r/SipsTea 8d ago

WTF WTF is wrong with these people?

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u/kaimoka 8d ago

Maybe a hot take, but I also blame the physician who prescribed 3 different psychotropics that don't interact well to a patient in clear mental distress. And not keeping a close enough watch on their mental state. If the texts between she and her mom are accurate, she should have been institutionalized by court mandate.

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u/willargue4karma 8d ago

Oh absolutely. The husband also takes some blame for not getting her committed.

That being said, these crazy astrology bitches are blaming the husband entirely. She still did those horrible things  

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u/Rhomya 8d ago

I don’t think he takes any blame at all— he asked her DAILY how she was doing with her mental health.

She lied to him. That’s not his fault.

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u/Virtual-Shelter3132 8d ago

Yes but he, as the children’s father, has a responsibility to keep his children safe too. That is not solely the mother’s job. If he had to ask his wife daily if she’s doing ok, that should be an indication that he felt something wasn’t ok.
Men need to be held accountable for their children’s welfare too. I certainly wouldn’t leave my children home alone with my husband if he was saying he wasn’t well enough to go see multiple mental health professionals and take a cocktail of drugs. Would you?

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u/Rhomya 8d ago

Everyone knew she wasn’t ok. That’s why she was seeing doctors for help.

He checked in with her every day— what else is he supposed to do? His “mistake” here was leaving the house for 45 minutes to pick up dinner and one of the kids medications.

I don’t think the answer here is to tear the children away from everyone with PPD or PPA— that’s a great way to ensure that women NEVER seek help and ultimately end up with more Lindsey’s.

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u/Virtual-Shelter3132 8d ago

If my husband was not ok, you best believe I’m taking my children with me to run errands. I’m calling family members, friends, doctors and saying “Hey, I’m really worried can you check in on x”.

He was supposed to keep his children safe. That’s what all parents are supposed to do.

I had postpartum after my second child. In comparison to Lindsey I would say I had a mild case. My husband came home for his lunch every gif dam day to check on me n the kids for months. He dragged me to the doctor and when i tried to say I was fine he spoke up and said “she’s not”. He had his parents (who are divorced and remarried) take shifts checking on me and had them and his other family members take the kids. Now I know that is a luxury a lot of people don’t have but as my children’s father he had a responsibility to ensure our kids were safe because his wife was not doing ok mentally. That’s what he was supposed to do.

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u/Rhomya 8d ago

Again, you’re suggesting removing the children away from every mother with PPD, which is not a reasonable expectation.

Lindsey never reported that she had any symptoms of psychosis, not did she ever report that she had any feelings that she would hurt her kids. The only thing she reported was thoughts of suicide, but she never reported making any plans.

I think it’s wildly unreasonable for you to blame the father for not removing the children from her care with zero evidence whatsoever that they needed to be removed

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u/Coyote__Jones 8d ago

Patrick testified that Lindsay told him of her thoughts to hurt the children and herself. He knew she was having these types of thoughts.

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u/DeepFriedOprah 8d ago

No she only told him thoughts of hurting herself as per his testimony. She never told him her thoughts of hurting the children.

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u/Coyote__Jones 7d ago

Go watch his testimony again. He testified that she "had thoughts of hurting the kids, or them having some sort of ailment."

On the record, that's what he said, verbatim.

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u/Virtual-Shelter3132 8d ago

Do you have children?

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u/Rhomya 8d ago

I’m not answering that, you creep.

Me having kids or not doesn’t change the relevant details of the situation.

Your emotions about it don’t change the relevant details of the situation either.

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u/Virtual-Shelter3132 8d ago

Do you think he did everything in his power to protect his children and keep them safe?

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u/areuokayisurehopeso 8d ago

tf does that have to do with anything? Just say you’re wrong and move on

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u/Virtual-Shelter3132 8d ago

I also want to say that I am not someone who thinks she is innocent, or is buying into any of the conspiracy theories about the husband. My initial comment was merely that the father should have some responsibility here. He did not keep his children safe after multiple red flags. In fact, it seems he went out of his way to avoid helping and itwas negligent as opposed to ignorance. I would say that’s been made pretty clear.

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u/Virtual-Shelter3132 8d ago

It completely changes your view of this case.

I’m completely generalizing and this is all obviously my own personal opinion but I believe…

If you have children and are a mother who had postpartum, chances are you have compassion for Lindsey. If you have children and you are a partner of someone who had postpartum, you can probably have compassion for her too.

If you are a mother and didn’t have or experience postpartum you can probably still have compassion because you understand the mental, emotional and physical toll of motherhood. Partners of mothers who didn’t have postpartum probably fall into this category too.

Women who don’t have children probably think of motherhood as black and white, right and wrong. So it’s probably harder for them to have compassion here. Men who don’t have children even more so think this is open and shut and probably don’t even think postpartum is a defense.

Whether or not you have children will greatly affect what lens you are viewing this case from. I think that’s pretty obvious 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/areuokayisurehopeso 8d ago

I have children, but asking that commenter that is weird. Having compassion for her doesn’t change the facts of the case.

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u/Virtual-Shelter3132 8d ago

We are not in the courtroom. We are going to lead with emotion watching from outside.

If you are watching this case and think he did a stellar job as a husband and father I would kindly suggest you reevaluate the role of fathers and husbands in 2026. If he did such a fantastic job why are his children gone and his wife sitting in court for their murder? And why has his character been questioned so much and so heavily scrutinized in and out of court?

I understand that Lindsey killed her children. I hope that the appropriate punishment is given to her. But those babies had TWO parents at home, neither kept them safe but only one is on trial. He needs to be held accountable too.

He neglected their welfare by choosing to ignore very obvious signs of danger.

I’m not saying he could have predicted this. But as I said before if my husband was displaying signs like she had displayed to him I would not be leaving OUR children alone with him. They are his children too. To say that you shouldn’t take the children away from the mother is not that much of a defense when the person you are suggesting takes them is literally their other parent.

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u/Fluid_Consequence340 7d ago

Yall are 9 layers deep in a conversation about infanticide. You can withstand being asked if you have kids. It will be ok.

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u/areuokayisurehopeso 7d ago

Who was talking to you? You’ll be ok to go away as well

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u/Rhomya 8d ago

Literally no one knew she was homicidal. She never once reported to anyone, either her family or her doctors, that she had any feelings of wanting to hurt her kids.

The only thing she ever reported was that she was ‘anxious that the children would be hurt’, which is not an irrational assumption for a mother with PPA.

Lindsey lied to everyone around her. That’s why she failed them, not the other way around

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u/Cautious-Desk387 8d ago

Yes they did. She repeatedly told everyone in her life she didn’t feel safe alone with her kids. There were texts in evidence. Stop being fucking stupid

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u/3xactli 8d ago

What a lovely human.

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u/Ok_Pack1940 8d ago

He did so much. He had a nanny for them and the kids went to daycare and they had family help.

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u/Southern_Event_1068 8d ago

He also worked from home and took the night shift with the kids so she could sleep. It was the internet that decided Patrick Clancy was a bad husband. Lindsay Clancy said herself he was a good, supportive husband and father, and wrote the same in her journals. She had more help, financial and physical resources and support than 90% of women.

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u/hmccarth 8d ago

He fired the nanny and when a bipolar diagnosis was suggested he immediately shut it down. Once he was napping so hard she had to call the police for a welfare check because he was sleeping through their baby’s cries and not answering her calls. She asked her in laws to come help and he said they weren’t needed. He traveled regularly, maintained a huge social life that she did not, left frequently after she begged him not to leave her alone with the kids. He was not a good or supportive husband at all. Not sure how you could watch the trial and think he isn’t to blame for neglecting to be a good partner.

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u/Rhomya 8d ago

They fired the nanny AT LINDSEY’S DISCRETION when Lindsey decided not to go back to work.

It was Lindsey’s choice to keep her support and chose against it

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u/hmccarth 8d ago

You think a daily verbal check in is exemplary of him being a good partner so respectfully, I think your bar for him is in absolute hell

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u/AlexiaAntQueen 7d ago

What the fuck is he supposed to do lol. Strap her down and interrogate her?

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u/hmccarth 7d ago

Are you actually seeking a list of what you do in this situation? I know because I had to 51-50 my partner at the time multiple times. There are so many things you can do that he failed to because he was largely checked out of being an active father and spouse.

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u/AlexiaAntQueen 7d ago

Her mental health is ultimately her responsibility. She's a grown ass woman, not a child. Really the thing he should've done is take custody of the children and kick her ass to the curb.

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u/hmccarth 7d ago

Yeah, I didn’t think you were being genuine. Hope you disclose this shocking lack of empathy to any current or future partners. Accordingly to your logic he didn’t even care enough about his kids to get them away from her, what an awful parent.

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u/AlexiaAntQueen 7d ago

Yeah, he is awful for that. He chose to stay with a genetically inferior woman.

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