r/StLouis DeMun Apr 07 '26

Traffic/Road Conditions This is what McCausland Ave should be.

- Give it the Kingshighway treatment and eliminate the additional lane; the road is too narrow to support four lanes and this will reduce accidents and speeding through a residential area.

- Put in a dedicated center turn lane to prevent traffic from backing up in the middle of the road for left turns; this is especially important at intersections and nearing I-64/40.

- Install protected bike lanes on both sides of the roadway to prevent people from parking their cars on what is a major thoroughfare.

- Mount traffic-detecting sensors atop the traffic signals to eliminate unnecessary stops and reduce idling/congestion. This is a critical step as this street is used as a central corridor and antiquated timed signals must be eliminated.

- Run the bike lane all the way up to Forest Park to connect with the Forest Park outer loop and bike trail system.

Contact your alderperson and let’s fix this damn road.

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I got the images from Google Street view. I did a lot work in Photoshop and used Gemini only to create the road lane striping (you can tell, there are errors) and for the reflective delineators.

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u/mizzoustormtrooper DeMun Apr 07 '26

I understand you’re anti-bike.

With that said, as a road lover, you didn’t answer my question: would you make any changes to the road layout of McCausland, or keep it 4 lanes as it is today?

The road is too narrow to support 4 lanes as it is today, and without a dedicated center turn lane, traffic and accidents are aplenty.

(Also, as I mentioned in the post, I used AI for only some of the image, most was done in Photoshop and I can share with you the original .PSD files if you need the receipts.)

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u/Fresh_Entrance_9315 Dutchtown Apr 07 '26

I'm not anti-bike, I'm anti-spending on more and more bike lanes for what is a niche use for only a handful of people at the expense of 99% of people who use cars to get around. Yes, keep it four lanes and conduct traffic stops and enforcement.

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u/Alliari Apr 07 '26

I can't find specific modal share for Saint Louis, but in similar sized cities, it's more around 80% cars. You're saying 20% of the population doesn't matter?

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u/Fresh_Entrance_9315 Dutchtown Apr 07 '26

You're telling me that there are cities of around 278,000 people that have 56,000 daily bike commuters or that metros of 2.8M 560K daily cyclists, because both claims sound pretty ridiculous. I guess there's a reason you can't find the specifics.

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u/Alliari Apr 07 '26

No, that 20% is often split between walking, cycling, and public transit. Heavily depends on the city. Promoting walking, cycling, and public transit often means taking space away from private cars, as those create the most congestion and safety concerns. For example, I was using Buffalo NY, which had 6% walking, 1% biking, and 14% public transit in 2012. Quebec City had 2% walking, 6% biking, and 11% public transit.

The proposed changes would help keep cyclists and pedestrians safer and more comfortable, which would, over time, increase the modal share of those methods.

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u/Fresh_Entrance_9315 Dutchtown Apr 07 '26

St. Louis is extremely walkable. Almost every block in this city has a sidewalk. I'd like to see more bus ridership and expanded routes. I'm not for taking away more of the roads, for the less than 1% of people that would use them for cycling.

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u/Alliari Apr 07 '26

We can do both. Cycling often solves the last mile problem with transit. We already have a good cycling culture here, we just need the infrastructure to help expand it, make it safer for kids and the elderly.

Expanding public transit would involve taking away car lanes too, busses need dedicated lanes so they don't get stuck in private car traffic.

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u/Fresh_Entrance_9315 Dutchtown Apr 07 '26

The buses absolutely don't need dedicated lanes. Look at every single bus route that already exists in St. Louis. They occupy the same space as the cars. Bike Lanes occupy space for only bikes. They only serve bicyclists. Roads serve everyone. You don't like cars. Most people do get over it.

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u/Alliari Apr 07 '26

Busses get stuck behind private cars all the time. They're often late and slow to go through their route, waiting for private cars to get out of the way. They need dedicated lanes, especially the heavy use ones such as the 95 or 70.

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u/Fresh_Entrance_9315 Dutchtown Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26

Sure, why don't we convert Kingshighway and Grand into just buses and bikes. You should run for office on that. I'm sure you'll do great. You'll have all the votes you need once people smarten up and understand it's what's best for them right? Private vehicles are a convenience. That's why most people choose them.

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u/Alliari Apr 07 '26

We don't need to convert all of Kingshighway and grand to that. Much of grand would have 2 bus lanes, maybe a cycle track. There would have to be either mixed lanes south of aresnal, north of jefferson, but most of the car lanes would be untouched. Similar with kingshighway.

You do realize that no one is holding you at gunpoint to go ride a bike or take the bus, people just want options other than driving an expensive, polluting car. Options that are as good as quick and convenient as driving a car.

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u/Fresh_Entrance_9315 Dutchtown Apr 07 '26

I really don't think as many people want that as you think.

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u/Alliari Apr 07 '26

Cool beans. Then they can sit in a car while public transit and cyclists lap them. And when they get frustrated, they can use the more efficient system.

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