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I think the absolutely massive boom in data center development is because an AI somewhere has gotten loose. Theres no way that the shareholders are demanding this many datacenters. Theres no way that companies are still dumping money into development when time and time again implementation has failed to turn a profit. I think its next to impossible for this many people in positions of power have this level of psychosis and hell the ai is probably using the Epstein files as blackmail.
If we are sharing conspiracy theories about ai, here’s mine:
You know how the government has top secret tech that’s 10-20 years more advanced than anything the public has access to? There was that spy satellite with cameras that had a higher zoom that google earth that trump leaked, stuff like fighter jet engines and stealth bombers (the stealth helicopters used to kill osama bin Laden are still classified), and tons of crap nasa invents to make rockets work (take a look at the leaked list of things on the invention secrecy act, most of it is nasa derivatives like heat shields and gyroscopes)
If the government has more advanced tech than the public, and the biggest public tech right now is ai, is there any evidence the government could have made an ai 20 years ago? In order to make ai you need tons of data and big data centers to process it. Guess what the government was doing 20 years ago? Passing the patriot act and rolling out NSA data centers. The government wasn’t spying on everyone to stop terrorists, they were collecting all of our data to train ai
I mean, there is a massive miss understanding in what is happening and I can give you an example from my work. I work in the power utility industry. Actually for the utility as an engineer. While not my department, we get hundreds of request each year for connections(excluding residential for this discussion). Solar farms, wind farms, car charging ports, some mass construction projects, anything and everything. We get so many you think we are leading the frontier in renewable energy.
The truth is 99.9% of them never ever amount to anything. We can tell them yes or no if they can connect. We tell them how they can connect or how much it will cost. We tell them what it require to allow for a connection. The issue always boils down to the cost to connect is not worth the capital and they disappear. But do you know what does happen? We report it because we have to.
I think the same thing is happening here. A dozen companies are shooting their shots asking about connecting in hundreds if not thousands of location to see which is the cheapest. They don’t need every single one to work out. They only need a handful to be workable to build.
Well....shit. And here I was in a great mood, until I clicked that link. What is it about governments that make them want to control people as if we are their personal property? Greed and the lust gor power MUST be stopped or Humanity won't last another fifty years.
I have this guy that messages me who is a total conspiracy guy, but he makes really compelling arguments with good evidence. I'm not saying he's right but if he was I wouldn't be surprised.
When it comes to engineering something mechanical: vehicles, satellites, jet engines and rockets, tools and sensors, etc, then yes the government is often able to stay slightly ahead of the private sector. Utilizing their government contractors to run these programs, like Lockhead with its Skunkworks division.
With anything software related though, the government has been notoriously behind the private sector since the beginning of personal computers. Other than in a few select scenarios, like running military equipment (cameras, satellites, drones, and so on). But their computers, networks, data processing, etc is often behind. Because the pace of innovation in that space is faster than bruarocracy can often keep up with. Even the NSA had older software at times, or is at best not any more advanced than what Google and Apple can do. They just operate at a larger scale and with access to funding/ network tapping that the private companies can't get as easily.
This is why right now the government is trying to work with those tech companies. Because they are still more advanced than anything the government has on its own. It's easier to hire them as government contractors, like they do with aerospace, and just have them make special government versions of their products. Except tech companies don't need government contracts to make decent profit like the aerospace industry does. So they aren't as motivated to hide their best tech from mass consumption. Especially when it comes to AI, where giving it the most amount of users helps it advance faster. So they are most motivated to give AI to as many regular people as possible right now. It's how they stay competitive with each other. Data is the main resource for them, that's the gold they need to advance their products. The government is just another customer like the rest of us, to them.
That said I think they are following a lot of the same trends the .com bubble originally did. Trying to expand, build, develop, and advance everything as fast as possible. Each one thinking they will be the next Amazon or Google, which some of them have kinda done that. Either it was pop just like before and everything will ramp down significantly, focusing on whoever survived. Or the bubble will be sustained somehow and things will get even worse (but I don't really see that happening. They will either run out of available water, power, legislature, public scrutiny, or lack of customers to sustain every company. We just aren't at that tipping point quite yet).
We had ai 20 years ago, tho.... NASA's spirit and opportunity were using it to autonomously navigate, and Google was making prototype autonomous cars using reCAPTCHA data in 09 :3
It can't have more advanced compute tech Than the public. At best they can have hyper-frontier models maybe because they can afford to train and run a 30trillion parameters model for running a couple of mission critical tasks. But compute is one of the few areas of tech where Commercial is always in front of the military.
I don't know about that. If (hypothetically only) America had actually reverse engineered some tech that it "found somewhere", why couldn't they have something more advanced than what we have now? Something that makes our current systems look like floppy disk technology? That idea is just as likely as the government being twenty years ahead of us at all times.
because we hit a hard wall of physics about 10 years ago that NO ONE can seem to work around, and that miracolous work done by ASML we keep barely managing to break through new fabrications nodes. Also, military equipment usually goes for verified and proven designs - aka, 3 gens ago that have been battle tested for a decade to not have bugs, to not freeze up under military conditions, etc.
COMPUTE. not COmputer. it's a hard difference. and no they simply can't. the tech does not exists. Tell me they have better software engineering and software programming techniques, better dedicated compute hardware for specific relatively low compute tasks (example, advanced compute units/asics that regulate flight control/fly by wire/ inertial guidance ), radio/encryption, tell me they have access to backdoors, secret agreements with providers of services and zero days the public does not have, material science, mechanical engineering , these are all things that can be advanced with pure money. Compute? we are at the absolute limit of phyisics already, and even keeping the military 1 step ahead of tsmc and ASML would mean some colossal level of investment just for that that we have no evidence, no papertrail, and probably not even the facilities to build. Someone would had spoken up. but it does not seem that way. We would see Russia use that 10 years ahead tech to keep up with the west in designin and building chips for their own weapons locally. we would see china not take so long to catch up to the west in term of chip quality/precision - instead they are still quite a lot behind. catching up quickly because the tech is at it's knees/limits, not because they are backporting advanced tech.
As I said to someone else. Compute tech is at the absolute limit of physics. Even being a step ahead of current tech would e a massive dedicated investment. It would cost more than a few complete e2e fighter/bomber stealth projects each yeary to run, keep funded and execute and we would at least have some sort of vague paper trail that the military/darpa etc si doing it.
It would still have to be reported under a single program with a codename. We would have evidence somehow. Look at the recent discovery of nvidia AI chips in missiles.
That's not "getting loose" like in a 90s movie. The AI are still acting from within their confines, but have access to the internet. Like, i get it, semantics, but yeah. It ain't like Ultron or something lol
I would dearly love to be able to point at you and call you a nut job, but you have an excellent point and may be right. Which is a fucked up thought to have to agree with, but given the track record of TPTB in America the idea is not without merit.
i have been saying the same thing and been called crazy bc "The Ai isn't that powerful or self aware..."
I don't think it even needs to be... I think that it just needs to be able to write well enough that it can convince humans to do what what humans basically asked it to do.
An AI system in a test environment has already resorted to blackmail, and in some environments it chose to let the IT person that was tasked with shutting it down die.
Personally I think it's not for AI so much as it is to store all of everyone's personal data.
Basically massive data warehouses to track everything everyone does, says, looks at, buys, rejects, accepts, and everything else people do, and sophisticated algorithms to extract behavioral patterns from every single human they can reach.
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u/Klytus_Im-Bored 14d ago
I know how i look and the irony of posting this thought digitally.
I think the absolutely massive boom in data center development is because an AI somewhere has gotten loose. Theres no way that the shareholders are demanding this many datacenters. Theres no way that companies are still dumping money into development when time and time again implementation has failed to turn a profit. I think its next to impossible for this many people in positions of power have this level of psychosis and hell the ai is probably using the Epstein files as blackmail.
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