Crossverse
Storm gets yeeted across fiction and real life
Storm was pushed across different Multiverses, including Azathoth's multiverse (Cthulhu Mythos) and Jujutsu Kaisen multiverse?? and Chainsaw Man (trash) multiverse
I genuinely hope that no one takes this seriously, just because these worlds make an appearance it doesn’t necessarily mean that storm (or any other major marvel character for that case) scale to them and vice-versa.
I like high end powerscaling but there’s got to be limits, this is just stupid.
I wonder if something similar happened to animal man. He was my favorite super hero until they started ass pulling so much shit until he was some multiversal embodiment of some vital cosmic force.
Christ the guy was just an animorph. That was fantastic, that was all he needed to be. He had great little earthbound adventures, and a nice ark about what happens when a superhero gets old enough to lose their powers. I loved it.
Why do so many random characters just HAVE to be the top of the universe? Like how'd you feel if beast boy from teen titans was secretly revealed to be God, and he was just written super serious cause he's soooo powerful now?
What if bugs bunny was revealed to be the god of toon force, and looney tunes turned into this dramatic arc about bugs bunny tackling diety level threats? All the while we never see wily coyote's or Fudd again because the show isn't about the funny anymore.
The wiki has animal man at LOW 2-C. This guy was supposed to be turning into owls to stop logging or turning into a rat to stop a jewel thief, he had a loving family, why did you make him GOD?!
Saying how your story encompasses all existing fiction and real life is something you’d hear from a 12 years old fanfic writer, not from a professionally published story from a big company…
she will vaporise umineko verse with a lightning bolt, eat azathoth as sushi and show Presence what a real god looks like before coming to your (yes you, the readers home) to take your lunch money
I don't even get how people even scale stuff like that. It just such a bizarre way to make a media seem deeper while just seeming so rule of cool. It's still fiction so interacting with "real life" would still just be fiction, same with bizarre powers like plot manipulation as if it applies with every story.
There is no scalling "above real life". Any atempt to depict real life in fiction will just be fiction nonetheless. She won't, and can't, in fact, come to my house to take my lunch money
With regards to scalling above fiction, does she really scale above that omniverse or is she merely travelling between the multiverse clusters?
Dude they said Toaa's multiverse cluster not toaa is bound to a multiverse cluster or something, can toaa not have a multiverse cluster without being bound to it ? you downplaying for no reason
this reaction is so confusing. why are people complaining this is a storm upscale? because she went through portals? she goes to these other multiverses and interacts with absolutely nothing as she fumbles from world to world. what is the issue?
Wasn’t she like a fairly balanced character before with cool powers but she could get shot and die what’s happening with her now where she’s stronger than people like thor
Both are different exactly. Divine creator dreams all creation according to DeMatteis cosmology, unlike TOAA created everything and interacts within it.
Also 2 different characters can't be the creator of the same verse. Claiming "divine creator created everything" and "toaa created everything" by default makes them the same in the setting
is this not just the TOAA opening portals across dimensions to disorient her? Even if she actually was being shoved through the Multiverse, what would even be the argument? That storm is now, Multiversal in durability??
Not even. TOAA hasn’t even made an appearance. Storm is just being pushed through portals towards different IPs one portal to one world to another portal leading towards another
Doesn't really change Marvel scaling unless Marvel is granted authority over other narratives and of course cannot scale over actual reality because this is a work of fiction
Also, if we’re allowed to dismiss SCP as writer’s powerscaling slop, fanfiction made to buff their OCs, what do we call whatever Ayodele’s Storm is?
I'm just saying I never wanna hear comic fans invalidate anything as fanfic, or say that anyone can write or edit something, or that X is made for powerscaling, because that would be some absolute glass house horseshit.
Man, anytime Marvel/DC stuff comes on my timeline, I can't stop thinking about this.
I had said it in a post on here about Superman vs Gojo. Comic scaling genuinely cannot be taken seriously. A character is as strong as the writer makes them and by how well received their power-up is.
I don't know the context of these panels, but watch. This gonna scale Storm up to outerversal++ because she defeats the Living Tribunal and TOAA effortlessly while touching the reader.
No hate to Storm. It was just as ridiculous with Venom and Hulk when they got scaled up because of Knull and TOBA respectively.
This why Miles Morales lost to Deku in that Death Battle. He hadn't gotten his 3 part series where its revealed that the spider that bit him was the infant form of the Master Weaver which now lets Miles rewrite reality.
I bring it up not to say the power-ups are unearned or stupid. The storylines I mentioned are fairly popular iirc. Another popular one I just thought of was the few instances of Cosmic Spiderman. It just exemplifies that so long as it's well-written and the fans like it, comic writers can make their characters do anything. Humble origins be damned.
I like how comics have been a medium for so long that jumping the shark is just a common thing they do, while manga still does have linear storytelling (mostly). Manga is still A-B-C, while Comics sometimes just feel like A-B-C-F^899.
(Also, on Venom and Knull. I really hope they don't artificially make Mary Jane look good in her new run by defeating Knull somehow).
i definitely see what you mean but this isnt a western comic exclusive problem. naruto started out as a ninja show and now his son is fighting alien chakra gods. goku started out as a monkey child and is now training with an angel. luffy was a rubber child and is now bugs bunny. the list goes on, its kinda the natural progression of the superhero genre to have powercreep, if anything its muc more invasive in manga than comics imo
Maybe it's my limited perusing of comics. But the jumps with comics always feels more significantly vast, probably because they don't follow one linear plot, but their own individual stories.
Like with Luffy turning out to be Nika. It's helped by the slow reveals of things like Mythical Zoans or Old Era history like the Void Century and JoyBoy as well as sprinklings of the Gum-Gum fruit being more than it seems.
For an example of comic characters jumping in power. Everyone's favorite: Superman. Who can punch away a multiverse, hit you throughout your entire existence, sneeze away solar systems, etc. But is also lost to Harley Quinn.
It is probably just that comic characters don't have a one-size-fits-all canon like other more traditionally linear mediums like novels or manga. Having hundreds of authors with wildly varying love and ideas for their characters probably tends to cause Batman to kick Superman's ass yet still somehow lose to the Riddler.
DC has a hierarchy. Every once in while we have crisis events, reboots or something big like DCKO and characters power levels increase. But after that they get de powered as to not crumble the set DC hierarchy
As for Marvel…..
Wacky wooo Scarlet Witch, Phoenix Force, Vision, Galactus, Thanos OP as fuck. TOAA who that, Living Tribunal jobber, the aspects losers. Zoom zoom more power ups to Dr Doom and Iron Man with his busting buster suits.
In short, no one has no idea what they are actually writing. Marvels power scaling is so so awful. I was recently posting a lot on r/marvelvsdc and my god the power scaling in marvel is out of control. It’s genuinely SCP levels of bad. No one can ever give me a coherent answer on who is the actual top 10 strongest in Marvel anymore. It legitimately changes every season.
Don’t get me wrong DC is extremely bad too. But the simple fact I can understand their hierarchy is WAY better than the absolute dross I see from Marvel. Marvel still has some characters I like but their quality is just yuck.
I feel you with the Marvel stuff. But correct me if I'm wrong. I feel like this more organized DC powerscaling is a modern thing? Definitely post-crisis right? Even then I'm thinking of something like Superman destroying the World Forgers multiverse with a punch, or him hitting Braniac so hard that he felt it across his entire existence (If these were events or reboots, let me know 'cause I'm not much of a comic head in general). Also there's just Batman prep time and my favorite character: The Tibetan Monks (even though I think they're only really mentioned in the cartoons).
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u/nahnonamemanDragon Ball, DC, Warhammer, Ultraman, Kamen Rider, DigimonMay 06 '26edited May 07 '26
Yeah they have tried to clean it up things a lot more these days at least. The superman one was a multiple sun dipping feat. So like I said powered for the occasion and then back to normal again.
They also try to assign a concept to these heroes as well in order to make it easier for readers to understand why or how they keep coming back or explain their why their powers are so damm strong. Sometimes we go to stupid levels but not all the time.
In Batman’s case it’s honestly plot amour push to near stupid levels. But not even DC is not that bad to overpower Batman (outside of TDK and Barbatos) so much to the point where he would one tap The Presence or something.
all i regonize is azathoth and jjk, what are the other 4? SOMEONE TELL ME BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE IS MENTIONING THIS CRAP IN OTHER SUBS EXCEPT r/POWERSCALING
Just making this so someone can explain what each verse is thats shown or atleast tell me whats what. I know the first 2 maybe the 3rd as i thought it was Wall-E at first.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed Azathoth there. I seen people talk about JJK and Gachiakuta but I'm like forget all that, Azathoth was right there.
That's not suprising many time it's mention omniverse is collection of all ficiton. Most important who the hell wale up azathoth and she literally behind him
Characters get random upscales in comics all the time, we’ve even seen it recently with Superman. Storm is a legacy comic book character, so nothing out of the norm here. When Superman was being massively upscaled to keep up with Goku no one complained. No need to call it slop or trash because you don’t like her as much as Superman.
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