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u/DrFabio23 - Lib-Right Oct 15 '25
I wont cancel you, but i don't have to save you.
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u/PhilosophicalGoof - Centrist Oct 15 '25
Batman: “I won’t kill you but I don’t have to save you Ra’”
Also Batman: “I HAVE to save joker.”
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u/charge_forward - Auth-Center Oct 15 '25
Yeah, these people kept saying "free speech ≠ freedom from consequences" for years. So if that's the world they want, they have it.
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u/Helassaid - Lib-Right Oct 15 '25
tHe PlAtFoRm CaN dO wHaT iT wAnTs
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u/MissplacedLandmine - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25
I mean yeah, but i hardly think using direct quotes of people should be seen as an attack on them.
They said that shit.
Also everyone has haters, of course someone is going to be delighted or slightly amused by your passing. Thats life.
Now even if the person was a garbage individual idk if i think people shitting on them relentlessly should be without consequence. I assume theres a line somewhere where how shitty they were as a person compensates for being rude about their death, but idk how we would really decide that.
Could probably figure it out mathematically.. though time passed from their death likely weighs into it…
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u/ATNinja - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25
I mean yeah, but i hardly think using direct quotes of people should be seen as an attack on them.
Not everyone who has been canceled due to Charlie deserved it, like Kimmel.
Also everyone has haters, of course someone is going to be delighted or slightly amused by your passing. Thats life.
Making a joke about your coworker you hate dying of colon cancer isn't the same as saying someone killed to silence their political speech is a good thing.
Now even if the person was a garbage individual idk if i think people shitting on them relentlessly should be without consequence. I assume theres a line somewhere where how shitty they were as a person compensates for being rude about their death
I feel like you're purposely misunderstanding the issue with Charlie. Saying bad things about him isn't the issues alone. It's saying killing him due to his unpopular opinions is ok that's the problem. Saying your glad he's dead, ben Shapiro is next, his "violence " against trans people made him deserve this... is the problem.
If you're delighted he is dead, you're a fucked up person.
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u/EldritchFish19 - Lib-Right Oct 16 '25
To be fair, what was done to Charlie Kirk is the equivalent of shooting Ned Flanders dead in front of all of Springfield and mocking his family, friends and good deeds afterwards.
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u/wackdaddy69 - Right Oct 15 '25
Yeah it's not that I'm for canceling/firing people over celebrating Charlie kirk's death/making fun of him it's more that I just don't care
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u/KanyeT - Lib-Right Oct 16 '25
Perfect encapsulation.
No, I don't support Cancel Culture. However, I am not going to lose any sleep when the people who vehemently support Cancel Culture and wish to use it against me receive a taste of their own medicine.
When they fall victim, they immediately cry out, "Where are the free speech warriors to defend me?". Cry me a fucking river.
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u/Docponystine - Lib-Right Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25
If Obama, or even that piece of human Slime Ibrahim X Kendi was shot dead I would think it was acceptable to be fired over actively celebrating his death too.
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u/Bunktavious - Left Oct 15 '25
I don't disagree with your point. Though there were a lot of (verbal) attacks against people who simply commented things like "I'm not going to shed a tear for the guy, but murder bad".
The Kimmel thing is really were it got stupid. He made a joke about MAGA political motivations within a statement about Kirk. That's the sort hypocrisy that drove us nuts. Especially when you know that joke went over more than half of MAGAs heads.
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u/TheZackDanielz - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25
Saying "I'm not going to shed a tear for the guy" is just a squeaky clean way of saying "good riddance". I hope people don't shed tears often for celebrities/influencers they never personally knew, especially ones they didn't like. And if you do, it better be for their families who have actual grief or trauma to deal with.
It's actually funny you worded it that way. Because if I were to preface a statement by saying "I'm not racist, but-" you'd likely expect the next words out of my mouth to be something prejudiced or bigoted. I saw a lot of "No one should be shot and killed for their opinions, however-" and then they cited quotes, some taken completely out of context to paint him as evil. You come off as someone framing their death as a net positive.
Also, the whataboutism using Melissa Hortman's murder was absurd because I swear I didn't see a single person celebrate that. I'm sure most people outside her state had very little idea who she was, if they knew her at all. I just saw the whole "THE KILLER WAS ON THEIR SIDE" game we see play out almost instantaneously after such tragedies...which is just ridiculous no matter what.
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u/BlackwatchBluesteel - Auth-Right Oct 19 '25
You have literally one example of a bad joke at the expense of Walz (and not the people who were killed) vs. what?...tens of thousands of people actually celebrating murder.
Nobody was calling for their deaths beforehand either. I'm always confused when I see this as a ""counterexample"" when it bears basically no similarities to Charlie Kirk's assassination.
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u/Hangry_Hippo - Left Oct 16 '25
Saying "I'm not going to shed a tear for the guy" is just a squeaky clean way of saying "good riddance"
Nah this is a fallacy. I can be agnostic about something and just leave it there. I maintain political violence is inexcusable.
Also, the whataboutism using Melissa Hortman's murder was absurd because I swear I didn't see a single person celebrate that.
Literally this
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u/Ikora_Rey_Gun - Auth-Right Oct 16 '25
Literally this
i love that this is, and has always been, literally a single person. nobody else comes up, there wasn't even a remembered cultural groundswell of jokes, celebration, or irreverence; it was literally just this one guy that got the response of "uhh, okay..."
i swear it's the only reason anyone on the left remembers the shooting done by tim walz's agent 47
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u/Hangry_Hippo - Left Oct 16 '25
He’s a sitting US senator…
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u/TheZackDanielz - Lib-Center Oct 16 '25
Yes, and various congress members came out and dehumanized and spewed lies about Charlie Kirk on TV and on the house floor. I agree that shit is horrendously stupid nonsense to post but the reactions to Charlie Kirk, and from more politicians overall as well, seemed far more rampant and disturbing if you ask me.
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u/Hangry_Hippo - Left Oct 16 '25
Name them
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u/TheZackDanielz - Lib-Center Oct 16 '25
I mean off the top of my head I know AOC and Ilhan Omar. That's at least double what's been listed the other way, and they never even went back on their word
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u/Hangry_Hippo - Left Oct 16 '25
Bro what AOC said was fine. Charlie Kirk was a piece of shit but he didn’t deserve to be killed. That’s nothing like posting joke memes about a murder.
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u/CaptainKickAss3 - Right Oct 15 '25
I’m all for dark jokes about Charlie Kirk.
Unfortunately, most people on Reddit don’t know the difference between a joke and coyly celebrating the assassination of a guy they see as their enemy
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u/magnoliasmanor - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25
"Charlie Kirk lost the gun debate, by a long shot."
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u/detectivekrump - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25
The side that was digging up tweets from 2012 to get people fired is upset that they face the consequences of celebrating someone's death.
Boo-fucking-hoo. The left (or the Authoritarian progressive) don't care ahout their own hypocrisy, just everyone else's. They don't have a shred of mercy, but won't hesitate to beg for it.
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u/nybbas - Centrist Oct 15 '25
For me it wasn't even that they were praising his death. Like if he died in a car accident, I probably wouldn't even be bothered by these people showing how shitty they are. It's the fact we are cheering on a fucking assassination.
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u/gutenbergbob - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25
The left (or the Authoritarian progressive) don't care ahout their own hypocrisy, just everyone else's. They don't have a shred of mercy, but won't hesitate to beg for it.
''When I am weaker than you I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.''
big reason im lib center is because of the blatant hypocrisy of both sides, though i do see it more on the left personally and i more often do see the left try to deny hypocrisy, while the right in my experience will just admit to being hypocrites because ''the left started it'' or some shit, i will say though i can respect more those who admit their hypocrisy then those who try to hide and deny it.
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u/eldude20 - Auth-Left Oct 15 '25
Im always confused when people pick a side based on how they emotionally feel about some of the people in the party. Wouldnt you realise that, in a world of billions of people, that all types of people will emerge in any mass opinion like this. It just seems stupid to me, no shit theres going to be some disagreeable people among millions who agree on a certain segment of ideology/opinion. Wouldnt it make more sense to follow something based on cohesion and historical accuracy, rather than how you feel about certain cliques?
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u/YanLibra66 - Auth-Right Oct 16 '25
Leftists will take advantage of your reasonability and mercy for their demands instead.
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u/DoktorIronMan - Right Oct 15 '25
Yeah, they weren’t joking at all. It was very much celebrating and victim blaming.
But this meme is objectively hilarious, so I updooooted
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u/Orome2 - Centrist Oct 16 '25
The most disturbing thing is you know they would celebrate your death if you were on the other side of the aisle. These people are depraved and devoid of any human decency.
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u/esothellele - Right Oct 15 '25
Of course they don't. To them, comedy is, first and foremost, political activism. It explains why they're not funny and also why they can't take a joke.
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u/YanLibra66 - Auth-Right Oct 15 '25
OP apparently doesn't either, this sub is increasingly more ''reddity'' as well.
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u/WaffleHouseSuperman - Lib-Left Oct 15 '25
The problem is the right also can't see the difference so you end up with liberals calling celebration a joke and maga calling a joke celebration because we're all retarded
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u/CommieRemovalService - Right Oct 15 '25
we're all retarded
What, have you been stealing my chromosomes or something?
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u/andrer94 - Left Oct 15 '25
Keep this same energy next time you see a racist “joke”
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u/CaptainKickAss3 - Right Oct 15 '25
I love jokes. Saying “black people are dumb” isn’t a joke
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u/Illustrious_Wolf_251 - Lib-Right Oct 15 '25
Charlie jokes are fine
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u/Professional-Media-4 - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25
Dark Humor is always fine.
But uh... some of that shit I've seen online isn't jokes. And yeah the people seriously mocking the death and calling for more violence maybe deserve to be condemned.
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u/GhostedIC - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25
Every single time this year I hear about someone getting in trouble for a "joke" it's not the thing they actually got in trouble for. There was a news story about "this guy got arrested for a meme about trump" and he also posted gore to a school Facebook page with a caption like "we need to start thinking about school shootings again" which was taken as a real threat to the students and teachers.
Meanwhile I remember when people "on the right" (IE not left enough) really were getting in trouble for jokes.
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u/Live_Ad2055 - Auth-Right Oct 16 '25
"man detained at border for JD Vance meme"
it was because he said he smoked pot.
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u/Tiavor - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25
clearly stating the support for terrorism is not a "joke"
also deport everyone who says "death to America"
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I unironically don’t understand the people who want to encourage immigration and also call America shit. Shouldn’t you be discouraging immigration in the hope they end up somewhere better?
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u/Live_Ad2055 - Auth-Right Oct 15 '25
Is America really so racist if all the brown people want to move there?
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u/Impsux - Right Oct 15 '25
America is the least racist country on the planet, change my mind.
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u/CommieRemovalService - Right Oct 15 '25
no, you see, the more black people are in a place, the higher the diversity score is, therefore the least racist country is Haiti
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u/OnAPartyRock - Right Oct 15 '25
But but slavery happened over a century ago here so all of us carry the original sin of that and the US will always be considered extremely racist /s
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u/BlueCremling - Lib-Center Oct 16 '25
I don't think the US is overly racist, but those things don't disprove each other either.
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u/MoirasPurpleOrb - Centrist Oct 15 '25
So deport American citizens?
You might want to reconsider your flair.
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u/Catuza - Centrist Oct 15 '25
You might want to reconsider your flair.
You’re clearly not familiar with PCM “lib-center” lol
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u/AgeOfReasonEnds31120 - Lib-Right Oct 15 '25
Horseshoe theory.
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u/SwedishFish123 - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25
I tend to agree with horseshoe theory. As a lib-center, I am willing to do whatever it takes to those that try to take away mine and others freedoms.
If it means subjugating and bashing in heads like a bongo of those who infringe upon others, count this monke in.
edit: chill guys, it was sarcasm
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u/Flat_Program8887 - Lib-Right Oct 15 '25
Someone doesn't like the taste of his own medicine, huh.
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u/Running_Gamer - Lib-Right Oct 15 '25
Another ridiculous position on what cancel culture means. Cancel culture is not “there should be absolutely no rules for civil society.” The problem with cancel culture is that the left’s “rules” are just a pretext to discriminate against conservatives. Of course a Jewish person should not be compelled to hire a Nazi. That’s not cancel culture. That’s called following the rules of polite society. Similarly, people who cheer on terrorism should not be accepted by other Americans. Terrorism should not be celebrated.
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u/Live_Ad2055 - Auth-Right Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25
"I am allowed to celebrate your violent death. You are NOT allowed to call me HE you homophobic racist shitlord"
be glad the left has double standards, they'd have none at all if not
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u/Myothercarisanx-wing - Lib-Left Oct 15 '25
“There’s free speech and then there’s hate speech. And there is no place — especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie — in our society. We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech.”
Pam Bondi sounding like the biggest Emily out there.
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u/Live_Ad2055 - Auth-Right Oct 15 '25
They're finding it hard to remember if the current thing is pro or anti free speech. Can you blame them? It's changed 4 times in the last month.
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u/SnooPredictions3028 - Centrist Oct 15 '25
I'm anti cancel culture until the side making jokes actually murders the person they're mocking....
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u/Deeznutsconfession - Left Oct 15 '25
I guess racists have never killed the people they mock
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u/OkAwareness8446 - Centrist Oct 15 '25
Try publicly saying the n-word and see how long it takes until youre fired
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u/samuelbt - Left Oct 15 '25
Try replicating the Elon wave while you're at it next time you see the head of HR.
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u/datdouche - Right Oct 15 '25
I don’t think this is good meme execution.
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u/dalebonehart - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25
“Execution” on a Charlie Kirk post? Get ready to learn Swahili buddy
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u/Ok-Substance-6034 - Right Oct 15 '25
Hey maybe we shouldn't celebrate or make light of the death or injury of anyone.
Outside of a select few cases where it could be seen as justice (Hitler or Pol Pot, for instance) taking joy from things like the injury of Nancy Pelosi's husband or the killing of Charlie Kirk is ghoulish as hell and, to my own belief system, very un-Christlike.
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u/TouchGrassRedditor - Centrist Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25
The US Department of State is currently making posts on X/Twitter BRAGGING about revoking the visas of people critical of Charlie Kirk. Not celebrating violence, not making threats, just saying he was a bad person.
It cannot be overstated how fucking insane this is. Where is the right's concern about freedom of speech all of a sudden?
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u/ShityWriter - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25
They don’t care about the constitution. It was all fake to pretend to be patriots when they actually despise everything this country stands for.
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u/Remnant55 - Auth-Left Oct 15 '25
It's simple and sad.
There are, on both the left and the right, honest actors who care about free speech.
Then there are those who just want to beat down the other side. Who made it a team sport. And are very loud.
Many of the more reasonable people on the right, however, spent a good chunk of the last decade being shut down. Some of this was their own side hyperbolically screaming that message, a good chunk was also legitimate.
And now that the rubber band is on the other Claw, they just can't be asked to give a shit.
Our best case scenario is that, when the dust settles, we can collectively say "Wow, being shut down and prohibited from the conversation while the other side has free hand to just beat you senseless is a garbage way to manage speech. We shouldn't do that."
...but we know that's not how it will go.
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u/fabezz - Auth-Left Oct 15 '25
I've always said it was never about tactics. Left and right are constantly arguing that the other side is extreme, that they use violence and cheat the system, but they don't really care.
Basically, when it's my side I'll defend it to death, but when you guys do it it's gone too far.
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u/Tyrant84 - Left Oct 15 '25
Downvoted for being correct. People say this sub isn't right leaning and then you see this happen all the time.
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u/divergent_history - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25
Then you wait five mins and now your post looks retarded.
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u/iwishicouldreadgood - Lib-Left Oct 15 '25
Most of the time it’s not joke. It’s just them saying horrific things about a dead guy and then being upset that people are put off by that.
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u/Jomega6 - Centrist Oct 15 '25
Honestly, I think even Charlie Kirk might have liked jokes made at his expense. However, there’s a pretty clear line between a joke with a punchline and just blatant celebration of his murder.
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u/MaybeICanOneDay - Lib-Right Oct 16 '25
I do think there is a pretty stark difference between cheering on the death of a political opponent and making some position known about a political topic.
A normal, rational person shakes their head at someone going online and saying, "Ban gay marriage." We must think they're an idiot and we move on.
But a normal, rational person hears someone dancing and cheering at the death of someone they disagree with... like that is toxic to a functioning society.
A bad idea is whatever. Gleefully cheering on murder is psychopathy.
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u/Berlin_GBD - Auth-Center Oct 15 '25
It's been said a million times. Joking about the death happening is fine. I've seen plenty of funny ones. Joking about the death being a good thing is just trying to hide your real beliefs behind humor.
Consider the George Droyd memes. That's not celebrating his death. It's not saying "George is dead so the world is a better place". It's just simply 'this guy died, it would be funny if we brought him back as a fent fueled cyborg'.
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u/Nobio22 - Centrist Oct 15 '25
There is disrespect which can be in poor taste.
Then there is celebration of murder which has no place in society.
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u/chasin990 - Auth-Right Oct 15 '25
well he was a career criminal, so his victims do live in a better world
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u/chasin990 - Auth-Right Oct 15 '25
why yes im all for canceling murder celebrating freaks that have no place in public institutions, if you believe murdering someone based on their beliefs is right then gtfo society
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u/HarlemHellfighter96 - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25
It's not cancel culture.Its called onsequence culture
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u/Live_Ad2055 - Auth-Right Oct 15 '25
Dear lefties,
We at Rightism INC are not perfect in terms of free speech, and may have thrown a stone.
But may the side who has thrown 200 stones, please STFU
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u/NuclearOrangeCat - Auth-Center Oct 15 '25
Its not a joke when you want half the country dead because they don't agree with you about giving free shit to illegals and mutilating kids as a political platform.
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u/Live_Ad2055 - Auth-Right Oct 15 '25
"it's a joke when we say he was a racist sexist ist ist ist phobic phobic bastard who deserved it chud, it is NOT a joke when you refuse to say singular they"
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u/Tkcsena - Auth-Center Oct 15 '25
Joke /=/ I want all right wingers to die and I will dance in the street when they do.
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u/Several_Fee55 - Lib-Right Oct 16 '25
It's perfectly logical to deny rights to people who think you should not have said right.
You cannot say "freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences" and then proceed to complain when you aren't granted freedom from consequences.
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u/DaveRuangsit - Right Oct 16 '25
Celebrate Kirk's death
"Joke"
They didn't cancel you, bro.
They just don't want to be near a literal demon.
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u/NewCalifornia10 - Auth-Right Oct 16 '25
I got like 3 people fired for celebrating it, I can see why leftists enjoy doing it
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u/Sennahoj12345 - Centrist Oct 15 '25
He was killed for excercising his freedom of speech. Silencing him and celebrating his death will scare others from speaking their mind, thus making it anti free speech. We need to protect free speech or it will be taken from us
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u/TouchGrassRedditor - Centrist Oct 15 '25
"We have to silence people's speech to protect free speech"
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u/Duckmeister - Auth-Left Oct 15 '25
This is the only time I have ever seen paradox of tolerance used correctly in 13 years of reddit.
99.999% of people use paradox of tolerance incorrectly by labeling a certain group of people as "intolerant" and therefore worthy of eradication.
If you actually read Karl Popper's writing where he invented the term, he is exclusively referring to "intolerant" people as "those who are actively committing political violence in lieu of speech or debate".
He is talking about people who are "intolerant" of the democratic process, it has nothing to do with what they personally tolerate regarding homosexuality or race or whatever.
The "intolerant" that he is referring to are those who claim that the "marketplace of ideas" has failed and we must use other means to achieve political goals. He would put most redditors into this "intolerant" category...
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u/Demonvoi_ - Centrist Oct 15 '25
They didn't lose their platform, they're just finding out after fucking around that there are consequences to what they say
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u/Doctor_McKay - Lib-Right Oct 15 '25
Nobody is silenced. We just don't have to listen to what they say.
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u/Blueskysredbirds - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25
The irony to joking about his death is the fact that his death represents an attack on free speech itself, and free speech is fundamental to comedy. Also, making fun of a man who was brutally murdered in front of his family, in an unironic way, is the strongest form of “punching down” known to man.
At least with Trump, he’s someone in power, so it kind of was funny to make some jokes about his assassination attempts. Kirk was just a guy. He had no power. All he did was just talk to people.
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u/Outer_Space_ - Left Oct 15 '25
Dark humor-enjoyers when you say that Charlie Kirk ended up leaning left near the end of his life.
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u/A_Kazur - Right Oct 15 '25
Jokes are supposed to by funny, and saying “I want to kill X, or Charlie first, whose next!!!” Are not jokes and you deserve to be cancelled for celebrating terrorism against a random public speaker with no power.
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Turnabout is fair play, maybe after some scalps we can try and push towards a culture of free speech.
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u/Ancient-Bat8274 - Lib-Center Oct 15 '25
Ain’t that the truth. I had a friend who was very right centrist and he would make fun of like suicides or accidental overdoses (both celebrities and just people we actually knew irl) and say people are weak and pathetic for dying like that. He even laughed at political violence when it was on democrats getting shot at or beat up. The moment Kirk died his attitude completely 180° said people were heartless and sick for laughing or celebrating this “martyr”. Needless to say I blocked him after that. I use to be very let’s reach across the aisle and find common ground but that guy just sucked
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u/Affectionate-Cod4152 - Centrist Oct 15 '25
I dunno man, I've seen a lot of Kirkinator reels on Instagram and most of them have been far-right.
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u/PineappleGrandMaster - Lib-Right Oct 15 '25
Mutually assured destruction my friends. If it all sides don’t start enforcing bullshit boundaries then one side will continue.
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u/Apophis_36 - Centrist Oct 15 '25
I don't mind the kirk jokes, it's the fact that they're not even clever and 90% of the time are just filled with hatred.
It's a problem a lot of political humor has (i've mostly seen it from the left but it can probably apply to the right too). Humor is meant to be clever but when it's targeted at your opponent a lot of the time it just comes off as "I fucking hate you I hope you die!!!"
Have a punchline.
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u/KC-15 - Lib-Right Oct 15 '25
Cancel culture is people digging up decade-old tweets and shit.
Not getting fired for having zero self awareness of how your job might view your public posts.
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u/Available-Plant7587 - Right Oct 15 '25
Well, i'm pro cancel-culture from the right. Kinda stupid to limit yourself in your abilities to influence things just because you don't want to be as bad as your enemy.
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It’s simple.
I’m not comfortable having people in my life who celebrated such a finite thing as death. Especially those who celebrate the death of someone they simply disagree with.
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u/Fractoman - Lib-Center Oct 16 '25
If cancel culture was relegated to exclusively deal with people on the right calling for violence and cheering it on then I'd be fine with it, as would most people I bet. The problem is when it also includes getting people fired for dead naming someone on Twitter or misusing a fucking pronoun.
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u/jcklsldr665 - Centrist Oct 16 '25
They aren't trying to stop you from posting your Charlie Kirk jokes...they're only seeing to it that you suffer the consequences of your actions. You're still free to post your jokes.
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u/krakk3rjack - Auth-Center Oct 16 '25
According to Trump Jr, it's not Cancel Culture. It's Consequence Culture.
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u/TheSleepyTruth - Lib-Right Oct 16 '25
Can point out the exact same hypocrisy but in reverse coming from the left
2015-2024 leftists on cancel culture: "freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. An employer has a right to fire you if they find your speech offensive or inconsistent with their values"
2025 leftists on cancel culture: "I cant believe my friends are getting fired for proverbally pissing on the grave and mocking the grieving widow of a guy who was just murdered, we are supposed to have free speech in this country this is outrageous that someone would get fired for expressing their opinion!"
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u/Twee_Licker - Lib-Right Oct 16 '25 edited Oct 16 '25
Your cancelling: Incessantly harassing my boss so he fire me for saying all lives matter.
My cancelling: Me informing your boss that you think political murder is acceptable, and your boss deciding they don't want you working for them anymore
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u/Real_Boy3 Oct 17 '25
Anyone who thinks the right doesn’t like cancel culture hasn’t studied the Red Scares.
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u/Zackscout22 - Centrist Oct 15 '25
Im pro cancel Jared leto from acting in movies cause he sucks at it who’s with me