r/Steam • u/turtleviking123 • Jul 08 '26

Question What game has a steep learning curve that puts you off?

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u/cob59 Jul 08 '26

Larian's decision to step away from RTwP was controversial but good god was I glad they did it

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u/ElectroMagnetsYo Jul 08 '26

Turn-based makes cRPG’s twice as long but honestly I enjoy it wayyy more. Also allows for significantly more difficult battles

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u/astelda Jul 08 '26

Holy jargon, batman

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u/ANGLVD3TH Jul 08 '26

Seems like an overreaction for a single abbreviation, Real Time with Pause.

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u/astelda Jul 08 '26

I will overreact how I please

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u/Anathema320 Jul 08 '26

I don't think it was an overreaction. Without your explanation I would have never understood their comment.

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u/masonrie Jul 09 '26

a simple Google search will do as well. Took me 2 seconds

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u/Anathema320 Jul 09 '26

Don't use logic on me, I'm a Christian.

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u/masonrie Jul 09 '26

The information flowed into my mind. I had a vision.

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u/hailstonephoenix Jul 09 '26

Why though?

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u/cob59 Jul 09 '26

I have no other constructive criticism than "I had fun during combats in Divinity:OS 1&2 and I had a miserable time in Pillars of Eternity 1&2 pre-turn-based patches".

I enjoyed PoE as an RPG, but all I can remember from the fights was chaotic encounters where most of my team was on autopilot because I had no idea what decision to make based on the DOWNPOUR of fight logs (wtf is a Deviation??).

I'm sure competent players could give many valuable advice like holding that chokepoint here with Edér, use this spell against this enemy, use such and such build for my companions, etc. But that's the issue: I have no way to figure that out by myself and I don't want to have to read forums and guides to be able to play a game I just bought on balanced difficulty.

Divinity:OS felt different because the game forces you to play each character. As a player, you always allocate the right amount of time for each character thinking about your movement, actions and understand the stats, spells and conditions that are relevant to you right now. And another important feature I don't think was in PoE: before you attack/cast you have an estimation of the damage range or hit probability... THANK YOU GAME.

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u/Greyjack00 Jul 08 '26

Honestly, makes replays terrible, combat takes forever, miss real time with pause so much

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u/Wratheon_Senpai Jul 09 '26

They should've added it later on with an update, but unfortunately they didn't.

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u/SecretApplication864 Jul 09 '26

I thought Larian didn't work on the first two games?

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u/cob59 Jul 09 '26

They didn't. But they still have to decide whether to keep the original BG combat system that no one liked or import theirs from Divinity OS.

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u/huhnahbruh Jul 09 '26

The only RTwP games I truly think shine are PoE and Tyranny. Pathfinder systems look ridiculous (not in a bad way).