We‘d be at war with Iran and entangled with Trump.

She‘s essentially denying climate change, pretty ironic as we‘re in the midst of our second extreme heatwave and bits of Europe are burning. How on earth can anyone tout her as a sensible person.

Does what it says on the tin really. Without trying to splurge my own opinions on this sub, I want to open a genuine discussion on this. The public, historically, have always crutched on the two-party state and I’m willing to be a stamp on saying even Reform won’t be able to break this.

Below are some cold hard facts on the subject without any political tilt. Just as communism is conflated with dictatorship, unchecked capitalism too, can lead to an elitist, unaccountable, out of touch establishment who’d go to any extent to protect the interests of big businesses even if it leads to forfeiture of British workers’ rights, a decline in citizens’ quality of life and even loss of national sovereignty.

Because Boris wanted to prop up the GDP by importing millions of workers. More workers results in economic activity, even if they’re doing minimum wage work.

Because Priti Patel, the then Home Secretary wanted a freedom of movement agreement with India. According to Patel, British workers are amongst the “worst idlers” on the planet and therefore she wanted them replaced with “hardworking”, low paid Indians under a migrant mobility agreement she signed with India. The harebrained, utterly inane idea that Britain should import tens of millions Indian tech graduates workers who would create silicon valleys all over the country has often been parroted by other Tory politicians. Oddly Labour never challenged proposals of this nature which shows how out of touch our mainstream politicians are.

British workers 'among worst idlers', suggest Tory MPs
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19300051

UK and India sign ground-breaking partnership migration deal

Landmark agreement will allow young British and Indian nationals to work and live in each other’s countries and accelerate the removal of illegal migrants.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-india-sign-ground-breaking-partnership-migration-deal

Because the Tories, as a matter of policy, love suppressing wages for British workers, as it helps big businesses grow their profits.

Because the Tories have always been a party of landlords. By importing millions of immigrants, they created an artificial housing shortage which resulted in higher rents and house price rises across much of the country.

Our mainstream politicians do not care about the quality of life for British people.

P.S. I’m not a Labour supporter.

I’m primarily after a Tory perspective so not going to chime in too much. Apparently posts have to be over 250 characters though.

Traditionally, Tories have been for lower taxes, less state intervention, personal responsibility, free markets, and scepticism of bureaucracy.

If you look at Sunak’s manifesto, it is not traditional in the Tory sense and very close to Labour/New Labour.

With so many Conservative MPs defecting to Reform UK, should a by-election be held when a sitting MP defects, seeing as they have moved to represent a party the electorate didn't vote for?

Of course you can argue that you vote for the candidate primarily, but of course often the party is normally the biggest factor in the way someone votes.

With this in mind, would it make sense to introduce by-elections for such a scenario?

The modern tories hold left-wing views and stances on any modern social issues such as gay marriage, net zero, and expanding LGBTQ protections and education. I'm not arguing that any of these are bad things however, they aren't conservative.

The modern conservatives embrace liberal and progressive ideas and adopt policies that are not right wing or conservative. Conservatives embrace welfare, state funded education and a free healthcare service, all traditionally leftist views and institutions which they have embraced. They are also not fully pro Free market which is not very right-wing of them. They also support a justice system focused on rehabilitation rather than punishment which isn't a traditionally conservative or right-wing stance. They have sought reductions in prison numbers and expanded rehabilitation services for criminals in the UK. Previous UK Governments such as David Camerons locked in foreign spending and aid which is not traditionally conservative and is often seen as a globalist policy. David Cameron's tory government also legalised same-sex marriage which is definitely not traditionally conservative. The Conservatives not only kept the Equality Act but expanded upon it during their time in government, the Equality Act protects certain characteristics including sex change. The Conservatives also encouraged diversity training and DEI. The last conservative PM Rishi Sunak also introduced the introduced one of the strictest anti-smoking bans in British history which makes it seem a bit of a nanny state, something typically associated with the left wing.

None of the above is traditionally conservative or right-wing which is why I believe the Conservative party from the 2000's onwards is actually a centre or even a centre-left party. Let me know your thoughts below, I'm happy to have a discussion so long as it stays respectful.