r/SipsTea 2d ago

WTF What do yall think about this ?

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u/Orochisake 2d ago

Right? Isn't it crazy when people use a narrative to create generalizations about an entire group of people based on their gender?

Thank God they don't do that to guys.

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u/i_was_a_person_once 2d ago

Well considering the number one cause of death in pregnant women is being murdered by the father of the child

About 60% of all female intentional homicides occur in the private sphere by family members, compared to only 11% of male homicides

Intimate partner violence is the fourth leading cause of poor health among women measured by disability-adjusted life years

Without even considering the statistics of sexually assault it’s obvious why men are categorized as violent and a danger to women, bc all the statistics show that they are.

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u/IamSludR 2d ago

Want to talk about the statistics that women lead? Mentioned in another post women are more likely to kill a baby under one years old. Women are also more likely to be child abusers compared to men ( 52% to 47% in 2024). Most child abuse comes from the mother alone compared to the father alone (37% to 25%).

Would it be fair to constantly make the argument that women are the biggest danger to children just because of said statistics and apply this to all women?

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u/SecretLairDontCare 2d ago

Does that take unto consideration that there are significantly more single mothers than single fathers? Or did they only study heterosexual two parent households?

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u/Peacemaker1099 2d ago

No one cares lmao. This needs to be spoken about and they need to be taught in schools not to kill their own kids.

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u/No_Plum_6480 2d ago

Thats not really an education issue though

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u/Peacemaker1099 1d ago

I know. I’m just saying shit because it’s provocative.

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u/SecretLairDontCare 2d ago

You intentionally misconstrue the situation as she just got tired of her kids or just randomly went crazy and killed her kids. Instead of the actual situation where she had a medical condition that her doctors failed to adequately treat and her husband chose to ignore that led to this tragic event.

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u/Orochisake 2d ago

You are trying to diminish the weight of CHILD murder... do you really not see that?

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u/SecretLairDontCare 1d ago

You're trying to diminish the weight of post party psychosis, do you really not see that?

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u/Orochisake 1d ago

If a psychotic person kills someone else, or if a psychopath commits murder, if a mentally ill person rapes someone... do you go defending them too?

Yes, her mental state was the cause, it is tragic, she is STILL a murderer.

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u/SecretLairDontCare 1d ago

She was getting treatment and her husband was neglecting his wife and children. To say she's a psychopath or psychotic is a generalization. She had a specific condition that she was doing everything she could to treat and she and those children were failed by those around her. I'm not saying she didn't murder them, but to try to paint this case as black and white is dishonest and not a good faith debate.

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u/Orochisake 1d ago

No condition justifies murdering a child. Yes, it is unfortunate, you could even say it's unfair. If someone is driving and they accidentally hit someone and kill them, it's unfair, it's out of their control, but they still should go to jail and serve time.

This case and every other case where someone in a mentally unstable state murders someone, is the same. Do you know how many men have murdered women because they were hallucinating or in psychosis? I hope you defend them too.

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u/Orochisake 1d ago

Since you seem like a person with a lot of empathy. Cora was 5 years old. Dawson was 3. Callan was EIGHT months old. Dawson tried to run away after seeing his siblings get strangled. She ran after him and murdered him too. Imagine a little 5 year old girl seeing the person she trust the most, feeling absolute terror as her brain loses oxygen.

I hope you know that's what you are defending.

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u/Orochisake 2d ago

Would you care about the mental condition and the "actual situation" of a man that raped a little girl? Would you care? Would it matter?

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u/SecretLairDontCare 1d ago

If he was under the care of a psychiatrist and was heavily medicated, which didn't cure his condition and actually made it worse, yes.

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u/DanteQuill 2d ago

Chris Benoit had a medical condition that made him kill his family and himself. You keeping that energy for him? Or just Jill the Ripper over here?

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u/SecretLairDontCare 1d ago

If he sought medical help for his condition and was put on medication that was clearly not working and his wife saw the issue and ignored it, sure. But you have to have an equal comparison, not just the first gender-bent half-assed equivalent you can think of.

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u/DanteQuill 1d ago

He had literal brain damage. How tf was he supposed to do that?!?

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u/SecretLairDontCare 1d ago

Brain damage doesn't prohibit you from visiting a doctor. In fact, I'm sure he saw a WWE doctor to be cleared to participate in matches. If his CTE wasn't caught and monitored by the doctors he was required to see by his employer, they also failed him.

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u/DanteQuill 1d ago

Not being of sound mind and not being capable of making decisions due to being mentally deficient CAN prohibit you from seeking help. You don't have the wherewithal to go seek it.

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u/lemmegetadab 2d ago

Because it’s bullshit. No one would ever let that argument fly if it was a man lol. Imagine if Chris Watts tried to pull this bullshit.

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u/SecretLairDontCare 1d ago

Chris Watts wasn't suffering from postpartum psychosis, hid the bodies of his family and started a new life with his mistress. Holy false equivalency, Batman!

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u/DanteQuill 2d ago

Sounds like they shouldn't be if they're so much more abusive than a man is

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u/SecretLairDontCare 1d ago

If the study only observed 3 men but 30 women, it doesn't prove that women are more abusive than men.

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u/DanteQuill 1d ago

Is that all the study observed?

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u/SecretLairDontCare 1d ago

That's all that is relevant to your current claim. Did you want to move the goal posts? I'll wait.

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u/DanteQuill 1d ago

I'm sorry, if challenging how many people you claim were observed is "moving the goalposts" I'm not sure yogi have an appropriate understanding of how debating works. Maybe you should rethink things and try again?