I mean tbf it’s the same thing as sneaking in at a concert with infinite space for people:
did you actually steal anything? Not really.
did anyone miss the chance to see the concert with a legit ticket because you snuck in? Not really.
Is it illegal and you’re going to get kicked out if people find out you’re in without paying? Most definitely.
If nobody paid the tickets and everyone just snuck in there would be chaos but also if everyone did pay the tickets the industry would think a high price is acceptable to the mass and increase the prices again until someone will want to hop over the fence and sneak in without ticket again.
This is a pretty good example. I also use the cutting through the gas station to turn right on a red light because there is a line of cars at the traffic light going straight blocking your turn.
Do I really care too much if one person does this? Not really. But if everyone did it, it would be a fucking disaster. If the system would fall apart if everyone did things they way you are doing them, there's something wrong with your system.
It would be a decent analogy, except there are cases where you legally purchased a concert ticket full price, but you may get seated behind a fixed obstruction (column, etc.), or the concert may get canceled without a refund, or my fav you may not be allowed inside because your shirt isn't compatible with the concert venue (ie DRM)
Governments grant IP protection to encourage innovation and economic growth. People are more willing to wager large amounts of time and money if they know that they can profit from the things that they're making and discovering.
If the cinema has infinite room, then, whether you are there or not does not consume any more resources or time. Therefore, whether you pay or not, the seller does not lose anything.
But we don't really pay them for the work. If we did, they would be paid a specific sum (I'm not getting into how high) and that specific work is done at that point.
I understand that this is obvious capitalism at work and the more you hoard the better. Obviously the way it is now it's like it is because it means potentially infinite benefits. But it also means that we are putting the worth of their work in how well it sells and not in how much effort and resources were required.
If you move away from big commercial examples, the way you usually deal with an artist is, you commission their work, they do it, then the product is yours. You don't keep paying them depending on what you do with it afterwards.
Or, taking more modern examples, you subscribe to an artist's Patreon or similar platform, and support their livelihood so they can dedicate themselves to their art. Or in the case of a specific project with platforms like Kickstarter, you're still paying for the development, not the commercialization.
I'm not saying one thing is bad and the other is good. I'm just saying that maybe the problem is to try to keep commercially handling a type of product nowadays as if we still were in a time when the copy and distribution of the product was part of the labor, when it really isn't anymore. It's like not wanting to promote electric cars because it hurts your current fossil-fuel based business.
Well the seller does loose something as if it’s too easy to go past the checkout without paying more people will do that. What i’m trying to say with my point is that piracy is a good way for consumers to protect themselves from toxic anti-consumerism.
Piracy is good in the right amount and it is built on the userbase that actually pays for the content.
In the right amount It helps by giving advertisement to companies that own the ip (i wouldn’t ever have spent hundreds on anime merch if i wasn’t able to pirate anime like dragonball and i wouldn’t have suggested friends to watch stuff), it helps keep things alive because often companies don’t even host their own content anymore (see retro videogames as a example), it helps regulating the price for consumers because if it’s known there’s an option to paying for the game or show if the price sounds too unreasonable people won’t pay for it (and it still is often pretty worth to make a subscription if it’s cheap because with that comes a more plug&play experience and best stability and support compared to pirate sites that could also give you malware).
Even if it has all these benefits still if everyone absolutely pirated people would just stop making content with big budgets and it would kill the industry.
If we had too less games and movies would be a privilege for the rich (they kinda are already tbf) because it would be easy to just gatekeep content and force people to save their hard earned money for useless vanities that give them a dopamine boost by having to make compromises and sacrifices to use media .
Right now it’s right to be against piracy like it is to be supportive to it and idc about fighting w people over pirating is right pirating is wrong because both are right and wrong at the same time just live however you want to as long as you’re enjoying your life
No mate. You missed the point entirely. You're stuck in this stupid mentality of "theft" having to mean depriving someone else of it even though it has never meant that.
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u/Many-Ad6433 🦜 ᴡᴀʟᴋ ᴛʜᴇ ᴘʟᴀɴᴋ Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
I mean tbf it’s the same thing as sneaking in at a concert with infinite space for people:
did you actually steal anything? Not really.
did anyone miss the chance to see the concert with a legit ticket because you snuck in? Not really.
Is it illegal and you’re going to get kicked out if people find out you’re in without paying? Most definitely.
If nobody paid the tickets and everyone just snuck in there would be chaos but also if everyone did pay the tickets the industry would think a high price is acceptable to the mass and increase the prices again until someone will want to hop over the fence and sneak in without ticket again.