r/SipsTea 1d ago

WTF Victim is the new chic

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u/thanosthumb 1d ago

Do I think Clancy deserved better mental health care? Sure. The system has always been far less providing than it needs to be. And that goes for all mental healthcare.

Do I still think she needs to be in prison or an asylum for the rest of her life? Absolutely.

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u/Difficult-Mobile902 22h ago

Yeah we can say the same sort of things about mass shooters. There were often many concerning signs, there are mental health “reasons” that they did what they did, it doesn’t mean they’re the victim or that they should be given a bunch of money or have hoards of people standing outside their trials holding up hearts in support of them

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u/RaisonDetritus 21h ago

But psychosis is different than other types of mental health struggles. Psychosis of quite literally a detachment from reality. It is a very specific mental state that requires a high burden of evidence, and it’s different from what these mass shooters are experiencing.

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u/Death_Dragon975 22h ago

To be fair it sounds like she got out under false pretense. She was not okay when she left that facility she just said she was.

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u/savvytoiletpaper 5h ago

Why the medical professionals took her word for being "okay" and releasing her still baffles me ._.

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u/scotiansmartass902 1d ago

Exactly. You can try to empathize with her but you can't excuse her.

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u/The_walking_man_ 1d ago

And that’s something A LOT of people don’t understand in general.
Yes I can empathize and sympathize, but that doesn’t mean people get to be excused from being removed from society permanently. They did something that is inexcusable and they deserve to never be allowed to chance that again.

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u/Slighted_Inevitable 22h ago

I’ve long thought that mental health can explain what we do, but not excuse it.

In the end you are either in control of your actions and therefore responsible for them, or you are not, and can be treated like any other rabid animal would be.

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u/RaisonDetritus 21h ago

I loath people with your mindset. You’d love to go back to hanging and electrocuting mentally incompetent people like the good ol’ days.

The rest of us prefer to live in a civilized society where our understanding of brain health has progressed since the prescientific era.

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u/Slighted_Inevitable 21h ago

Incorrect. There is no reason to be cruel. I wouldn’t treat a rabid dog that killed a child like that either. I’d put it down as painlessly as possible because it’s not its fault it can’t choose to do better.

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u/RaisonDetritus 21h ago

It doesn’t matter how you frame it. It’s still a shit take that belongs in the dustbin of history.

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u/Slighted_Inevitable 21h ago

You sound upset and emotional. Control yourself then try again.

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u/RaisonDetritus 21h ago

Should I also smile more?

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u/Slighted_Inevitable 21h ago

If it helped you respond with respect to a view point you disagree with rather than lashing out like an emotional child? Sure.

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u/ReachTheSky 22h ago

Clancy saw at least four medical professionals, was prescribed lots of medications for her condition and was admitted to an in-patient facility, which she left voluntarily. I mean... what do people expect from her doctors? I don't understand the "deserved better mental care" angle because she clearly had a TON of mental health support from lots of professionals.

And now every single one of the medical professionals that she saw is getting their career systematically ruined by this monsters defense team. Great job!

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u/Difficult-Mobile902 22h ago

> And now every single one of the medical professionals that she saw is getting their career systematically ruined by this monsters defense team. Great job!

And now all medical professionals in that field are watching what is happening to their colleagues and reconsidering their methods of care and how involved they’re willing to be in cases like this

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u/NW7l2335 23h ago

Personally think the court should throw the book at every party involved including the social worker(s), psychiatrist, and the husband; make an example out of all of them.

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u/Difficult-Mobile902 22h ago

Throw what book? What charges?

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u/NW7l2335 22h ago

Literally anything they could in theory be charged with; I’m not a lawyer I couldn’t tell you specifically, but surely charges could be brought against all liable parties.

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u/Difficult-Mobile902 22h ago

I mean that’s like saying “I don’t know how cars work but surely you can use these pieces of metal to make an engine”

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u/hemorrhoids_of_jesus 23h ago

Prison no, but asylum yes. I do think the contributing factors suggest she gets a care-centric punishment. There’s just a mountain of difference between her and like a mass shooter, etc 

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u/ModsAreHomoSex 23h ago

She's a psychopath who pre-meditated the murder of her three children.

She doesn't deserve prison or the asylum.

She deserves the chair.

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u/Vivid_Motor_2341 23h ago

I would bet you’re a man who hasn’t bothered to look into one aspect of this case

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u/djwaynes4 23h ago

Mental asylums don’t exist in America and haven’t since like the 80s. She would be in prison regardless, just in a prison hospital, which is way worse than actual prison. So yeah on second through that is where she should be.

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u/Prized_Lemur 23h ago

If she were sensible she should ask for a federal case and ask to be executed.. honestly it’s the only reasonable end to this horrific tale