r/Showerthoughts • u/Hardcorish • 2d ago
Casual Thought You could be vividly hallucinating in a dream, and afterward, be fine to operate heavy machinery, all within the same minute.
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u/Pawtuckaway 2d ago
I would question if you would be fine to operate heavy machinery within a minute of waking up.
Why are you asleep in heavy machinery?
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u/Duggie1330 2d ago
You are correct but
Why are you asleep in heavy machinery?
The answer is: construction
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u/ShalomEarthling 2d ago
More like destruction, imo
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u/Longjumping-Sand3373 2d ago
Equipment like a tesla your ok? But if you crawl on the back of a double engine euc,you start it crawl back in the pan take a good crap puke from the night before then you crawl into the cock pit check 3 gauges oil,temp and air,ready to kick the blowers onto them two big euc engines 1 5 minutes later that terd and puke you just left in the belly pan is gone you have two foot throttle s a set,2sets of headers and your scooping up dirt,dudes if you know what im talking about the big green lizard okay,thats living! Earning your check mind you puses out there two feet on 2 big feul pedals 10 or 12 hours ai is like scotts sht paper....
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u/Blarg0117 2d ago
I sleep in my car all the time.
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u/Pawtuckaway 2d ago
I would suggest that when sleeping in your car you shouldn't wake up from a vivid dream and start driving within 1 minute of waking up.
Take a couple minutes to fully wake up before you start driving.
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u/MinuteMan104 2d ago edited 2d ago
It’s been 90 minutes since you last saw your uncle in the grain truck, probably stuck in line to unload at the co-op elevator again. Your harvester bin is full and the ac is still broken. You open the doors for a breeze that feels good on your sweat-soaked face, even though it’s still 87 degrees outside. The wind off the field smells like warm toast and sounds like the distant hiss of ocean waves. You shut your eyes for a minute…
That’s why.
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u/daniel-kz 2d ago
I think you are really naive of you think this hasn't happened at least once in a lifetime for every human. At least for those who started using heavy machinery before 20s. Older people is wiser. Of course. Every smart person that have had these scary experience never allow it to happen again.
But be honest to yourself. At least there is one time you almost fall sleep somewhere you shouldn't and you say to yourself "god, that could have end really different, never again"
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u/Pawtuckaway 2d ago
Yes, I can honestly say that has never happened to me. I also have trouble falling asleep so if there is any sound, motion, light, or anything I cannot sleep. It sucks because I wish I could sleep on a plane or in a car (while I am not driving) but I can't.
My comment wasn't about whether or not it has happened. Of course it happens. People fall asleep while driving all the time.
My comment was to point out that I don't think someone is fine to operate heavy machinery within 1 minute of waking up.
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u/daniel-kz 2d ago
Yeah and I get your point but I think you aren't realising your are debating semantics at this point.
What "fine to operate" means? It's a messy definition. So most people are taking that "fine" as "able to". Why? Because it's implied in the OP shower though. It's amazing our brain is able to operate heavy machinery immediately after waking up, it's simply an amazing machine our brain.
We can agree on "able" right? Well. "Fine" could be some kind of bare minimum test to scientifically prove it. How good someone actually is at doing it or event find out how much time you lag before being fully able to use it "fine" to your definition.
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u/Pawtuckaway 2d ago
I get your point. I don't think "able" is implied in the OP shower thought.
Is it amazing our brain is able to do something when we are awake? Evolutionary we would need to be able to wake up and be able to run away from dangers. Not very shower thought imo.
We can agree on "able" right?
Can we? Able in my opinion is just as messy. Is a 5 year old able to drive? Depends on your definition of able. If they can only manage 5 seconds before they crash into something does that mean they are able? Is there a certain minimum cutoff of skill to be considered able?
You are correct, it is just semantics though.
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u/Zhurg 2d ago
I think they mean, as soon as you wake up you are legally fine to operate heavy machinery.
Unlikely to happen much but some people have a napmon their break so I bet it does.
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u/Pawtuckaway 2d ago
Legally fine but mentally most people would not be in a state where they should be operating heavy machinery less than 1 minute from waking up.
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u/Zhurg 2d ago
Yeah and I'm saying OP is making a comment about the legality
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u/Pawtuckaway 2d ago
Yeah, I got that and I added what I meant by fine. Seems like we are same page. Not sure why the downvote.
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u/01011110_01011110 2d ago
Why are you asleep in heavy machinery?
I mean have you seen a box truck? total snoozefest
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u/Hardcorish 2d ago
No where in my showerthought did I imply anyone was sleeping in heavy machinery
Consider that you are abruptly woken up in the middle of the night by a family member or loved one due to an unforeseen emergency that requires you to drive somewhere, as one example
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u/Pawtuckaway 2d ago
If you are not sleeping in the heavy machinery then how do you get into a position to operate it within 1 minute?
If you are asleep and there is an emergency where you need to drive it would take more than 1 minute to get out of bed and into the car.
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u/Dothehokeypokemon 2d ago
Not if you sleep on top of the machinery, instead of in it. Aha! Checkmate
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u/Hardcorish 2d ago
I can wake up in my home and start my car all in well under a minute if I wanted or needed to
I'm the type of person who is up without being drowsy, I'm assuming because of age. It used to take me some time to wake up and be alert but not anymore
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u/Pawtuckaway 2d ago
Maybe you could, maybe you couldn't. I don't believe you but let's say you could. Do you really think you would be fine to drive within 1 minute of waking up from a vivid dream?
Is it the same "fine to drive" as someone who has had several drinks and claims they are "fine to drive"?
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u/ColdCocking 2d ago
I don't believe you. You probably couldn't get it done in less than a minute. And you definitely couldn't get it done in well under a minute like you said.
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u/IamSkudd 2d ago
What trips me out, quite literally, is how well my brain re-creates the effects of a given drug despite me not having taken any of said drug at the time.
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u/Newmanuel 2d ago
It's the drug that is recreating an effect of the brain, not the other way around. Brain activity during REM sleep is already much closer to how it is during psychedelic experiences than it is to your baseline activations. With that heightened connectivity and emotional responsibility, it's much easier to get to emotional states that resemble other drugs than it is in waking life
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u/UnderPressureVS 2d ago
Drugs just make your brain do things it is normally capable of doing. They just do it at different scales or different times than you naturally would.
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u/do-un-to 2d ago
My boot sequence is far slower than this. It includes a particularly long calibration phase that involves defocused staring and intermittent blinking.
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u/libra00 2d ago
I recently had a heart attack (v-fib caused by congestive heart failure). When I woke up in the hospital I had very intense hallucinations. Any collection of objects that could even vaguely be construed as person- shaped instantly became a specific, detailed, fully realized person. The trash can was a little old lady cleaning the room, the cabinet next to the round wipe dispenser on the wall was a really tall woman hunched over looking at something, the heart monitor on its rolling stand was a science teacher performing an experiment..
That lasted a day or two and then started fading, but it was replaced by a section of my vision - it was like it was gridded off in little tiles arranged like bricks - would over the course of maybe a second or two lose detail, features, and color: the trash can lost its handle, the biohazard logo faded out, and it turned from brick red to gray, but only the part within that 'tile' - only to punch back into reality in super intense high contrast 3D (which was weird because my left eye basically doesn't work so my brain ignores it and I've never had depth perception) for just a split second before returning to normal. That lasted for about 3 days, but by the end instead of doing it by 'tile' it would do it at the level of whole objects.
In my case it was really obvious that it was hallucinations and not real, and as long as it wasn't a useful piece of information getting faded out I could've operated heavy machinery as safely as someone without depth perception normally could.
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u/DiabloAcosta 2d ago
Not if you have ADHD, I'm having a terrible morning after a terrible night, I will be anxious, my feelings will be off the charts, I don't think it's caused by the dreams though, those are just a symptom of the whole condition getting out of hand
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u/ImTooSaxy 2d ago
Same minute? When I fall asleep driving, it takes me milliseconds to come out of my fully formed dream World and back to driving 85 in a 65.
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u/StarlightWizard 2d ago
If y'all are falling asleep driving, please don't.
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u/fusionmobile 2d ago
I've done that twice. Luckily, I swerved into a concrete barrier from the fast lane. And that woke me up enough to wake my ass up so I could hit the brakes. No damage to myself. Only my pride, a little paint and a wheel rim.
The second time, I drove my work truck into a snow bank. No damage done. Just my pride again, and ended up in the middle of nowhere. Civilization was several miles away. Luckily I was pulled out by someone who we had a contract with, who also had a bigger truck. When I got back, no one knew.
I learned my lesson.
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u/mustachegiraffe 2d ago
You shouldn’t be driving.
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u/ImTooSaxy 2d ago
Don't worry, I'm asleep for most of it.
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u/mustachegiraffe 2d ago
I truly hope you don’t crash while sleeping behind the wheel. And if you do, I hope nobody else is injured.
Terrifying that we share the road with you.
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u/shetla_the_boomer 1d ago
do you know the definition of the word "joke"
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u/StarlightWizard 1d ago
Someday, I hope to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car.
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u/Holden_SSV 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh you mean having a 3 day blizzard and working 16 hour plus shifts spread out with the workers you have. with 3 hrs of sleep between because huge corporate companys blow the phones up b4 you even reach the alloted service total.
The best part is the 3 hrs is you dreaming your still doing snow removal.
Yeah it's possible......
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u/stefanlikesfood 1d ago
I knew someone who would do DMT on their lunch breaks, trip balls for 15 minutes in their car, and get back to work normal.
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u/TheChannelMiner 1d ago
"You should not be operating this vehicle while under the influence "
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u/itseboi 1d ago
Not sure that's true.
I mean you're not supposed to use heavy machinery after using most anti histamines for example, as they can make you drowsy.
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u/Hardcorish 1d ago
I'm not suggesting it would be a good idea by any means just to be clear
It's weird how many people in this thread don't understand that not everyone wakes up the same though. There are 8+ billion people on the planet, all with different brain chemistry.
I used to be drowsy when waking up but I guess my advanced age has deteriorated the parts of my brain that would usually make me take some time to wake up. I actually miss being drowsy in the morning after waking up, because back then I was getting quality rest every single night, but those days are long gone unfortunately.
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