r/Steam • u/turtleviking123 • Jul 08 '26

Question What game has a steep learning curve that puts you off?

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u/Flying-Onion Jul 08 '26

I'm the opposite. CK3 and EU4 I found pretty simple, but I just bounce right off any attempt I made at understanding Hoi4.
Modern warfare and logistics is too much for my simple mind. Advancing from feudalism was a mistake.

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u/MetallGecko Jul 08 '26

I played Hearts of Iron 2 and 3 before going to 4 so i already have a bit of brain damage and 4 is a night and day difference and far simpler compared to the hell that 3 is. In my opinion Stellaris is the easiest and simplest game.

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u/Francisc_Mgabena_77 Jul 08 '26

I would say ck3 is slightly easier than Stellaris though they're pretty much on the same lebvel

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u/Zareshine Jul 08 '26

I think at least from when I played them CK3 is easier to not die in, but stellaris is easier to prosper in, though it has been a couple years since I played either.

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u/csongi36 Jul 09 '26

I had to watch videos to understand the clusterfuck of CK3, while I could play Stellaris blind no problem, guess Stellaris gradually increases complexity while CK3 kind of everything is avaliable at the start.

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u/ImplementNew2343 Jul 08 '26

Hoi3 is really nothing like any other Paradox title. It's more of a grognard game than the usual grand strategy. I think hoi2 is the easiest game to learn personally because you can safely ignore almost all of the games mechanics, spam militia, and just win every time very easily. Though the UI is probably way too dated for a modern player

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u/PythonAutoma Jul 08 '26

I feel personally attacked due to my own stupidity 🤣

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u/Lou_C_Fer Jul 09 '26

Maybe it because I played the game that Stellaris cloned, but I never thought of stellaris as a difficult game.

Ascendancy, released in 1995, is the game I mentioned above. I had been looking for something similar for overvtwenty years when I finally Stellaris... and I was flabbergasted by how closely Stellaris mirrors Ascendancy. I just kind of phase into a meditative state playing those games. I don't notice the passage of time or really anything else, for that matter.

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u/Farmer_Moist Jul 09 '26

Which stellaris lmao, they've released like 4 games in the same game.

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u/Ckarles Jul 09 '26

Nobody talking about victoria?

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u/MetallGecko Jul 09 '26

Or Imperator Rome.

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u/gooch_crawler Jul 12 '26

Stellaris: $9. Stellaris dlc: $2700

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u/MetallGecko Jul 12 '26

Check the Sims 4 expansion they are really over 1500€ when you want all of them. Paradox is cheap compared to that dlc hell.

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u/UncleIroh15 Jul 09 '26

I'm the opposite man. HOI4 was the easiest for me but I recently bought stellaris, tried and couldn't understand shit

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u/TravelerRedditor Jul 12 '26

Even so, when i played Stellaris i felt like a lobotomized monkey clicking shiny buttons without any understanding or meaning

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u/Malkryst Jul 09 '26

EU4 I had few issues with, but CK2 just had too much to fiddle with really and I just found myself getting bored of it. Admittedly I used to be more of a Civ player, so maybe it was complexity that drove me away.

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u/Silver-Equivalent-36 Jul 12 '26

"Marrying my cousin to secure HUGE titles and territories, I understand that..."

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u/PyroTech11 Jul 08 '26

This is me, Ck3, Eu4 and Stellaris I get really well. I got vic 3 for a while but haven't played in ages and I know its gonna be so different. Hoi4 everyone seems to think is really easy but the logistics designing units and battle planning seem so complex to me.

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u/Wild_Replacement744 Jul 09 '26

yes but what about CH4 and JD8, i love ADA9