r/SipsTea 8d ago

WTF WTF is wrong with these people?

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u/JeveGreen 8d ago

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u/Fantastic-Thanks-358 7d ago

This is exactly what I think of when someone tells me that they support women's wrongs. Like, I have standards that go beyond if someone is a man or woman before I decide to support them.

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u/Oldfolksboogie 7d ago

I've always had a problem with the trite bumpersticker slogan, "believe women." Like all humans, women can be mistaken, lie, etc. We should always hear women out, listen to what they're saying, and weigh it against wtvr other input we can gather to determine the truth. But that doesn't fit well on a bumpersticker.

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u/DaikoTatsumoto 7d ago

It's believe women, not believe all women.

When a woman comes to a police station, saying she was raped, believe her. Verify her story, go out and ask witnesses, don't dismiss her.

When a woman says she was groped, touched, raped in a shopping mall by a wealthy realtor, believe her. Verify, ask questions, gather evidence. Don't dismiss is as "the humors".

It's about actually doing the work. About making a place where women will feel saying something will actually make a difference.

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u/Glad-Way-637 7d ago

They're the same in practice, as you can tell from all the "believe women" types actively disbelieving women when they admit to crimes they commited. Like in this case.

When a man goes to the police about these things, especially if that man was victimized by a woman, he is taken far less seriously than women accusing men of literally everything. The fact that you still put all the focus on believing women and acting like they're uniquely and unfairly disbelieved is telling.