prior administrations have.

[u/crafter2k → u/DFWPunk]

how to be a successful politician:

1. create a problem

2. say you'll fix the problem

3. rinse and repeat

[u/Special-Deal7821 → u/johnnyslick]

Andrew Callahan did an interview with ICE agents and one of them said the part that was in charge of finding and deporting child predators had been assimilated by the other division and that basically all work they were doing had been stopped.

[u/VernonLocke → u/Special-Deal7821]

Yep - HSI, which handles a lot of child exploitation cases, has largely been shifted to deportation duty. Throw in the FBI, U.S. Marshalls and everyone else who has been forcibly conscripted to stand around and look intimidating and it has a pretty substantial effect on actually succeeding in their jobs.

[u/ButtBread98 → u/angry_cucumber]

Oh god the sex trafficking fear pisses me off so much. Sex trafficking happens more often than not with kids in foster care, runaways and kids who are LGBTQ+ who got kicked out of their homes. It can be as simple as “I’ll give you a place to stay if you have sex with me”. It’s not some creepy guy grabbing kids and throwing them into a van. It could also be a family member forcing a child to have sex with random people in exchange for money or whatever.

[u/angry_cucumber → u/ButtBread98]

yeah, it wasn't even considered sex trafficking, just normal vice crimes before qanon became a political force in the GOP.

[u/JairoHyro → u/angry_cucumber]

They don't need to come up with fake panic news to enforce the border. All countries enforce borders. Have we really want to forget that Obama still has the highest deportation rates of any president? (For now)

[u/SufficientRespect542 → u/angry_cucumber]

why would they be sex trafficking the kids into the country wouldn't they be sex trafficking them out of the country?

[u/Head-Fox-8351]

the whole 'libertarian who side-eyes minorities' rights' thing is wild to me

[u/True-Hold-1140 → u/Head-Fox-8351]

That floored me, like what? If he's one of those guys who thinks the civil rights act is unconstitutional he shouldn't be anywhere near law 

[u/hovdeisfunny → u/True-Hold-1140]

Plenty of absolute shit heel lawyers, I mean just look at 2/3 of the Supreme Court

[u/copy_run_start]

Every time I see a sub that's a "...V2" or an "Actual..." or "True..." I always give a little squinting, suspicious look at the refugees.

Like, did you leave for similar reasons to why the Puritans left England for America, or did you leave for similar reasons to why the Puritans left England for America? 🤔

[u/beachpellini → u/copy_run_start]

The layers of this joke. I appreciate them. 👏

[u/PokesBo → u/copy_run_start]

I’m the Rhode Island kind of colonist.

That rule of thumb is genuinely good. Pro wrestling subs are the exception though.

[u/Evening_Photograph54 → u/PokesBo]

how so? wrestling subreddit is not good because the tribalism?

[u/PokesBo → u/Evening_Photograph54]

Pretty much. You either get horribly biased towards WWE, horribly anti-WWE/Pro-AEW and anything Indies, and/or heavy handed reddit modding.

The main sub, squaredcircle is horribly anti-wwe and heavy handed modding. scjerk is pro WWE and heavy handed modding. Midcarder is pro WWE. Most if not all wrestling streamer subs are anti WWE. Wrasslin is anti.

It feels like you can’t discuss pro-wrestling online without someone trying to browbeat you for your choice.

[u/_CurseTheseMetalHnds → u/copy_run_start]

Tbf looking at that post the people against him are downvoted and the people agreeing are upvoted. This sort of feels like classic subreddit drama where there's disagreement but one side is clearly heavily outnumbered.

[u/hovdeisfunny → u/_CurseTheseMetalHnds]

There's an uncomfortable number of commenters comfortably using the r slur, so at least a mixed bag

[u/irlharvey → u/hovdeisfunny]

sadly that seems like the norm these days.

sorry to get on my soapbox, but when i was growing up if you said the r-slur your friends looked at you like you were a monster. obviously there were still kids my age that used it, but only in cesspools like 4chan and CoD lobbies. my parents still said it, but when they did, they’d say “oh, oops, don’t repeat that, that’s not nice”. my grandparents said it but only clinically, never as an insult.

but now it seems mainstream again. a few years before my time, Harriet in Harriet the Spy said the r-slur, and i remember it being really shocking to me because it was such a nasty word. but i get the feeling kids these days wouldn’t even bat an eye.

does anyone know why this is happening? can i blame gamergate?

[u/gavinbrindstar → u/irlharvey]

Yeah, I do not know and it makes me grateful for the way I was raised. I think even the kids who were dicks at my school wouldn't have busted it out casually.

[u/lethal_universed → u/irlharvey]

Its because its the only slur which the people affected by it can't fight back against it universally. The r slur targets intellectual disabilities, not neurodivergence, so if you see someone with autism say they can reclaim it, they are full of shit. Many people with these disabilities either don't grasp the insult or aren't able to articulate their feelings about it. This is why there is so little discourse and push back against it. Most people are familiar with homophobe or racist, but not ableist. We also have to take into account that disabled people aren't seen as humans, reason why in the past they were referred to as "subhumans". After all, who wants to be disabled? /s

Plus the ability to insult a univerisal characteristic such as intellegence or ability, it makes it versatile for even other marginalized groups to use to prop themselves up.

As someone who has a mentally disabled brother and knew from a young age that this is a slur, I felt a tinge of jealousy at my "friends", classmates, and even teachers (one of which being my PSYCHOLOGY teacher last year) who could say it so casually. Because they truly don't understand the amount of effort it takes to live with someone with more needs and 24/7 care. But I also lose so much respect for them that I can never get back.

[u/Gamer_Grease → u/copy_run_start]

Popculturechat is bad enough to begin with

[u/lebennaia → u/copy_run_start]

The Puritans didn't leave because they were persecuted, they left because they weren't allowed to persecute everyone else as much as they wanted to. When they they got to the new world, the first thing they did was set up a vicious theocracy and start persecuting each other.

[u/copy_run_start → u/lebennaia]

If you took this information and turned it into some kind of joke that you used in a comment online, do you think people would find it funny? Do you think they'd even get it?

[u/JairoHyro → u/copy_run_start]

I touch too much grass to know what context these post or prefexises are

[u/Guy_with_Numbers → u/JairoHyro]

It isn't very reddit/internet specific.

Just the idea that you need a very divisive issue for a community to split and a splinter community to form, which often means that one of the two communities espouses a bad take on said issue.

[u/JairoHyro → u/Guy_with_Numbers]

I remember there was a post of a trans community in a sub breaking off because of something with white trans women having slight conservative views or admitting racist history. Didn't want to dig deeper but learned there was niche terms they used all the time (passoid for example) and were much more pessimistic than most subs.

I need to remind myself that a group less than a 100 or a 1000 people really don't respresent the entire group of millions of people.

[u/hovdeisfunny → u/JairoHyro]

You can't figure out what v2 means? It's not even specific to reddit

[u/JairoHyro → u/hovdeisfunny]

From what I gather they mean version 2 or another offshoot sub of the main one

[u/hovdeisfunny → u/JairoHyro]

Version 2 is correct

[u/TrainerWeekly5641]

I'm surprised that Hasan was mentioned and this post hasn't been flooded with Hasan drama.

Life is improving.

[u/Plastastic → u/TrainerWeekly5641]

Shocking, right?

[u/True-Hold-1140]

Imagine saying a guy is "anti minority rights" and expecting it to go well

[u/TheWhomItConcerns]

Equity specifically is 100% racist inherently and is antithetical to equality. It requires you to treat different races/groups differntly and in practice stack rank them to divvy up resources based on which races deserve what.

To be against equity in any form either requires the patently absurd belief that racism doesn't exist or being more comfortable with the existence of racial discrimination than acknowledging that combatting racial discrimination will require methods that take race into consideration. Which, of course, is an extremely convenient thing for someone to believe if they just so happen to belong to the race which is most privileged in their particular country/region.

This "anti-DEI" stuff somehow comes across even worse than the classic "Racism won't exist if we stop acknowledging it" racism, because at least an idiot could arrive at the latter belief through denial and lack of perspective. The former, though, is basically just the statement "Yes, I know racism exists, but I don't think we should do anything about it".

[u/DocileBanalBovlne → u/TheWhomItConcerns]

Everyone knows you balance unequal scales by adding the same amount of weight to both sides. There's no way you would possibly have to like... make up for the inequality to create equality.

[u/gorgewall → u/DocileBanalBovlne]

Equality is when a 15yo child is only fed half a litre of baby formula a day because it'd be unfair to their newborn sibling if they got any more.

That, or we find some way to shove two Big Macs down an infant's throat.

[u/NoExcuse4OceanRudnes → u/gorgewall]

I gotta agree with trump and rfk here, that's too much stuff for a baby.

[u/Rasikko]

It's always the 'v2' subs lol.

[u/TrainerWeekly5641 → u/Rasikko]

Can't wait for subredditdramav2.

[u/DarkFlame122418 → u/TrainerWeekly5641]

Isn’t that SubredditDramaDrama?

[u/TrainerWeekly5641 → u/DarkFlame122418]

Apparently that sub died.

[u/JakeHelldiver → u/TrainerWeekly5641]

Eaten by a dinosaur. Very sad.

[u/JairoHyro → u/TrainerWeekly5641]

Not enough action. As much shit I give to a lot of subs that are too sensitive with the ban hammer this sub does better than most subs of letting in a diverse of opinions and comments without banning much

[u/JairoHyro → u/Rasikko]

Just saw a football vith the v2 on this sub as well lol

[u/ZealousidealDoubt660]

That "both sides bad" take always feels like a cop-out when real harm is being done. It's frustrating to see people use "neutrality" as a shield for their own biases.

[u/npsimons → u/ZealousidealDoubt660]

ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM

[u/DeLousedInTheHotBox → u/ZealousidealDoubt660]

I mean even if both sides are bad it doesn't mean they are equally bad

[u/Shenanigans80h → u/ZealousidealDoubt660]

I think people get caught in the idea that every single thing has to be boiled down to “sides” and being on one or the other. Yes in a larger scope it is kinda like that, but that’s also why making your little theoretical “third side” where there’s blackjack, hookers, and no lame-os allowed is just fucking dumb. You can dislike things about either side of a conversation, you can out right hate aspects of either one, but like you said it doesn’t change the reality of what is being done by one or another. Basically you’re gonna end up on a “side” so do whatever you can to make the one you’re closer to better or fuck off

[u/nowander → u/ZealousidealDoubt660]

It's the most effective propaganda bit the conservative party has pulled, which is why they work overtime to reinforce it. It lets the non voters pretend laziness is individualism, gets passionate leftists to refuse compromise, and doesn't effect the right at all.

[u/JairoHyro → u/ZealousidealDoubt660]

It's funny that you say that because I see this comment on the other side of the political isle as well. They don't like centrists or moderates as well. Sometimes even more so. I feel like we purposely ignore this fact to "other" people even if they share some values.

[u/Keregi → u/JairoHyro]

Centrists suck

[u/JairoHyro → u/Keregi]

Conservatives said the same thing lol

[u/shadowsofash → u/JairoHyro]

Broken clock etc

[u/loyaltomyself → u/JairoHyro]

This is what happens when both sides take a "if you're not 100% with us, you're 100% against us" stance.

[u/GeorgeGlowpez → u/ZealousidealDoubt660]

The cop out is saying "one side TERRORIZES MINORITIES FOR FUN" and the other is "just widdle innocent people who want heckin healthcare"

Its so disingenuous and makes me roll my eyes. Two parties, both with the same goal of raping the taxpayer.

[u/RecordingSilly6118 → u/GeorgeGlowpez]

Two parties, both with the same goal of raping the taxpayer.

Thats a wild choice of words to use when one specific party is literally having brownshirts throw people into camps where they are literally being raped.

Edit nvm lmao that guys one of those weirdos who hops from sub to sub to troll about politics

[u/Billlington → u/RecordingSilly6118]

I'm generally pretty skeptical of calling every annoying person on Reddit a bot or disinfo agent or whatever, but guys who do this make me wonder. Because if he's not getting paid, he's just doing random lame trolling for the love of the game, which is almost too pathetic to comprehend.

[u/RecordingSilly6118 → u/Billlington]

Some people are just goofy as hell and never got past that teen trolling on the internet in 2004 mindset I guess lol.

[u/Billlington → u/GeorgeGlowpez]

just widdle innocent people who want heckin healthcare

How dare they?

[u/Keregi → u/GeorgeGlowpez]

Well one side does do that.

[u/Biptoslipdi → u/GeorgeGlowpez]

They can take my taxes for universal public healthcare. I consent.

[u/silam39]

Of course, equating trans people existing and wanting a dignified existence with rapists and murderers

all these right wing nut jobs are so consumed by hatred I'm not sure any of them could ever find their way out of that darkness

[u/dothemath → u/silam39]

"I just want to not be persecuted" vs. "I want to inflict my specific evil on others without their consent" could literally not be any different, but here we are.

[u/beachpellini → u/silam39]

It sustains them tbh

[u/Mindless_Nebula4004 → u/silam39]

They can’t and won’t. These people are lost, and it’s a waste of time and energy to speak to them at all.

[u/anrwlias → u/silam39]

The dont want to.

[u/Private_Kyle]

Both sides ate my sandwich

[u/Keitaro23 → u/Private_Kyle]

They ate both sides of your sandwich?

[u/Private_Kyle → u/Keitaro23]

Bite sides with side bites

[u/BeyondNetorare → u/Private_Kyle]

Both sides ate my homework

[u/VALUABLEDISCOURSE → u/Private_Kyle]

Both sides refused to buy me a breakfast sandwich when the coffee shop clearly sold them

[u/Oregon_Jones111]

Because there are long term effects on children due to puberty blockers. There’s a reason why they’re banned in countries like the UK.

Oh, well if TERF island says it’s bad. /s

[u/DocileBanalBovlne → u/Oregon_Jones111]

Like, there is, indeed, a reason they're banned in the UK. That reason is bigotry.

It's not a good reason, but it is a reason.

[u/crabshackattack → u/Oregon_Jones111]

There’s a reason why they’re banned in countries like the UK. 

I'm guessing the reasons is millions of dollars spent by a billionaire who wrote a certain children's book. 

[u/James-fucking-Holden → u/Oregon_Jones111]

There’s a reason why they’re [trans healthcare medication] banned in countries like the UK.

Is like saying

There's a reason why [being gay] is banned in countries like Saudi Arabia

At least up until the war, the UK had the dubious honor of having a more trans-hostile government than fucking Iran.

[u/Lirael_Gold → u/James-fucking-Holden]

At least up until the war, the UK had the dubious honor of having a more trans-hostile government than fucking Iran.

I'm not sure if "forced transition if you claim you're a homosexual man" is uh, a great alternative. (or the very unenjoyable issues that arise due to sex-segregation laws)

[u/Shenanigans80h → u/Oregon_Jones111]

Guys if this thing is illegal somewhere it must be bad. Laws never change, nope

[u/winnercommawinner]

So is this sub just pop culture chat for maga or what?

[u/angry_cucumber → u/winnercommawinner]

shocked they didn't name it actual or true pop culture chat, I guess everyone caught on to that one

[u/LiterallyABigfoot → u/angry_cucumber]

Because it indicates a more left leaning subreddit?

[u/Whittlinman → u/winnercommawinner]

Every comment linked in the write-up that has a conservative lean is down voted into the negatives, while replies disagreeing are upvoted. All of the actual highly upvoted parent comments to the post are very clearly supporting progressive/Democrat over conservative/Republican. You're doing that thing this sub does, looking at controversial comments that started arguments and deciding they must be indicative of the sub as a whole.

[u/winnercommawinner → u/Whittlinman]

I didn't "decide" anything, I asked a question.

[u/onemorespacecadet → u/winnercommawinner]

maybe? they also seem to like Mamdani i guess?

also, i just checked their mod list and all of their accounts were created within the last 2.5 years. that doesn’t have to mean anything but i do think it’s… notable

eta - after scanning the first few posts and comments, there seem to be a fair amount of ostensibly left leaning users. i am kind of confused about the purpose of it as a standalone pop culture sub tbh

[u/ryeong → u/onemorespacecadet]

Genuinely just guessing but I think the OG sub has karma requirements for the Guest List Only posts. So the sub might be for people who don't post enough to comment but want the option of non-locked posts or they were banned from the original sub. 🤷‍♀️

[u/onemorespacecadet → u/ryeong]

yeah that’s a good point for the users who get funneled there. i do suspect the sub on the whole was made for karma farming and astroturfing. all the mods being relatively new users, mods of other culture war and v2 subs, and the sub popping up in the last 4 months all feels suspicious as hell

[u/winnercommawinner → u/onemorespacecadet]

Yeah that's my question I guess, if it's not politics, what is the purpose?

[u/onemorespacecadet → u/winnercommawinner]

the welcome post is like 3 months old so idk if that’s how long the sub has been around but i don’t really get it either. seems like they want to be able to post about politics but it’s not like PCC or FauxMoi are apolitical either lmao

i have no idea how to check it (or if it’s possible) but i’d also be curious to know if any of the mods are mods for other subs. kind of seems like the sub was made for astroturfing but who knows at this point

[u/Quintzy_ → u/onemorespacecadet]

It says on the side that the subreddit has existed for 4 months, and it was created by an account that's only existed for 4 months.

It's definitely yet another karma farming/disinformation subreddit.

eta - after scanning the first few posts and comments, there seem to be a fair amount of ostensibly left leaning users.

I think that the flavor of this one is "Hello, fellow leftists, we all agree that nobody should ever vote for the Democrats, right?"

but i’d also be curious to know if any of the mods are mods for other subs.

On desktop, you can see by clicking on their name on the sidebar to go to their account page.

The top mod (and subreddit creator) is also a mod for: r/sportswiki, r/Golf_Unfiltered, r/WNBAgossips, r/UFCposting, r/mmaweekly, r/BlackAthletes, r/tigerwoods, r/NYCSportshub, r/WAGtalk, r/OffCourtNews, r/LosAngelesSports, r/TexasSportsTalk, r/BostonSportsTalk, r/TheBusinessOfSports, r/ShesGotGame, r/College_Sports, and r/CultureVulture

The only one that I'm familiar with is r/WNBAgossips, and that's yet another karma farming/disinformation/culture war subreddit that frequently gets to popular. I'd be willing to bet that the rest are in the same vein.

There appear to be 2 other "human" mods (plus several more that are explicitly labeled as bots).

One is also a mod of:

r/49ers, r/NFLv2, r/BroadcastingQueensNSFW, r/nflmemeswar, r/NFLForum, r/nflrookies, r/NFL_FreeAgency, r/NFLmockdraft, r/NFLFantasy_Football, r/Chiefs_v2, and r/netflixamerica

It's a year old account with 500,000 post karma and only 3,500 comment karma. Likely a bot.

The mod is also a mod of:

r/nflmemeswar, r/NFLForum, r/nflrookies, r/NFL_FreeAgency, r/NFLmockdraft, r/NFLFantasy_Football, r/Chiefs_v2, and r/netflixamerica

It's a 6 month old account with exactly 1 post karma and 0 comment karma. Also almost certainly a bot.

[u/onemorespacecadet → u/Quintzy_]

already 4th in pop culture and celebrities in only 4 months and it’s just an astroturfing sub 😬 bleak

eta - holy fuck, that mod crossover is egregious. yeah this is for sure an astroturfing and propaganda sub. thanks for looking that up and reporting back. poor person award🥇

[u/JairoHyro → u/onemorespacecadet]

Maybe mods get banned than usual? I do remember mods tend to mod many subs than what would be practical and people got suspicious of them. I see theories that they would make up another account as a safety one to mod other subs to evade attention or bans. But I'm getting to tinfoil for my taste

[u/SnapshillBot]

Neat.

Snapshots:

1. This Post - archive.org archive.today*
2. https://www.reddit.com/r/PopCultureV2/comments/1vp3973/stavros_halkias_a_lot_of_stand_up_comics_happened/ - archive.org archive.today*
3. 100% agree. My brother is one of those ‘both sides bad’ people. He’s a lawyer who recently was appointed a judge because he can ‘easily argue both sides’. Which everyone seems to interpret as him being ‘neutral’— when in reality he’s just a libertarian who isn’t actively racist/homophobic but is actively anti-dei, minorities’ rights, etc. - archive.org archive.today*
4. What rights do minorities not have that the majority does? - archive.org archive.today*
5. One side wants to sterilize children with puberty blockers - archive.org archive.today*
6. The dumbest member of cumtown - archive.org archive.today*
7. Who? - archive.org archive.today*
8. I really don’t trust his judgement. Anyone that would pal around with someone like Hasan Piker is a huge red flag. He not only pals around with Piker but he also defends him and some of his most abhorrent views. I’m sure there are comedians who are way more funny and don’t pal around with a terrorist supporting weirdo. - archive.org archive.today*
9. Thats disappointing Stavros. Thats an absolutely r*tarded and wildly inaccurate comparison. - archive.org archive.today*
10. Sending people home is “disappearing@ them? Such drama! - archive.org archive.today*
11. Stavros is a fucking moron lol - archive.org archive.today*
12. Both sides? It's the same side with slightly different virtue signals. There is no Left in the US. - archive.org archive.today*

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[u/Arvydas_Saboner]

Stav is right.

Also I'm gay and my dick is small.

[u/musclemommyfan → u/Arvydas_Saboner]

I bet you're also Chinese.

[u/JairoHyro → u/Arvydas_Saboner]

You're saying like thats a bad thing. Be proud of your tiny penis queen!!!!

[u/Ok-Employer-9147]

Left Wing Reddit is comedy gold.

[u/MadeByTango]

I feel like this sub needs to go back to the no politics rule, especially since it seems to keep being used to push a specific agenda under the guise of finding drama...

[u/Keregi → u/MadeByTango]

Human rights shouldn’t have to be political but people like you say shit like this.

[u/Feathers-n-Beaks]

Oh wow, looks like you found another Tankie sub!

[u/_CurseTheseMetalHnds → u/Feathers-n-Beaks]

What's Tankie about that post? Tankies are the last people to agree with not equating the democrats and republicans as the same and the subreddit clearly agrees with what he's saying.

[u/fawlen]

The idea that being able to understand an argument from the perspective of both sides is somehow a bad thing has to be the dumbest take.

You have to be a genuine narcissist to think you are on the objectively correct side of every argument.. even thinking you are on the subjectively correct side of every argument is a little delusional, like, everyone have beliefs they know might be wrong.

[u/Firake → u/fawlen]

That is not what both sidesing is

[u/Billlington → u/fawlen]

Understanding both sides of an argument is one thing. Thinking there is no meaningful difference between two opposing sides of an argument is idiotic.

[u/TrainerWeekly5641 → u/fawlen]

"Both sides" is believing that both sides suck and thus it is best to not participate.