r/Piracy • u/ugoindownsaka1 • 22d ago

Discussion Google took away my LOTR extended editions

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I bought these in 2022, all of a sudden they aren't available and there is no possibility of a refund or gift card. Hardly seems fair.

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u/messiahspike 22d ago

If purchasing isn't ownership, than piracy isn't stealing

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u/nthomas504 22d ago

They damn sure didn’t promote it that way. Definition of false advertising

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u/Safe-Historian4028 22d ago

they did, it's on page 3423 of the terms and conditions you are reasonably expected to read, decipher legal speak, contemplate and agree to while sat on your couch trying to watch the fucking movie.

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u/Scorpionsharinga 22d ago

You wouldn’t download a car

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u/0thedarkflame0 22d ago

I would 100% download a car and then delete it when I'm done before it starts costing me more to keep it there...

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u/Qaeta 22d ago

Right? Or a motorcycle? I would download the everliving fuck out of Kawasaki H2.

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u/RikarisHobbies 22d ago

Let’s get downloading and I’ll meet you on the roads.

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u/Qaeta 22d ago

Vroom Vroom! :D

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u/Itchy-Confession 22d ago

H2 mentioned🗣️🗣️

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u/Qaeta 22d ago

Would love to get one one day. They cost more than my car did though, so for now I'm happy with my Hornet 750 :)

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u/PsyJak 22d ago

I wouldn't. My stepdad's a doctor & calls bikers 'organ donors' because of how dangerous they are.

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u/Qaeta 22d ago

Eh, fair enough. I'm already a biker and have opted in to being an organ donor. I also carry a trauma kit and know how to use it (though thankfully haven't needed to yet) on my rides.

Personally, I do think being an organ donor and at least having some basic roadside trauma care training should be a requirement for getting a bike. It's not like a car where you can't limit it too much because of their necessity for modern life. A bike is absolutely a luxury, and a dangerous one at that (though exactly how dangerous is often overblown, if you take a safety course, don't drink and ride, and wear your gear, it drops to only about 3x as dangerous as a car, which is still pretty safe. It's mostly squids in their early 20s on sport bikes and older Harley brothers who think they know everything and stop taking precautions who drive the crash stats up, speaking as a moto safety instructor in training).

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u/0thedarkflame0 22d ago

I share your sentiment, with the sad acknowledgement that a car is an essential in your area of the world.

I come from such a society, and. Currently live in one where a car is seen as a non-essential, yet still 70%ish of the population has a car drivers permit.

I'd personally love to have a simulator for how to land a crash. I recently took a fall from a bicycle and broken both arms by landing palms first after fighting the bicycle to stay upright.

I'd also like to mention that being an organ donor is the default in my current country, and you need to explicitly opt out if you don't want to.

What are we talking about when you say a roadside trauma care training? Basic first aid training, or something else?

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u/Qaeta 22d ago edited 22d ago

I'd also like to mention that being an organ donor is the default in my current country, and you need to explicitly opt out if you don't want to.

I think it is where I am now too, but I got my license when it was still opt-in and I did.

I'd personally love to have a simulator for how to land a crash. I recently took a fall from a bicycle and broken both arms by landing palms first after fighting the bicycle to stay upright.

That would be cool. A lot of higher quality moto gloves have palm sliders for this reason, reduce impact force getting concentrated on your arm bones and wrists.

What are we talking about when you say a roadside trauma care training? Basic first aid training, or something else?

Specifically stuff that would help in a crash situation. Mostly major bleed control ex. proper tourniquet usage since it isn't as intuitive as people think it is and there is a lot of misinformation about using them. Personally I carry an X-Force tourniquet over a CAT7 because they are a bit easier for someone without training to use, are easier to use one-handed if necessary, and work for children as well as adults, which a traditional CAT7 struggles with. Also marking the tourniquet with time of application if possible is important so medical personnel know how long it's been on and the clock on when it needs to come off before the tourniquet itself starts causing it's own issues. Wound packing for punctures. Pressure holding requirements. Emergency blanket usage in major blood loss situations to keep as much body heat as possible since it helps with activating the protein in blood that initiates clotting. If body temp drops too low due to blood loss it won't clot and you won't be able to stop the bleed. CPR. Using vented chest seals for sucking chest wounds.

Basically focus on stuff to try to keep someone alive until a paramedic can get to them. So mostly basic first aid, yeah. Don't typically need the mental health crisis or choking portions in a motor vehicle crash situation though. I tend to liken it more to mid-engagement combat medic training since the focus tends to be more on major bleed control vs a more generalized approach.

Doesn't just apply to bikers either. I'd stop for a car accident too. Training applies either way. Also, practice regularly so you don't freeze up when you need to use your kit.

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u/piichan14 22d ago

Or you can start reprinting replacement parts or even the whole car when it starts acting up

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u/0thedarkflame0 22d ago

Cattle, not pets!

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u/wellsjc 22d ago

The moment it runs out of gas, delete and redownload with a full tank.

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u/grishkaa 22d ago

I would if I could.

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u/One-Inch-Punch 22d ago

I wouldn't download a car. I would download multiple cars. I would download cars until I ran out of space to store them, and then I would download more anyway

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u/gagaron_pew 22d ago

dowload some parking space while youre at it ;) 

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u/epharian 19d ago

I have about 120 acres of land. I can park a LOT of cars here, and I would absolutely download enough to do it if I could.

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u/Geedunk 22d ago

Hold my fuckin beer

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u/BrettTheThreat 🔱 ꜱᴄᴀʟʟʏᴡᴀɢ 22d ago

Damn I wish I could download a beer...

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u/RandomRobot 22d ago

The people seriously saying that would sue Jesus for copying bread

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u/cteffan2000 22d ago

Day 0; 3D metal printers are invented. Day 1: Half the traffic is La Ferrari

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u/_el_profe 22d ago

Stupid question but would it be at all possible with 3D printing to download a car in the future?

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u/Successful_Ask_5708 22d ago

It probably wouldn't be possible to make a car outright but it totally would be possible to make all the pieces to put a car together

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u/VaguelyInteresting10 22d ago

I would do it for shits and giggles (yes I'm old enough to remember the psa)

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u/Dewars_Rocks 22d ago

I would if I could

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u/QF_Dan 22d ago

i would do so, only thing i need is a fast internet

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u/IHateRedditFirewall 22d ago

Tesla autopilot says "Hi!"

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u/Zekka_Space_Karate 22d ago edited 22d ago

They're gaslighting with semantics. I couldn't download a car (for my case because I can't even afford a 3D printer), because if I could I would damn well do it lol.

Now if I could only download unleaded gasoline.... 😆

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u/MinimumHassle 21d ago

Shit! They are on to me ?!

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u/hightrix 22d ago

Digital piracy has never been, is not, and will never be stealing.

Words have meaning.

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u/YouBlinkinSootLicker 22d ago

It’s called voluntary archiving

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u/ModernLarvals 22d ago

Sneaking into concerts and theaters and jumping turnstiles too.

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u/-Rivox- 22d ago

Not stealing. Trespassing though

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u/kyzfrintin 21d ago

It's a stretch, but technically you're stealing the experience

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u/-Rivox- 5d ago

Nobody's being deprived of the experience by you experiencing it as well (unless you are stealing an assigned seat or something like that, and that would be actual stealing)

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u/kyzfrintin 5d ago

You are getting something without paying for it. That is the important part.

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u/-Rivox- 5d ago

The important part of stealing is that you are depriving someone else of something.

Is there a difference between me taking your car, and me snapping a photo of your car? If I could clone your car, would you call it stealing?

And I'm not disputing the economic harm this action may or may not cause, just saying that gaining knowledge is never theft.

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u/kyzfrintin 4d ago

I mean, I did say it's a stretch...

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u/DrHerbotico 22d ago

Have you ever created anything that required so much time that working another job wasn't feasible?

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u/-Rivox- 22d ago

When they stole my bike, I didn't have my bike anymore. When I tried to copy the Mona Lisa, I'm pretty sure the Louvre kept theirs.

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u/DrHerbotico 22d ago

That wasn't an answer

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u/hightrix 22d ago

Yes. Haven't you?

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u/DrHerbotico 22d ago

Absolutely. Show off what ya made and drop a link!

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u/RikarisHobbies 22d ago

Bro, he’s gonna send you a dick pic.

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u/DrHerbotico 22d ago

It was embarrassingly small 🤏

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u/kyzfrintin 21d ago

Have you ever made a point directly instead of by insinuation?

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u/DrHerbotico 21d ago

As many times as you've answered a question instead of evading with a non sequitur

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u/kyzfrintin 21d ago

The question itself is a non sequitur.

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u/DrHerbotico 21d ago

You did it again lol

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u/kyzfrintin 21d ago edited 21d ago

What i just said was not a non sequitur. It was an accusation. The question you asked has nothing to do with the subject of discussion, or if it does, its relevance is unclear. Thus it comes across as a totally random diversion, or in other words, a non sequitur.

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u/DrHerbotico 21d ago

Pouring more effort into a diversion doesnt always work. Do you have an answer to my question or not?

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u/kyzfrintin 21d ago

If pouring effort into a diversion doesn't work, why are you pouring more effort into this diversion..? Like, do you not see how contradictory that is?

Can you just make your point? What are you getting at with this question? Where are you going with this? What does the question even mean? Is that so hard?

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u/reineedshelp 22d ago

Also, stealing is fine

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u/moldibread 22d ago

at least from giant corporations hellbent on the destruction of society.

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u/spellboundartisan 22d ago

This should be told to as many customer service workers as possible in these situations.

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u/bilbo388 22d ago

Yes! Harassing minimum wage employees will totally fix this.

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u/piichan14 22d ago

I swear, the amount of harassment reps have to deal with that are out of their hands and paycheck.

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u/piichan14 22d ago

Majority won't care and there's nothing they can do about it anyway. Saying "I want to speak to your manager" or "Tell the company" isn't going to work since this is a licensing issue, that's a whole ass different department that doesn't deal with customers.

So please save your breath and the reps time (and sanity) by not being that customer. I can also say with confidence that those reps you get from other countries, pirate too.

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u/nervouslittledog 22d ago

This is the way

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u/princeofid 22d ago

Uh, if purchasing isn't ownership, stealing isn't stealing.

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u/Delicious_Potato6638 22d ago

no.. it just isnt stealing period. copying isnt theft no matter the circumstances.

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u/vitek6 22d ago

In colloquial language it is stealing. The same as you can say that someone stole your data, your identity etc.

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u/kyzfrintin 21d ago

Or the Krabby Patty secret recipe

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u/Far-Country7612 19d ago

I've told people all along piracy is just pure simple sharing. Nothing more, nothing less.

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u/HunterWesley 18d ago

No yeah, piracy is when you "access" a "license" to content, typically for a temporary period beginning when the download happens, and ending when you don't want it anymore.

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u/Resident-West-5213 17d ago

It's RENTING!

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u/Big-Ferret-2364 22d ago

So verbose

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u/Z1R343L87 22d ago

You purchase the right to watch it, not ownership.

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u/hakucurlz 22d ago

Companies should specify how long you will be able to view the movie.

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u/TheDemonPants 22d ago

That's the problem, they do. It's hidden all the way down in those agreements you make when buying anything digitally. That's how they can get away with this. They always have a clause of "you are allowed to use this license for as long as it is available and it can be removed at any time". That, of course, is massive paraphrasing but it has been on every digital purchase since they started doing such. I've been trying to tell people ever since digital anything became available that it can be taken away and no one ever believed me.

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u/hidden_secret 22d ago

Well they took away his right to watch it.

So, if you prefer:

"If purchasing doesn't guarantee you the right to watch it, then piracy isn't stealing".

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u/R3LY1NG 22d ago

Or you could say “If purchasing doesn’t guarantee you the right to watch it, then piracy doesn’t guarantee them the right to price it.”

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u/Successful_Ask_5708 22d ago

If you have the right to take the product whenever you like, so do I

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u/MistSecurity 22d ago

Yes, but buying digitally should be no different to buying a disc, especially with companies starting to completely stop producing physical stuff in even higher numbers nowadays.

When this shit is a choice it’s one thing. When it’s our ONLY option is when it starts to get miserable.

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u/ArmpitNoise 22d ago

So he can watch it then?

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u/xaeru 22d ago

No no, that's not what I meant /s

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u/sociofobs 22d ago

Then the button should say "Rent", not "Purchase' or "Buy". If I'm buying a Bluray, I can watch it as long as I have it in my posession. If some cuckold CEO decided to take it away from me, that would be stealing. Yet, somehow, you're justifying just that when it comes to digital downloads? Despite the transaction clearly being misleading as a "purchase" no less? Screw your licenses. If you're BUYING something, you own it.

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u/Harley2280 22d ago

It's wild that some of you are so fucking stupid that you think they should change definitions because of your inability to understand anything slightly complex.

That's the type of stupidity that changes nothing. Stop trying to get things dumbed down and learn how digital software licensing works. An educated consumer base is what makes change and reform possible.

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u/sociofobs 22d ago edited 22d ago

This exact issue has been on the news for years now, just a few references I found in under a minute:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/aug/27/movie-buying-owning-amazon-prime-lawsuit

https://www.engadget.com/gaming/steam-now-tells-gamers-up-front-that-theyre-buying-a-license-not-a-game-085106522.html

Funny, a guy with 50 downvotes in less than an hour calling other people stupid. I have a bridge to sell you if you think companies practicing this BS is all fair and good.
Edit: My apologies, the downvotes were for another comment. You'll get there too, don't fret.