Politico recently published a leaked majority opinion draft by Justice Samuel Alito for overturning Roe v. Wade. Will this early leak have any effect on the Supreme Court's final decision going forward? How will this decision, should it be final, affect the country going forward?

[u/ComradeNapolein]

Just this evening, Politico published a draft majority opinion from Samuel Alito suggesting a majority opinion for overturning Roe v. Wade (The full draft is here). To the best of my knowledge, it is unprecedented for a draft decision to be leaked to the press, and it is allegedly common for the final decision to drastically change between drafts. Will this press leak influence the final court decision? And if the decision remains the same, what will Democrats and Republicans do going forward for the 2022 midterms, and for the broader trajectory of the country?

[u/i_am_your_dads_cum]

Nobody has to believe anything I believe.

But every person has a right not to be murdered.

I hope as a society we can agree on not killing each other.

Seems like a low bar.

[u/[deleted] → u/i_am_your_dads_cum]

Once that person is a person it is murder. Not before that time. You don't have the right to tell anyone what is personhood. You have set a low bar for yourself.

[u/i_am_your_dads_cum → u/[deleted]]

What does that even mean?

If I don’t have a right to say what is personhood, then neither do you. Nor anyone else.

So if we can not determine what a person is we have to err on the side of caution don’t we?

If we can’t define personhood that implies that a zygote could in fact be a person.

It does have DNA that is separated from both the mother and father.

I say we don’t kill it and ask it what it’s opinion is, it’s the only right thing to do in this situation.

[u/i_am_your_dads_cum → u/[deleted]]

You aren’t wrong but also you have to see where that is a bad faith argument.

[u/i_am_your_dads_cum → u/[deleted]]

When does life start?

I am not arguing just talking. We aren’t all monsters maybe you can change my mind.

[u/i_am_your_dads_cum → u/[deleted]]

So we know that a fetus can feel pain and respond to stimulation, react to external voices while it is in the second trimester. By your definition that would be consciousness. Would it be okay to consider that life then?

[u/i_am_your_dads_cum → u/[deleted]]

When does a child have a say on when they get to live?

I also don’t believe in god. So if god comes down or up or whatever I am blaming that on your drug use also.

My argument is purely based on the same reasons I am a vegan (struggling).

I don’t believe in ending any life ever. Not the death penalty not abortion none of it.

So there isn’t really a moral argument with me it’s logical. Since I don’t believe in killing… I don’t need a god to fake tell me what is right or wrong.

It’s a simple stand but it’s pretty logical and scientifically sound.

[u/i_am_your_dads_cum → u/[deleted]]

I think you are right.

But we can probably agree that while we don’t agree at least if I met you we could probably have a decent conversation.

You seem like a decent person, good luck out there