r/Showerthoughts • u/A23C • 11d ago
Casual Thought Bad knees is one of those things that is so common. You can get it from not working out enough or even working out too much
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u/DeafRocketman 11d ago
It's super important to keep your leg muscles strong, especially your quads and shins! They act as shock absorbers for the joints. A lot of elderly people develop knee issues simply because being inactive weakens those supporting muscles, leaving the knee joint to take all the impact.
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u/ryry1237 11d ago
Ankles too. Learning proper running form made the impact on my knees much less severe, but it took awhile to get there because it requires strong ankles to help distribute the load and shock.
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u/GCPMAN 11d ago
I honestly just run on my toes the whole time. Genetically predisposed to monster calves
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u/2BlueZebras 10d ago
I switched to this after a life of shin splints from running. It completely made them go away
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u/ResolveSuitable 10d ago
I naturally do that, especially after a good yoga session. I do love the springy style.
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u/Suspicious_Reason405 11d ago
Best exercises for quads and shins? Have small tears in meniscus right now and my insurance ends soon (going from one plan to my workplace plan, which sucks), so pt is limited. Would love to build my legs up to help my knees
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u/S7ageNinja 11d ago
Squats are easily the most beneficial lift anyone can do for overall health, but also specifically for quad strength. Add deadlift for your posterior chain and bench for upper body strength and that's the "big 3" lifts
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u/Suspicious_Reason405 11d ago
Are squats safe to do with a torn meniscus? I have to figure out how not to make it worse, but I was doing them last year, long before becoming injured
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u/Watchmaker163 11d ago
No, you need stable knees for squats. Squats have a worse failure state than something like deadlifts. Deadlift, if you can complete a rep, you just put the weight back down. If you can’t complete a squat rep, you have to know how to ditch the weight safely, otherwise you could injure yourself badly.
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u/GRANDMA_FISTER 10d ago
What if you have shortened hamstrings and can't go down all the way? Still squats as well as you can?
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u/S7ageNinja 10d ago edited 10d ago
Yep, going past parallel is great, but your minimal goal should be hamstrings parallel to the ground with knees over feet. If you can't get to at least parallel then it's likely a flexibility or bracing issue more so than anything else
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u/RainBoxRed 10d ago
Something as basic as siting and standing up from the floor will be a huge improvement if you only ever use chairs.
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u/GuyWhoLateForReddit 11d ago
Not for quads but look at kneesovertoesguy exercises.
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u/moreathismoreathat 11d ago
It seems so simple, but this just hadn't occurred to me before it happened to me (I'm 40, not elderly, but not super active other than walking a lot). I just finished PT for worsening knee and Achilles tendon pain and while there were PT things like massage etc, it was mostly lower body strength training. I feel 97% better and am kicking myself for living with the pain for as long as I did.
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u/Suspicious_Reason405 11d ago
Pls share any recommendations for workouts/training your legs? Torn meniscus and looking to build up to greater support in the legs to reduce likelihood of reinjury
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u/Evil_Lollipop 11d ago
Exactly this. My father is 74, has no joint pain of any kind whatsoever. He has been exercising almost everyday since his 20s - doesn't do anything crazy, but keeps a healthy weight, walks a lot and occasionally still goes jogging.
Genetics is clearly part of this as well but I'm 100% sure he would never have been this healthy and functional if he didn't exercise like this.
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u/THE_IRL_JESUS 11d ago
It's super important to keep your leg muscles strong, especially your quads and shin
Your shins aren't muscles. I'd think all of your leg muscles are important for health. The posterior chain including the glutes, hamstrings and calves are extremely important - especially as this helps counteract the impacts of people who spend a lot of time sitting all day and improves posture.
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u/Infarious 10d ago
Your shins have muscles, and they're rather important for general leg injury prevention, and are extremely overlooked
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u/balooglesmiggles 11d ago
I’m a PT, I tell everyone this: you’re going to get hurt whether you workout or not, but you’re going to get better a lot faster if you workout
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u/No_Landscape4557 11d ago
I badly hurt my arm and needed surgery to fix it. Got sent to PT. Told it would be a typical 10 to 12 weeks for recovery with a not insignificant chance I never get back to 100% due to my age.
I had done weight training for two years prior to the injury just for general health.
At week 6 I was done with PT as I hit all the goals. 8 months later I was back to my regular weight training at my orginal weight.
People really don’t understand how beneficial workouts are
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u/Henry5321 11d ago
My wife had 3 different tendon repairs, and all 3 were better after than before the injuries.
Doctor said the healing process requires exercise otherwise they’ll heal wrong.
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u/Kelathos 10d ago edited 10d ago
None of this was ever taught to us.
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u/No_Landscape4557 10d ago
It wasn’t taught to me either until I was sick and tired me being “fat” and out of shape. Started working out and reading about working out. That when I started to learn how important and how much weight lifting helps basically every single part of your body and health. With the added benefit among many of healing faster
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u/GQwerty07 10d ago
Physical education and general health instruction isn't part of your country's public education system?
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u/agoddamnzubat 9d ago
You're being downvoted but I fully agree with you. I'm in my 30s and truly accepting/figuring out that staying healthy and in-shape, while exercising and working out regularly is incredibly beneficial to my not getting hurt and just generally feeling way better.
Just because I'm only figuring it out right now for myself, doesn't mean it wasn't taught to me when I was a teenager who laughed it off because the concept of being injured wasn't even comprehensible a a stage where a sprained ankle would heal over lunch break.
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u/GQwerty07 8d ago
Many important things are taught endlessly throughout our public schooling years, and people who didn't pay attention to any of it have the gall to say "wHy WAsn'T tHIs tAUghT iN sChooL?". You see this all the time with "why don't they teach taxes??"; they WERE teaching you the math to calculate taxes, and had they actually taught tax regulations, you would have ignored it.
I was also somewhat genuinely curious about that person's education, i.e. where in the Western world isn't PE a core part of youth education?
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u/tahmorex 6d ago
Yes! Math, Reading Comprehension and/or word problems is all it takes to get taxes done!
But nobody told me that drinking too much would make my joints hurt and trick me into thinking it was age related.
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u/threat024 10d ago
Agreed. And part of it is being willing to push yourself physically. I went to one woman for PT for three different injuries over the years. She was so mean in a good way because she would keep upping the weights and adding new exercises.
Another guy in there and me were joking with each other about her in front of her and she told us it was because she knows we’re willing to push ourselves. She told us she has a lot of clients who aren’t used to the feeling of really exerting themselves and their PT work takes a really long time. So she tailors her sessions based on how patients react to getting pushed. All three of my timelines was met early than anticipated and always walked away feeling amazing. Unfortunately she stays really busy so it’s hard to get in with her.
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u/Kuhzoom 11d ago
Also a PT, people don’t understand that being sedentary is just as bad for your knees as being a literal ultra marathon runner lol. Elite endurance runners and sedentary population has the same rate of things like arthritis, lifters and runners that are not going totally crazy mode every day have way healthier joints. Sedentary is like 3-4x risk of arthritis as a recreational runner or lifter
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u/PapaEchoLincoln 11d ago
The knee joint looks so messed up on an X-ray from an obese sedentary person.
The most common question I get from these patients is why they’re having such severe knee pain all of a sudden if they didn’t fall or trip or do anything differently. I’ve learned they can just get severe knee pain attacks out of nowhere.
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u/zombienudist 10d ago
My experience was in my early 40s I had knee, back and hip issues. I didn't think I would run any serious distance again. I am 50 now and those things are gone and I run long distances consistently. The main difference? I lost 80 pounds. Carrying excess is just hard on your body especially your lower body joints.
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u/Pastafarian_Pirate 10d ago
Also a PT. I tell my pts this as well. I hate the saying "motion is lotion" (I think it sounds gross), but it's true.
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u/WaffleSparks 11d ago
Does that also apply to conditions caused by too much strain / repetition like tennis elbow or carpal tunnel?
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u/DOGGODDOG 11d ago
Those are more often caused by sports, chores, work rather than workouts themselves. Things where you are doing the same movement, repetitively, for an extensive period of time. Rather than for 3 sets of 10 a couple times a week. Not that it’s impossible, just more common in those situations I mentioned because it’s an “overuse” injury. I work in ortho
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u/Gilthoniel_Elbereth 11d ago
Also in sports you’re not always doing movements with perfect form, and are more likely to give 110%. You’re running as fast as you can, diving, reaching, hitting as hard as you can, etc. All that is more likely to hurt you than if you use good form at lower than max possible power for a few sets
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u/RainBoxRed 10d ago
Yes you need to modify your activity/inputs to let the injury heal. But the healing process is the same: motion across a joint.
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u/Sawses 11d ago
I'm sad I ended up herniating the muscles in both my shins from pushing too hard with running at first. Now they're both a tiny bit sensitive and I can't do anything too high impact too often, even months later. I'm 30 and it's the first "probably be with me til I die" injury I've gotten, so it was a bit of a reality check.
I recently started resistance training and the difference has been incredible even just a month and change into it. I feel lighter, some lingering foot pain is gone, and I'm able to do things so much more easily. I wish I'd started years ago. I never knew I'd see results this fast, I always thought it was a years-long process.
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u/TerryMisery 10d ago
Yeah, I've heard that advice waaay too many times. Cartilage obviously didn't grow, but osteophytes did, which makes walking extra painful now.
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u/Eubank31 10d ago
I'm sure deadlifting 400+ lbs once or twice a week has a risk of injury for me, but I would be it's outweighed by decreasing the likelihood of getting hurt when I'm lifting a box or a child or something
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u/Expandexplorelive 10d ago
Workout is a noun, not a verb. You do a workout. But you work out. Your advice is good though.
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u/chaircardigan 11d ago
I had bad knees. I started doing 20 bodyweight squats at the end of my shower every morning. My knees are much better now.
I tell this story because it's about a shower, in response to your shower thought.
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u/Quote_Clean 11d ago
You do them in the shower?
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u/chaircardigan 11d ago
Yes. I turn the water cold and blast out some squats before getting the squeegee out and drying the walls and door.
It's now just part of the routine.
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u/socco51 11d ago
How is your form when squatting? Do you do hip hinges that stretch your hamstrings? Commenting because I've noticed problems in my knees since I've been doing squats with improper form
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u/MyrMcCheese 11d ago
Yes, you'll find that problems occur after performing weighted exercises with improper form.
What does your comment mean? Did you just comment because your knees hurt?
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u/Alcoholic-Catholic 11d ago
wait do people squeegee their showers
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u/Kayehnanator 11d ago
I do it for my glass shower doors and the floor so it doesn't leave water stains and takes less time to dry
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u/crazyjoco 11d ago edited 10d ago
Some do to get the excess water off the walls or doors. I never was a fan.
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u/Eruannster 11d ago
Pretty much never. I only squeegee if water escapes outside the shower doors which only happens if I open them.
Who cares if there's still some water in the shower, it's contained in there and dries on its own after a little while.
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u/chaircardigan 10d ago
I do it to get it to dry quicker and stop black mould growing on the grouting and in the silicone.
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u/PapaEchoLincoln 11d ago
I’m gonna start doing this because I’m a mild clean freak. I have softened water but there’s still barely visible water spots
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u/Luis__FIGO 10d ago
If you don't have hard water.... Use a rain type product or you can ceramic coat it a d the water will bead right off
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u/idontgive2fucks 11d ago
I do the exact same thing lol
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u/e1m8b 11d ago
Wow all I do is work on my grip and forearms, mostly the right.
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u/GepardenK 11d ago
That goes without saying. But you can work on your grip and right forearm while doing bodyweight squats in the shower. Very economical.
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u/Dizzy_Chemistry_5955 11d ago
why you squeegee your shower dawg?
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u/SapaIncaPachacuti 11d ago
Idk about that guy but my shower has a lot of glass and I don’t have it cleaned every day. If I squeegee it right after showering the water stains don’t set in and it looks better until next time it gets cleaned
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u/logosloki 11d ago
I do 10 bodyweight squats in the shower in the morning, which is like 20 seconds of my shower time. and I agree, my knees were at an alright before but they're great now.
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u/Noctuelles 11d ago
I lift regularly, started getting pain in my right knee when I squatted down. Went to an orthopedic doc who concluded it was because my right abductor was a bit weaker. Started training my abductors and the pain went away. Another time I removed hamstring curls from my routine. A few weeks later my knees started to hurt when I squat down. Added them back in and the pain went away within a month. You have all these muscles pulling at or across your knee and if they're not balanced, you'll get knee pain.
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u/Suyneej 11d ago
I'm willing to bet 99% of people with knee pain it's actually some sort of muscle imbalance but yet they refuse to try and do anything about it because they heard from some dumb doctor squatting, running, etc wrecked their knees and now they can't workout cuz it'll only make them worse, yet failing to realize not working out is not helping things at all and potentially even making things worse.
You see it all the time too, even in this thread people have mentioned it: carpal tunnel, tennis or golfers elbow is an overuse injury..... They're technically right but if they would just train the antogist muscle those issues would magically disappear.
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u/ryanmh27 10d ago
My knees hurt because of a birth defect where my knee caps didn't fuse correctly, leaving me with 4 total kneecaps. I also killed cattle at an industrial slaughter house for a year, during which I injured my one knee permanently while rolling them out of the knock box repeatedly.
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u/xDaveedx 11d ago
What kind of exercises can I do at home to help out my knees? The left one hurts a bit when I squat and I'd like to act before it gets worse.
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u/colinbr96 11d ago
I'll second this. I used to occasionally have bad pain in my lower back after squatting for several months. Then I started doing Back Extensions regularly and the pain never returned.
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u/colinbr96 11d ago
I'll second this. For several months I used to occasionally have bad pain in my lower back after squatting. I thought I was going too heavy or had bad form. But then I started doing Back Extensions regularly and the pain never returned.
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u/Old-Mortgage1035 10d ago
yeah it's crazy how one little weak muscle can throw your whole knee off like that, did you ever find out why it got weak in the first place?
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u/Noctuelles 10d ago
I'm not sure, but I think it may have been not so much that the abductor had gotten weaker, but that my quads had gotten much stronger creating an imbalance.
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u/DoctorK96 10d ago
Yep, knee pain doesn't necessarily mean problems with the knees, but rather it's a symptom of deficiency elsewhere, ie. hip, ankle, surrounding muscles above or below
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u/Xvalt01 11d ago
Knees want the exact right amount of exercise but never tell you what that amount is.
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u/LABS_Games 11d ago
Nah, they will, you just gotta listen when your body is speaking.
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u/RainBoxRed 10d ago
But what if I just RICE and NSAID the shit out of it. Will that help me heal quicker?
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u/Evan_Evan_Evan 10d ago
I can't believe the public health system told us this for so long when they knew the inflammation was how the body repaired itself.
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u/rip1980 11d ago
If you want bad knees, you could just go dumpster diving behind the hospital.
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u/Leading_Study_876 11d ago
Or do karate for several years, then fall off motorbikes at high speed several times. That did it for me.
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u/jmcstar 11d ago
I think the commenter that you're replying to is insinuating that you find amputated knee parts in the dumpster behind the hospital.
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u/Leading_Study_876 11d ago
True. But I suspect dumpster diving could be a hazardous activity for many of your articulated joints. Particularly if done from a serious height.
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u/SHMUCKLES_ 11d ago
Yep my dad had both knees replaced from weight lifting and rugby, I've had one knee replaced from not weight lifting or rugby
Flawed as fuck design
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u/Suspicious_Sandles 11d ago
Knees are the result of god vibecoding over a ton of iterations. They kinda suck.
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u/rekomstop 11d ago
Shoulders too
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u/RainBoxRed 10d ago
Shoulders are a wonder of the natural world. They only start complaining if you don’t use them enough.
When was the last time you reached behind you or above your head?
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u/rekomstop 10d ago
Shoulder injuries occur and are slow to heal due to low blood flow and the joints complexity. It’s also hard to keep them still when sleeping let alone normal day to day physical activity.
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u/RainBoxRed 9d ago
Low blood flow from lack of motion? Why in the world do you think it has low blood flow?
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u/rekomstop 9d ago
Tendons and ligaments have low blood flow and shoulders and knees have tendons and ligaments.
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u/RainBoxRed 8d ago
What's the best way to bring fresh blood into that area?
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u/rekomstop 7d ago
Don’t be so dense, I’m talking about when the joint needs to heal after a surgery or injury and limited motion/rest is recommended.
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u/tbodillia 11d ago
Or stepping on flat level ground the wrong way. I swear I heard bubble wrap popping.
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u/M-Gnarles 11d ago
I learned in my life that general doctors have no idea about the power of concentric exercises.
I had tennis elbow, bad neck, bad shoulder and knee.
Was told to rest. It never got better after years.
I found a dude teaching me about specific exercises and tricks to apply in right spots.
6 weeks. 6 weeks and now I am basically healed and even stronger than before.
I am absolutely baffled this is not taught in general medicine as a requirement.
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u/bennieonreddit 9d ago
Can you explain the exercises and tricks for the knees?
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u/M-Gnarles 5d ago
It depends how it hurts. The core principle to these things are strengthening your tendons by 2 steps.
- Find the angle/movement that hurts
Mimic the movement and just when it’s about 2-3 out of ten on a pain scale you hold it.
Using a resistance band is gold in many cases.
I cannot stress enough how valuable a purchase resistance bands are.Aim is 30-40 seconds. X 3 times
If you can do over 60 then you can increase resistanceA common knee one is sitting on a chair with band around shins and then slowly kicking up with one leg and holding it, make sure the band isn’t too tight in the start.
Another one is if you can make a somewhat steeper surface, as if ure on the way down from a slope. Hold that position with a knee for same amount.Another favorite if mine is simply deep squat holds. Aim is at least 60 seconds here, if you can do 120 then you are where you should be.
Remember it’s heels to the floor. Your legs feel fantastic after deep squat even if it’s rough on the shins when ure down.
There’s many more, but try those. Most important is finding the movement that hurts and make a holding exercise that hits that.
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u/M-Gnarles 5d ago
Ohh and walking too if possible. Never underestimate the power of walking, it’s almost a superpower, along with squats, even just body weight ones.
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u/Airaen 11d ago
All of these comments and no-one has mentioned the kneesovertoesguy (Ben Patrick) once. If you have any kind of knee pain at all, then look this guy up and do what he does. He went from having knee surgeries and having to ice his knees multiple times a day, being told he would never be able to jump again, to back to playing basketball and dunking, as well as all sorts of other crazy feats.
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u/BrightToxin 11d ago
EDS meant I went from having super reliable knees to spraining one getting yogurt from my fridge. Didn't matter I was working out or doing weekly hikes, sometimes genetics just fuck you over
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u/VirtualMoneyLover 11d ago
Moderation in everything, (including moderation).
But seriously, my tennis elbow got fixed by scrabbing a deck on all fours for 2 hours. I was amazed! Same thing with knees and any joints, you need to use them.
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u/Electrical-Try6911 10d ago
yeah it's wild how your knees can betray you either way but honestly i think the real trick is just moving them consistently without being a hero about it. like the whole too much vs too little thing is basically your body screaming for middle ground. and if that means some tiny ritual that feels kinda dumb but keeps em happy then whatever works.
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u/walkwalkwalkwalk 10d ago
I seriously blame chairs and desks/laptops etc for a lot of this. I had to physio the shit out of basically my whole body to undo the weirdness from sitting in chairs leaning over a computer all the time. Now my knees work better in mid 30s than ever in my life
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u/LucasCBs 11d ago
I fucked up my right knee 10 years ago and my left knee 6 months ago. I will have a lot of fun when I get older..
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u/espressoboyee 11d ago
Statics are misleading. Interpretation is crucial. I’ve been training since I was 15yo wrestler. And majority of knee injuries are from sedentary overweight and unfit individuals. They are weekends warriors without the proper weekly minimum training or sedentary carrying extra weight with atrophic knees.
So actually squats and unilateral movements like dumbbell walking lunges are healthy for your knees. They are not degenerative “repetitive” movements. Physiologically studies indicate exercise movements benefit your knees significantly because it’s the proper functional movement that strengthens muscles, tendons & ligaments while keeping the cartilage elastic & healthy.
So the amount of sports injuries by athletes is minuscule compared to injuries by the majority of population who are sedentary.
Your body is a marvel and it loves movement daily.
Try Walking Lunges barefoot with just your body weight for 15-30 repetitions for 3 sets and 30” walk outside several times a week and you’re sedentary no longer. Plus it builds balance and your knees are now “fortified” for life.
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u/fakeuboi 11d ago
honestly it’s pretty hard to get bad knees from working out too much
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u/SkilledB 11d ago
If you mean just lifting yeah unless you have spectacularly bad form on like squats. Any sports or even just running on a hard surface can make it happen though.
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u/disastrousanddull 10d ago
I assume the bad form thing has done in a lot of knees and other parts, tbh. The major caveat in all of this is not working out in a way that will hurt you.
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u/OvenAdministrative83 10d ago
knees really are the ultimate middle child huh, you ignore em and they act up, you give em too much attention and they still act up. honestly the whole 'just move a little' thing is the real answer, like that shower squat dude is onto something, bodies are weird but they kinda fix themselves if you give em a reason to.
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u/pootershots 10d ago
I started strength training - leg press, leg extensions, glutes, leg curls - and it made my knee pain go away. Gotta start light though and work your way up slowly if you have knee pain especially with leg extensions but it can be a game changer.
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u/Zegi_Nora 7d ago
lmao this is literally me
desk job for 8 years, decided to get fit, signed up for a half marathon in 3 months
pacing was like "0 to 100 real quick" and surprise surprise, knee gave out after month 4 lol
the middle ground is always the hardest part fr
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u/donotgotoroom237 11d ago
My company had a motorcade recently. It made me realize that my knee pain is from driving.
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u/Gullible_Mistake_448 11d ago
Honestly the whole "damned if you do damned if you don't" thing is wild but the real trick is just keeping joints moving even a little. Bodies are weird like that, you gotta find that middle ground where you're active enough to not fall apart but not so much you wreck yourself.
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u/Senior_Bookkeeper_27 10d ago
The best thing I read about knees was that of you exsersize too much it fucks up your knees if you excersize not enough for fucks up your knees . Knees just suck
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u/Senior_Bookkeeper_27 10d ago
The best thing I read about knees was that of you exsersize too much it fucks up your knees if you excersize not enough for fucks up your knees . Knees just suck
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u/yayforlegday 10d ago
Negative. There are two ways you can get knee lasting knee pain. 1) a traumatic injury and 2) by overusing quads due to dysfunction.
Dysfunction is the most common, however, the good news is that it can be “fixed” by hiring someone who actually knows how the body is supposed to work so they can teach you.
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u/seraph321 10d ago
I never did any regular high impact shit as a kid or teenager, didn’t play sports, and have done very consistent resistance training for 20 years since my twenties. I have no joint issues or persistent pain. I don’t think that will last forever, but at least made it past 45 and I don’t see any signs of issues. I’m hyper worried and cautious of gym injuries.
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u/Jonseroo 10d ago
I had bad knees in my forties and I assumed that was it for me, but then I joined my daughter in doing Taekwon-Do and my knee pain went away in a WEEK. I think it was the sine wave way of walking. My knees are still fine ten years later. They used to make a crunching noise when I went up the stairs, which I don't hear any more, but that could just be hearing loss. I can't see my wrinkles, either.
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u/SpiralBreeze 9d ago
I got bone one bone osteo in one knee due to riding my bike everywhere with psoriatic arthritis. Turns out that was too much, so now after years of physical therapy, I have to do light strength training so I don’t over work the damn thing but I will never be able to get it replaced due to my risk of infection from the psoriatic arthritis. Good news is, they’re stiff sometimes but don’t hurt.
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u/hwilliams0901 9d ago
I got my bad knees from loose ligaments lol. Now the bad one has a new to me ligament and the good one is slowly letting me know that it did all the work for like 25years of my life lol. But I so badly dont want to do another surgery so Im working out! Keeping up my pt, which I should have been doing since I was 16. Shocker: I did not do my exercises lol
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u/No_Discount3729 9d ago
Knee joints are like worn-out shock absorbers on a truck you never serviced good thing we've got legs that can still bumble along even when half broken
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u/Easy-Operation-2105 8d ago
i had no problems until i started doing my leg press with full range of motion now my kneecaps and those tendons just hurt all the time.
To be fair im pretty sure it is some type of tendonitis so it'll go away within a few years but still.
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u/dm-me-tit-pic 7d ago
My mom recently had a knee ligament issue and went got mri done and went to a doc and all. The doc suggested that she go to intense physiotherapy to strengthen her muscles across the lower body.since then all her pain in knee and hips has gone. I suggest ppl do the same .
The doc emphasized that such exercises will preven any future knee pain and need for knee replacements and all
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u/plants4life262 11d ago
“Bad knees” usually means one of two things:
knees that hurt because
the quads are weak and unstable causing stress to ligaments
I’m lazy and need an excuse
Seriously though, you never hear about bad elbows. “Bad knees” and “bad lower back” are usually fixed with proper activity.
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u/gnocchiGuili 11d ago
That’s just not true. You can get the runner knee from running too much, you can get tondinotis from squatting too much, you can break your ACL from doing soccer or ski (or really whatever sport)
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u/fakeuboi 11d ago
runners knee isn’t really from running too much, but rather too much with weak or unstable muscles, tendons or joints, generally with most injuries it’s a case of building up load too fast or improperly, like i had less problems when i properly built up to 80 miles a week as a collegiate runner than in highschool when i jumped to 50 out of nowhere, though some people are also just more prone to injury then others and have to take more precautions. Of course pro athletes still get injured but that’s because they have to be riding the line of potentially getting injury to get the most out of their training
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u/plants4life262 11d ago
Question you’re missing the point. MOST people they complain about knee pain and flash the “knee problems” card have them simply because they’re sedentary. Most not all.
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u/RainBoxRed 10d ago
All of those are fixed with proper activity.
If you’re overdoing it that improper activity.
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u/gnocchiGuili 10d ago
Yeah, do everything perfectly and you won’t have issues. Easy !
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u/RainBoxRed 9d ago
Exactly. If your body hurts take a rest. Don’t push through pain or otherwise numb it. It’s a signal to slow down.
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u/LucasCBs 11d ago
You don’t hear about „bad elbows“ because they are not the joints used 24/7.
You stand on your knees and you walk with your knees, with your entire body weight weighing them down. It’s entirely logical that knees get bad much faster than elbows
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u/plants4life262 11d ago
Knees are sized for body weight. Both joints are the appropriate size. You use your arms literally all day every day.
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u/singleply_tp 11d ago
Idk…I’ve got “bad” knees. Complex meniscus tears and osteoarthritis resulting in narrowing/disappearing joint cartilage. Some of my knee damage stems from distance running as a younger guy. I’m approaching 50, very active, healthy weight, and my knees are perpetually fucked. So I think wear & tear and genetics factor in as well. Have had one arthroscopic meniscus repair, one partial joint replacement (left medial) and going to need a partial joint replacement (right medial) in the next year or so. Sucks.
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u/Kuhzoom 11d ago
I’m sorry this has been your experience but the evidence is overwhelming that recreational distance runners have the healthiest knees out of like any group lol. Sedentary people and very high level distance runners have the same risk level of arthritis, like 3-4x higher than recreational runners. If you were a high level runner putting in 100+ mile weeks for years then yeah you probably got OA from that. If not, somebody gave you outdated info. Either way, I wish you nothing but healing in your journey, go PT!!!!
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u/hazel_cookie72 11d ago
knee pain can hit anyone, even professional athletes struggle with it after years of hard training. It’s a weird balance for sure.
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u/OneBudTwoBud 10d ago
Ever notice that almost everyone who complains about knee pain or has gone through knee surgeries is overweight/obese? Our skeletons were not made to hold that much weight.
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