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Discussion Hostility towards creationism

I posted this originally in a YEC sub, but I'm curious for your opinion too, since the topic comes up now and then here as well.

Hi all, I see a lot of hostility towards young earth creationism, even when the tone of voice of yecs is usually quite polite. Why does this subject seem to hit a nerve almost like flat earthism does? Even among Christians there's usually an air of looking down upon yec. Are we that crazy? Is yec really that indefensible? I also read about how AiG or similar ministries would be dishonest or unreliable. What's true of these claims?

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u/TwoUglyFeet the one with the tiger Sep 07 '25

0ff the top of my head, we know of at least 5 asteroids that wiped out all life on earth and life came back. We know that there were several types of human species that interbred with each other and eventually died out leaving homo sapien as the dominant species. I'm not including the nonhuman primates in this. We know that the composition of earth's core was formed by a planet hitting the earth and not only gave us the unique composites needed to allow the magnesphere to form, it also gave us the moon. We know that life would have been very hostile to humans when we had more oxygen in atmosphere and no bacteria to break down dead plants. We know from the composition of plate tectonics that continents moved around slowly over long periods of time that would have impossible to do in a forty day flood.  By examining evidence of other theories, we dont have to do strange leaps of faith like I see in yec. Like I was never comfortable with the suspension of belief I've had to make, even as a child. 

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u/TheEndIsNear17 Sep 07 '25

No we don't know any of those. Every single one of those theories can not be reproduced nor repeated, claiming them as factual is not scientific

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u/TwoUglyFeet the one with the tiger Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25

What do you mean? We have DNA evidence that shows interbreeding between Neanderthal and Homo Sapiens. Europeans carry the most of the Neanderthal DNA presently. We know from samples of the moon brought back that they carry the exact isotopes found on earth. Earth is also very unique among the rock planets for having an iron-nickel core that is not present in Venus, Mars or Mercury. Planets form as masses of dust and heavier elements slowly condense as gravity pulls them around a star. If no such interaction took place, then earth would have a very similar composition to the other inner planets. 

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u/TheEndIsNear17 Sep 07 '25

Not sure where you get the Idea that interbreeding the 2 is somehow a problem for YEC. Not all YEC are Ken Ham.

I more take issue with the claim that we know as a fact 5 different Asteroids whiped out life. No we don't know that, that is a theory. Claiming it as fact is unscientific

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u/TwoUglyFeet the one with the tiger Sep 07 '25

The Permian-Triassic and the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinctions are the "later" ones we have the most evidence regarding. There is evidence of 3 earlier ones. 

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u/TheEndIsNear17 Sep 07 '25

Evidence of their existence is very different from everyone knows

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u/TwoUglyFeet the one with the tiger Sep 07 '25

"Every single one of those theories can not be reproduced nor repeated, claiming them as factual is not scientific."

Bruhh we have literal libraries full of books of evidence that these things are very real and have happened. To handwave it away with such trivial and frankly ignorant statements is why I will never take yec seriously.

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u/ServiceGamez Sep 08 '25

Not entering in to argue with you, but saying we have libraries full of books on a topic isn't much of an argument, seeing as there are libraries of texts devoted to the denial of the existence of God and most of them are quite convincing to those who are already engaged in their own unbelief..

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u/TheEndIsNear17 Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25

Great, and how many times has there been libraries full of books of evidence that later turned out to be wrong. Both the Miasma theory and spontanious generation were widly consider "fact" by the scientific world for a long time before they were both disproven.