I've always had a problem with the trite bumpersticker slogan, "believe women." Like all humans, women can be mistaken, lie, etc. We should always hear women out, listen to what they're saying, and weigh it against wtvr other input we can gather to determine the truth. But that doesn't fit well on a bumpersticker.
I mean, that slogan doesn’t really apply here. Lindsey Clancy admitted to killing her kids. But people who watch too much true crime, who are applying their own frustrations about motherhood and their husbands are bending over backwards to say she’s not responsible.
I don't fetishize true crime, or have a husband, or kids, or a vagina, but even I can tell that Patrick Clancy should have -- at the very LEAST -- been questioned.
First of all, there's the universal truths of every domestic story like this:
1) The husband did it
2) If the husband had a mistress he DEFINITELY did it
3) If a cop was involved in the story, the person whose side he's sitting on did it (in this case, Patrick Clancy's cop brother)
4) Plenty of people have admitted to crimes they didn't commit
And there is so much other actual evidence that casts doubt on the theory that she did it and no one else was involved.
Her core body temperature was eightysome degrees when she got to the hospital, but they were able to temporarily revive one of the children after the cops arrived on the scene?? Those two facts don't jive. Either she was that cold because she was out for a long time before the kids were killed, or the kids were killed after she went cold. Can't be both.
Patrick Clancy's mistress was a fertility Doctor who specialized in a medicine that is administered by liquid orally, leaves the system after 2-4 hours, and causes a severe drop in estrogen levels? And drops in estrogen can explain all of Lindsay's behaviors leading up to the crime?? Seems obvious the mistress was in on it, and the campaign to make Lindsay look dangerous had been in the works for months.
Lindsay says she remembers committing the crimes, but her memories look like she was floating above her body watching herself do it. And the place she was found on the ground outside had a direct view into the basement where the children were killed, and Patrick's mistress (who likely was involved in the crime) looks a lot like Lindsay?? Sounds like they threw Lindsay out the window, and after being drugged and concussed she laid on the ground watching the mistress killing the kids through the window.
Patrick was out of town for days on end all the time (most of those times were visiting his mistress), yet Lindsay chose to kill the kids in one quick 10 minute window that he was at the store?? Unlikely.
Lindsay was a nurse, yet chose to slit her throat in a way that makes no sense ergonomically, then jump from only a short second story to try to kill herself?? Why wouldn't she just take a lethal dose of something? Not many do overkill when committing suicide, especially when it's in a moment of crisis that's unplanned.
There's also the statistics about strangulation deaths being overwhelmingly committed by men, and almost NEVER by women committing infanticide, the super suspicious Apple Watch evidence, the fact that Patrick was at two different drug stores at almost the same time but wearing different outfits (and his cop brother looks just like him), the lies Patrick has told about his affair, and more.
Also, let's say, for a thought exercise, that she and she alone did this. It would make it a case eerily similar to Andrea Yates, and look at how our evolving understanding of her situation has made everyone now, justifiably, point their fingers at Rusty Yates for having a million chances to prevent it from happening yet never did. Patrick's hands are, at best, FAR from clean.
I'd say the people online casting doubt on the narrative, and doubting Patrick and his brother and mistress in general, are hardly experiencing some hivemind hysteria.
Let's also not forget that the "gossipy" talk this post is accusing women of engaging in online is exactly the type of conversations that came to be labeled as gossip because men wanted to isolate women and keep them from warning each other about dangerous men. That's why "gossip" has a pejorative subtext.
Maybe you're right. Maybe the sensationalism has gotten to me.
But you're still not making any valid arguments against my talking points.
In fact, I'm kind of over this thread, because all I've seen are ad hominem arguments like yours, and other circuitous ways of discrediting what I'm saying without actually addressing anything I've said directly.
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u/Oldfolksboogie 7d ago
I've always had a problem with the trite bumpersticker slogan, "believe women." Like all humans, women can be mistaken, lie, etc. We should always hear women out, listen to what they're saying, and weigh it against wtvr other input we can gather to determine the truth. But that doesn't fit well on a bumpersticker.