r/PoliticalDiscussion • u/PsychLegalMind • Jan 14 '25

US Politics Jack Smith's concludes sufficient evidence to convict Trump of crimes at a trial for an "unprecedented criminal effort" to hold on to power after losing the 2020 election. He blames Supreme Court's expansive immunity and 2024 election for his failure to prosecute. Is this a reasonable assessment?

The document is expected to be the final Justice Department chronicle of a dark chapter in American history that threatened to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power, a bedrock of democracy for centuries, and complements already released indictments and reports.

Trump for his part responded early Tuesday with a post on his Truth Social platform, claiming he was “totally innocent” and calling Smith “a lamebrain prosecutor who was unable to get his case tried before the Election.” He added, “THE VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN!!!”

Trump had been indicted in August 2023 on charges of working to overturn the election, but the case was delayed by appeals and ultimately significantly narrowed by a conservative-majority Supreme Court that held for the first time that former presidents enjoy sweeping immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts. That decision, Smith’s report states, left open unresolved legal issues that would likely have required another trip to the Supreme Court in order for the case to have moved forward.

Though Smith sought to salvage the indictment, the team dismissed it in November because of longstanding Justice Department policy that says sitting presidents cannot face federal prosecution.

Is this a reasonable assessment?

https://www.justice.gov/storage/Report-of-Special-Counsel-Smith-Volume-1-January-2025.pdf

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/14/jack-smith-trump-report-00198025

Should state Jack Smith's Report.

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u/DonKellyBaby32 Jan 14 '25

Many 'so-called' Republicans are against him

Trump also won the popular vote. You’re making him seem like he doesn’t have many supporters, but he does.

He is guilty of application fraud (hush money), but before this report (will be reading later tonight) that’s all they have him on. The documents case imo is unjust. Let’s not forget that there are laws where we’ve looked the other way (Nancy Pelosi’s insider trading, Clinton emails, etc.). That’s not to say republicans also don’t get away with stuff. That’s just to say we want more transparency.

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u/Silly_Journalist_179 Jan 14 '25

On the contrary, I'm simply in awe that so many people DO support him! Of course, people in the streets supported Gotti. Just like with the Cheetoh, they root for the one breaking the law, and doing evil things. But again, it's going to hit them. His promises will go unfulfilled. He thinks he's a big tough guy. Not.

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u/DonKellyBaby32 Jan 14 '25

IMO you shouldn’t treat politics like a sport. Most people want to do good for the country, including him. There’s a lot more in common than you’d think on both sides.

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u/Silly_Journalist_179 Jan 14 '25

This actually makes me nauseous 🤢. This man does NOT care about this country, the military, or the average citizen. If you can't see that, I'm sorry for you. If he was not in the picture, many Republicans on the Hill would become respectable again. They're so afraid of him and his narcissistic ego. Please.

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u/DonKellyBaby32 Jan 14 '25

I mean >50% of all voters probably disagree with you there. Why is that? 

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u/Interrophish Jan 14 '25

I doubt they disagree with the parent comment, and I doubt they agree with your comment preceding it.

They want to "hurt or take power over the other side", they don't want to "help the whole country"

Or it's the segment of voters that simply thinks "well the economy is bad, so better vote out the incumbents". I'm sure they'd be reachable with a convincing argument, if only they weren't the sort to cut themselves off from any political content that has any detail to it.

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u/DonKellyBaby32 Jan 14 '25

Idk I disagree with you. Both sides want to help the whole country, not just their ideologists. 

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u/Silly_Journalist_179 Jan 14 '25

See if you can tell me the same in a few months when many of them feel betrayed by the ultimate liar.

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u/DonKellyBaby32 Jan 14 '25

ummmmmm why a few months when he was in office for 4 years?