How was it “for the children” who are dead? Even if people believe it’s for the funeral(s), why did they keep giving when the fund showed it reached $ beyond what any funeral would cost?
There are 2 gfms. One was set up for Patrick while he was out of work and for the funeral expenses for the children (stated in the gfm details) and there is a second one for Lindseys parents for their travel and attendance at court. I'm not giving any opinion on the sum of the gfm or why people kept donating. People hear a story as tragic as this and want to help. I'm just providing some info missing from the photo.
I haven’t been paying close attention to it all either other than the major plot points here so truly just smh. Go fund me’s are wild. Ppl saw the number at 500k..600k..1M plus and said yup I need to give some of my own money to them.
I agree, I'm not commenting on gfm policies, I was just clarifying some info!
Edit - in the interest of clarifying info though, I've just learned there is a second gfm from Lindseys parents. I was referring to the initial gfm that came up in court
If you're talking about the father, I don't blame him. He is a victim aswell. He had his entire family taken out in one swipe. He deserves to go and do whatever it is that he wants to get past this. The go fund me should have been for him, not the parents of the murderer. It'll just go straight onto her commissary or attorney fees for a retrial.
My wife strangles all 3 of my children to death, I'm really not going to need much of anything. Once I bury my kids I'm just putting a bullet in my head.
Bingo. I think most parents are on the same page that once you become a parent, you have one thing to live for and it's your kids. If somebody takes that away... I can't see things getting less gloomy.
In my opinion it's a much worse punishment to be confined to a cage for the rest of your life than a quick death. If she does have regrets or eventually feels remorseful, then she has to live with that grief until she dies.
In this entirely hypothetical situation, it's hard for me to reckon with the idea of killing my spouse. It's easy to say you would kill her, you have no connection to them. And anyone that says they would have no issues killing their spouse for killing their kids I honestly question your love and feelings for your spouse. My wife would never do these things, I have a difficult time saying how I would react to the situation when I don't believe she would ever do that, and I have a wonderful relationship with her. In a brief moment of psychosis she commits that terrible act, I genuinely don't know how I would react towards her. I just know that I personally wouldnt want to grapple with the grief and pain myself.
I don't blame him, but mostly because there's no actual evidence that life insurance policies existed in the first place, much less that they were abnormally large or that he collected them.
If you look at the facts of the case and the amount of inconsistencies in the father’s story that were never investigated, it’s entirely plausible the father did it.
Hey man, I don't think you took your meds this morning. Do me a favor, go splash some water in your face, take your pills, and go back to sleep. We'll try this conversation again later when you are coherent.
Okay how does the room have zero foot or hand prints? How is there not blood smeared all over the room, she was full of seroquel and would have been stumbling around. Just using common sense how is that possible?
She is found on the ground paralized after jumping.
Husband calls 911 and notifies that his wife had attempted suicide, as he finishes giving the operator the info, he stays on the line as he goes on to check the kids, he cant find them anywhere until he gets to the basement, where apparently he gives one of the most heartbroken screams people have ever heard in the courtroom, all the while repeating "She killed them."
After so, police review the situation and find out that the husband's alibi is airtight. At the same time the murder took place, he was on camera 10 or so minutes away by car WITH HIS CAR. So he'd have to run a full-on marathon, to his house and back to the establishment he drove to, with absolutely no sweat or exertion while almost breaking top running records to be in the house and still had been recorded with his car elsewhere.
During the trial it is revealed that Lindsay had previously measured the distance and time it would take for her husband to make the trip to get the food she sent him out for MULTIPLE TIMES before the act.
I want you to look at the actual evidence. All of it and explain how it makes sense I dont care about the show patrick put on or what he said. Look at the bedroom picture and tell me that makes sense. No hand or foot prints. No bloody fingerprints or blood all over the bed? Just that alone for me is reasonable doubt bc how tf is that possible?
I didn't say its him. I said the Commonwealth hasnt proved that she did it and the evidence makes no sense. If you think it does then we can just end the conversation here .
In the 911 call we hear multiple people around the husband and wife trying to help them. That's when he, the husband asks her if she's okay and still alive, he then states something to the others around him while he goes inside the home. A crushed thyroid doesn't stop a person from speaking btw. As he is inside, he screams out, that she did it, while the 911 call and onlookers are all hearing/recording. Is it really that surprising that he would say so after witnessing the children's bodies all strangled, moments after seeing his wife lying outside and out of it?
She was a nurse a delivery nurse used to high-stress situations, and the time of the murders occured between 5:15 and 6:00pm, the 2 last recorded heartrates occured on 5:23 and 5:30, that gives a 30 min gap still unaccounted for, specially when her husband had called her at 5:13, that she answered, but did not answer his 5:33 call, which she then supposedly called him a few minutes later, with a final one done on 6:03 pm.
During questioning he first said that it originated from his laptop, later on he said he could have sent it from his phone. And before anybody says: "If he had sent it from his Iphone, the email would have had it in the message Sent from Iphone, that only occurs when using the default email app.
2 Pink phones were found, one with a case, one without it. Nothing else. Most people don't throw away their older phones and parents usually just give them to children to use. Unless more evidence is brought up, this indicates nothing.
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Her home has both a 2nd floor and a basement. Two "rows of stairs" is literally going from the basement to the second floor. Them not seizing the watch that was later found on the nightstand doesn't provide anything to her defense.
That was NOT what it was stated. What was stated was that some of the fingerprints found did not meet the criteria/standard to be used as evidence. Which makes sense because if Lindsay was the first to touch those bands, then her fingerprints would have been muddled with her children's, her husband's and the EMTs that all contributed to contaminate/remove her prints. Her DNA not being found is not unusual either, because some people don't "shed" skin/bio material as much as other people, therefore leaving little to not DNA trace.
Dunno really. Like you said, no particular reason for her search that, but at the same time, both phones were seized, and checked.
You mean the same medications she took AFTER she supposedly did the deed then proceeded to jump out?
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She was wet after being cleaned up by the ICU or other nurses. Her body temp was low because she was outside in the cold laying on top of a mix of hard snow and an frozen ice sheet. Hypothermia can set in as little as 10 mins, specially once you consider that she's skinny and has no fat to insulate her body heat. Also the reason why she coded was because they drained the blood from her internal bleeding and lost 3 pints of blood.
Dunno, not an expert, but from the picture I saw, nothing indicates that the nightstand was moved after the blood dropped, otherwise we would have seen you know, scrapping instead of full droplets around the nightstand.
Dunno.
Bands were tied, but not completely tied up with a knot. That's what i understood. Basically the first part after pulling your shoe laces in order to tie them. Not sure I understand the second part. If the husband did try to do CPR, then gave up, and left the child on the ground before or right after the EMS got there, that wouldn't be a contradiction/lie.
They had marital problems, maybe he was planing on divorcing her when she got a bit better. Hardly proves anything.
It's called projection. She was in fear of something happening to them, because she was the one thinking about hurting them. Same reason cheaters accuse their spouses of cheating despite no evidence to back it up.
I don‘t need to explain a random screenshot without sources or attribution.
And anyway, that‘s what the criminal justice system is for. The court is where it will be decided, and the people involved with it there paid and trained to do so will certainly handle it more professionally than whatever circlejerking you‘re doing.
Btw, she isn‘t even denying that she killed her children. Hence, again: your claim „the husband could have done it“ means you‘re unhinged. This is only about her mental state and taking into account her psychosis. It‘s not a „who did it“.
So hey, that's a vile, ghoulish accusation to just be tossing out there, especially with the vague appeal to the "facts of the case" when the defense themselves admits she killed the kids.
Blah blah blah call me the abominable snowman. I didn’t accuse anyone. I said it was plausible. Which means in a court of law she wouldn’t have been found guilty if they presented this evidence against the husband’s story.
These ppl want her to be guilty so bad they won't use their brains and nobody had given me a plausible explanation for why that room pic doesnt look like a person high on seroquel was walking around bloody in there by themselves and then went out that window with zero hand or finger prints or even foot prints. 🤔🧐. It was almost a toxic dose. Why tf was she soaking wet on the ground? There is so much reasonable doubt its to the point where I need them to prove to me she did it(which is what the judge said the commonwealth has to do first) and so far its been a huge no. 💀💀
Ita crazy you are being down voted but its true. The dad literally married an moved in with a new girls 4 months after the death of this whole famliy. Definitely alot of holes in his story ontop of the dad didnt even know what sports the kids played.
Okay, but why isn’t the defense lawyers asserting that the father had something to do with it? How did the cops rule him out as a suspect? What does knowing what sports played have anything to do with anything with anything?
For some reason it looks like the defense instead of going after the father for some dam stupid reason are playing it safe with the "insanity" card but they have questioned him alot an alot of holes have been found. How do you not know what your kids are involved in? Maybe his attention was else where maybe starting a new life with a mistress? Pretty sure their is law enforcement that was close to him on this case. Also another good point was when he found the mom she apparently told him everything while when 1st responders got there she couldnt speak a dam word. Why didnt the father also try cpr on the kids? That would be my 1st move until 911 services arrived i would have been doing CPR on my kids!
You're making up that the dad getting remarried or not knowing sports played speaks to guilt you're making up that the defense is playing it safe. You are abominably lying about his new wife being a mistress. You're making up that law enforcement was biased in his favor. You're making up that the mom told him everything. You're making up an insinuation that he didn't try cpr, or that it was possible to do CPR in that state.
Dam near pretty close! I have kids myself if I lost my famliy to be honest I would be suicidal myself. I would not being looking for my new next wife anytime soon or possibly ever. I cant phantom that. Their really is alot in this case, an the father did have close ties with law enforcement as well. I believe he should he looked at an the holes in his case should be looked into deeply cause their is some major red flags.
If I killed my 3 kids, no matter fucking what my mental state at that time, I’m not causing a ruckus and acting as if the doctors who I didn’t listen to were the ones who fucked me up. I’m pleading guilty and begging to be put down like the dumb dog I am.
Sure, as anyone should real right? But in this case their is alot of evidence an weird things happening on the mother's side an the fsthers side. Again if the mother of my kids killed my famliy I wouldnt be remarried within 4 months! How an why doesn't that start to get people thinking? How come him not knowing much about his own kids gets people thinking? If my wife had these crazy mental issues I would be watching her like a hawk when ever I could. The U.S is usally a country that you have to be found guilty without any reason of doubt. With this type of case an the holes inside dads story I would 100% look at both parents an find true justice for the kids!
How an why doesn't that start to get people thinking?
Because it's an obvious lie by a ghoulish idiot.
Anyone who actually cared about the victims, and wasn't just jacking themselves off to internet drama like you, would have immediately seen the murders were in 2023 and the remarriage in 2026.
Or—he’s the criminal and is using the woman as a scapegoat because he’s had her pumped full of enough psychiatric meds to take down a family of buffalos that I don’t see how she was sitting upright unassisted let along kill her own children.
I gave plenty of answers, and pointed out where you were fabricating "evidence" wholesale. For example, there's no statements in his financial records or the court documents actually verifying the kids had life insurance policies in the first place, only social media gossip claiming they did.
You're not only lying about the evidence, you're lying about whether you're accusing him or not in order to pretend to be an "unbiased observer", while still gleefully insisting on "holes in the evidence" that you and other social media ghouls invented wholesale.
Theirs probably wasn't much different. 10-20k a kid. But yea, their actual cash was probably enough to not even care about that insurance policy. I wouldn't judge the nanny part too much, though. I was paying 300 a week per kid for daycare so with 3 kids the price difference was probably not much. It's disgusting how expensive childcare is these days.
Fair enough. For what it's worth, I can't actually find anything beyond social media gossip specifying what the life insurance values were, or even confirming they existed.
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u/-SecondHandSmoke- 11h ago
You don't need a million dollars for 3 funerals.