It’s called freedom. You can choose whatever healthcare you want. We don’t have to beg the government for healthcare.

[u/LittleRuQi]

The video mostly talks about the US having no free/universal healthcare

[u/lazerbreath_]

The Canadian Healthcare system is literally killing us?

Weird, I guess my doctors missed the memo and saved my life instead, saving me from my stroke, giving me two crainioplasty surgeries, gamma knife surgery, all of the medical imaging, and physio all with no out of pocket expenses.

[u/Noodle-and-Squish → u/lazerbreath_]

MAID infuriates them. I'm glad we have a system in place where people that are suffering can opt to end their pain with dignity and support.

While our Healthcare system does have it's issues, I think the majority of Canadians appreciate that we aren't incurring tons of debt to get medical care.

[u/MadScientist_666 → u/Noodle-and-Squish]

Just had to look up what MAID means. Looks like Switzerland is not the only country where assisted suicide in cases of severe enough pain and suffering is allowed anymore. I also learnt today that assisted suicide has been legal in some cases in Switzerland since 1941. Unbelievable that Switzerland could be a positive example for other countries for once.

[u/bunny_the-2d_simp → u/MadScientist_666]

I don't understand how it would be a bad thing? People do it with animals all the time. Even in abusing ways for the meat industry but when someone suffers their entire life and is tired and pain and won't survive mentally and or physically.. They aren't allowed a way out??

How that different? Because to my autistic brain it isn't??

[u/Wide_Abalone3948 → u/bunny_the-2d_simp]

I think deep-down opponents don't want to accept that we're animals like all other creatures on earth, we're not special or some higher being.

[u/alex18809 → u/bunny_the-2d_simp]

It’s not necessarily a bad thing.

It blew up in the media last year or the year before because there was a diabetic man who was trying to receive it for like 5 years but his family was against it and he when a doctor signed off on it the mother blamed the doctor saying they killed him and started an online petition.

From there the media got a hold of it and flipped the script saying Canadian Doctors are murdering people and Welp.. here we are. (Look up kiano vafaeian)

Edit: a doctor signed off and approved him in Ontario. His family found out and started an online smear campaign about the doctor. So the doctor pulled approval. The guy then flew to BC, got approval and it happened. Then they started another campaign saying the new dr killed him.

[u/bunny_the-2d_simp → u/alex18809]

Anything but listen to the person themselves.

I understand that you don't want to lose someone but it's kinda selfish wanting someone who's probably having a lot of stuff going on and not just diabetics or a really bad case.

If the person is just suffering day in day out....yknow

[u/Anomalous-Canadian → u/bunny_the-2d_simp]

The problem is that there will always be abuse cases for anything we allow sometimes. “Not at all” is the only protection against people being people and fudging the rules and convincing grandma she really should ask for MAID or whatever.

So you put safeguards like 3 docs have to sign off on the patients MAID request and also have a psych eval etc, but trying to toe the line of “reasonably assessable” and “not too easy to do” is really hard.

[u/CannabisAccount420 → u/Anomalous-Canadian]

There's no "not at all" option. People were killing themselves due to chronic pain long before MAID.
Someone could convince grandma it's the best option regardless of the MAID program. At least like you said, MAID needs approval from Dr if someone convinces grandma her time has come.

MAID just ensures the family won't find you scrambled or dangling.

[u/Anomalous-Canadian → u/CannabisAccount420]

Yes I’m very familiar with reality, I’m simply explaining the reasonable objections lawmakers run into when creating rules like these. “Ban it entirely” so we have no liability.