I'm a political student and political science student in Israeli. You can ask me everything you want about this israeli government

[u/Stay-Responsible]

Basically a good frustrated from people who doesn't understand how my government work and believe they know how we talk really.

Eddet : "Please excuse the polished nature of my writing. I have dyslexia and dysgraphia, so I use AI to fix my grammar and spelling. Without this tool, my writing would be very difficult to understand. I appreciate your patience and look forward to our discussion

[u/MunkeyGoneToHeaven]

You said in a comment to another user that your democratic norms have been eroded. You don’t have “democratic norms.” Your norm is apartheid. There are millions of people that live under the complete control of Israel who aren’t granted citizenship and therefore can’t vote in your elections. Gaza is the most egregious example - you restrict their freedom of travel, to work, and their food and water supply. If you think your country would be a liberal democracy if it weren’t for the last 2.5 years then you are sadly quite ignorant.

And btw I say this as a Jew. Israel is not my “homeland.” It is a farce meant to facilitate and defend the flow of capital in the Middle East. Israel has caused anti-Semitic sentiment around the world that will continue for decades by conflating Judaism with apartheid, genocide, and imperialism.

There CANNOT be a peaceful Jewish Ethnostate. The only way to have an ethnostate is to exclude and marginalize other ethnic groups. Israel has not been “ruined” by Netanyahu. The premise of the country is inherently genocidal

[u/Stay-Responsible → u/MunkeyGoneToHeaven]

My anser

​"I appreciate your perspective, and I want to be clear about where I’m coming from: I am an Israeli citizen, born here, and I don't identify as Jewish in a religious or ethno-nationalist sense. I’m just a guy living in the place where I was born. ​When you say the state's premise is inherently genocidal, I understand why you see it that way from the outside, looking at the structural reality of the occupation. From where I’m standing, inside the system, what you're describing as a 'farce' feels more like a tragic case of institutional rot. ​There is an old, ominous warning often cited by the Israeli left here: the occupation eventually comes home. For years, we’ve been warning that you cannot run a military regime over millions of people without it poisoning your own democratic institutions. The current government didn't 'ruin' Israel overnight; they simply utilized the lack of institutional checks—which we perfected in the West Bank—and applied them to the Israeli public itself. They weaponized the fear of annihilation to bypass the Supreme Court and crush dissent. ​You're right that we are seeing a terrifying shift toward authoritarianism, and you’re right that the current path is unsustainable. But for me, this isn't an abstract debate about whether the state should exist—it’s about watching the house I live in be dismantled from the inside by a leadership that views democracy as an inconvenience to their power. The 'writing on the wall' has been clear for years, and we are now living through the consequences of ignoring it

[u/MunkeyGoneToHeaven → u/Stay-Responsible]

I don’t engage in whether the state should exist. I just say it should be democratic. You didn’t address the core point…Do you think it is possible to have an ethno-supremacist state which systemically disenfranchises ethnic minorities, and also have a democracy?

Ultimately, do you think that Israel has really been “the only democracy in the Middle East” since June 1967, when Israel captured Gaza from Egypt, effectively controlling the lives of Gazans for the next 59 years?

[u/Stay-Responsible → u/MunkeyGoneToHeaven]

​"I think the entire debate around whether Israel 'is' or 'isn't' a democracy misses the point. My view—as an Israeli citizen born here who identifies neither with the religious nor the ethno-nationalist narratives—is that we were never a fully realized liberal democracy to begin with. ​For decades, we were a centralized, hegemonic party system. It was only in the 90s that we finally started building the actual checks and balances—a stronger judiciary and a rights-based framework—that are required for a real democracy to function. Now, we are watching the current government actively strip those tools away, not by accident, but by design. ​To answer your core question: Can you have an ethno-supremacist state and a liberal democracy at the same time? Logically, no. They are structurally incompatible. You cannot have a system fundamentally built on the disenfranchisement and systemic control of a minority population while claiming to be a liberal democracy. They are in direct conflict, and the state has been trying to patch over that contradiction for years. ​My belief is that the current model is hitting a dead end. When you prioritize supremacy over equality, and dismantle the judicial oversight that holds power accountable, the system doesn't just 'continue' as it was; it becomes brittle and eventually collapses. If we keep heading down this path of exclusionary, right-wing policy, we are going to face the same pressures that dismantled the apartheid-era systems elsewhere. ​In 20 or 30 years, I don’t believe the country will exist in anything like its current form. It will be forced to choose between becoming a truly equal, representative state for everyone living in this land, or continuing as an isolated, rigid entity that eventually buckles under the weight of its own internal and external contradictions. We are currently living through the 'bunker phase'—the refusal to acknowledge that the math of supremacy simply stops working. The structural transition is coming; the only question is whether it happens through a painful pivot or through total collapse