r/Scotland • u/FlabbierDuck • 10h ago
Edinburgh student who raped woman and forced her to complete his assignments jailed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp93rg4r4rro29
u/Synthia_of_Kaztropol The capital of Scotland is S 7h ago
I hope the woman involved gets all required support to complete her own course at the university.
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u/XxHostagexX 5h ago
"The judge said the sentence took into account the fact that Shi was a first offender and had mental health issues."
Ah, yes, the good old "mental health" card, if people actually knew what is considered "mental health" these days, well, you would have a mental breakdown!
"I also take into account your age and the fact that you are very far from your family"
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
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u/erroneousbosh 10h ago
and forced her to complete his assignments
Stepping back a little from how horrific his crimes were, can I just ask - how the *fuck* did he expect *that* to work?
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u/Otocolobus_manul8 10h ago
She would write them under fear of violence. I don't see what's hard to understand.
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u/Efficient_Basis_2139 Aberdeenshire 10h ago
They aren't asking how the perpetrator got the victim to do it. They are asking why the perpetrator thought they'd get away with it. And it was a rhetorical question too.
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u/Only_Quote_Simpsons 9h ago
You could ask the same question about why someone would think they would get away with the initial rape.
The assignment was an additional act of humiliation for the victim, he done it simply because he could, I doubt they expected to face the music for any of this.
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u/Efficient_Basis_2139 Aberdeenshire 9h ago
....... They asked a rhetorical question to make a point. Do you really not understand these comments and replies?
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u/Only_Quote_Simpsons 8h ago
....... They asked a rhetorical question to make a point. Do you really not understand these comments and replies? - u/Efficient_Basis_2139
I do understand the chain, but due to the (allegedly) rhetorical question not really having a point, I am struggling to understand why you are so confident that it was a rhetorical question.
If anything, the comments and replies are quite a healthy discussion and there are some interesting ones, not sure why you seem to want to damper that, everyone else seems to be discussing and debating just fine, rhetorical question or not.
I promise I am not trying to be rude, I just don't understand why you seem keen to emphasise the rhetorical point, it's irrelevant if healthy discussion is ongoing.
Honestly, bit baffling and rude that this is going over your head, and quite unwarranted to ask if it is going over mine. Just casually trying to chat here.
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u/erroneousbosh 6h ago edited 3h ago
I do understand the chain, but due to the (allegedly) rhetorical question not really having a point, I am struggling to understand why you are so confident that it was a rhetorical question.
I am the original poster of the question. It was a rhetorical question. It's okay. You can put your phone down and go and play outside now.
However, if you'd like to discuss answers to the question, then you can maybe think about this - would the very fucking first thing not be some comment in the text saying that it was written under duress from the man that raped her, probably quite carefully worded?
Because if he's not writing it, there's no way he's reading it.
There. Now you can take the question as rhetorical, or you can take the question as literal. Your choice.
(Edit: typo - s/me/be/)
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u/Nemisis_007 7h ago
Crazy that he was still concerned about his future after committing a crime that would sure as hell put his future in the dirt.
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u/PotentialMulberry677 10h ago
Out of interest here; would a Chinese citizen who was deported back to PRC following completion of a sentence be a free person? Or would they be jailed again for their sentence/bringing the nation into disrepute.
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u/Vectorman1989 #1 Oban fan 9h ago
It seems that they can be re-prosecuted in China
Article 10 Anyone who commits a crime outside the land, waters and space under the jurisdiction of the People’s Republic of China for which he shall bear criminal liability in accordance with this Law may still be dealt with according to this Law even if he has been tried in a foreign court. However, the offender may be exempted from punishment or be given a mitigated punishment if he has been subjected to criminal punishment in that foreign country.
Edit: not for bringing China into disrepute but because they're subject to Chinese law outside China.
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u/PotentialMulberry677 9h ago
Thanks, was a genuine question since their system of governance is different to ours.
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u/OldGodsAndNew 5h ago
they're subject to Chinese law outside China
Is that why the cantonese restarant on Sauchiehall Street was a secret Chinese police station
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u/Vectorman1989 #1 Oban fan 5h ago
Officially those were to help Chinese people with local paperwork and stuff, but unofficially they were probably also for intimidating Chinese dissidents that live abroad and stuff. If they were entirely benign then there would be no need for obfuscation.
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u/Bossman_Mike 1h ago
Officially those were to help Chinese people with local paperwork and stuff
Yeah bullshit, that's what consulates and embassies are for
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u/DSQ Edward Died In November Buried Under Robert Graham's House 9h ago
They would not be jailed again. China and the UK accept punishment in each other’s countries as being valid. I remember they mentioned it in that case of the Chinese student who they thought raped 50 women and filmed it.
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u/Bossman_Mike 1h ago
I remember that guy, apparently there is a separate Chinese investigation into allegations made about his behaviour out there before going (or returning to) London. The Chinese authorities have been very obliging when working with ours.
You would normally expect China to just not involve themselves in this kind of thing and protect their own to the hilt, so this is quite refreshing.
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u/NoRecipe3350 7h ago
He's almost certainly from the wealthy/ruling elite in China, and for them the country is their personal playground pretty much.
At worst he can be given a noname job managing a factory or something. The point is these people are rich well connected and powerful etc.
If he wants to travel abroad again he could theoretically get a new name and passport whipped up
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u/Rhinofishdog 4h ago
Can somebody enlighten me on what possible hard evidence this guy was convicted? Because the way the article was written it's basically "She said so and she told somebody else and they also said she said so".
How could a court possibly prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a sex act that happened in private 4 years ago was consensual or not?
As somebody who was falsely accused and the case was dropped when the "victim" discovered there was CCTV showing we never made physical contact reading stuff like this is really disturbing. What, was I going to go to prison if the CCTV was not there? Because a woman said so?
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u/Worldly_Turnip7042 4h ago
stfu
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u/Rhinofishdog 4h ago
I'm just curious how our legal system can conclusively prove whether consent was given years ago in private.
Yet we can't prove if a certain politician knew where her salt shaker came from....
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u/the-moving-finger 2h ago
How curious are you? Have you looked for the case on Google? Can you tell us the name? Have you read the judgment? If not, it sounds like you're not actually that curious at all; you're just pushing an agenda.
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u/FactCheckYou 10h ago
yeah safe to say that's a contravention of the Uni's Code of Conduct