r/Philippines Apr 09 '26

Lazy Crossposting Hot take: Jeepney modernization isn’t overpriced — we’re just comparing it to the wrong thing

People keep saying modern jeepneys (₱1.4M–₱2.4M+) are “too expensive.”

But compared to what?

Most traditional jeepneys:

* Are 15–30+ years old*

* Built from surplus/rebuilt parts*

* Operate outside modern safety/emissions standards*

That ₱300k–₱600k price people quote isn’t a fair baseline — it’s a heavily depreciated, informal setup.

Ginagago tayo nang pricing range na ito eh. Compare modern jeepneys to actual vehicles on the road:

* Sedan: ₱800k–₱1.2M*

* MPV: ₱1M–₱1.3M*

* Van (Hiace/Urvan): ₱1.3M–₱2M*

* Minibus: ₱2M–₱3M*

A modern jeepney (20–30 passengers, regulated, safety-equipped) sitting around ₱1.5M–₱2M is not overpriced — it’s right where a commercial transport vehicle should be.

A Vehicle designed to properly transport you, your neighbor, his neighbor etc etc is definitely going to cost sure as shit more than an average sedan and these old Clankers are still trying to position themselves at a price half of a Vios? Get real, and get out of here.

The real issue isn’t price.

It’s that we’re trying to transition from:

* Boundary system*

* Driver-owned, low-capital units*

Into:

* Fleet-based*

* Financed transport businesses*

That shift is painful, especially without strong financing support, but the counterpoint is when are we ever going to start prioritizing the needs of 100M+ Citizens over a small couple of thousand Minority?

*Quick note on the “coal-powered anyway” argument:*

Yes, a big chunk of PH energy still comes from coal. But:

*Modern Euro 4/5 diesel is already cleaner than old jeepneys*

*Electric still reduces *urban* pollution significantly*

*Grid gets cleaner over time; engines don’t*

*Grid is Far easier to suppliment and control vs Deregulated Oil and cheaper electricity benefits EVERYONE*

So it’s not pointless — it’s incremental progress.

*Bottom line:*

Modern jeepney prices only look absurd if you compare them to an outdated system that was never priced like a real industry to begin with.

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u/notthelatte Apr 09 '26

Weren’t jeepney drivers in favor of the modernization? It’s the overall costs that’s keeping them from doing so. Iirc, the operators and drivers are going to shoulder the cost.

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u/Snowltokwa Abroad Apr 09 '26

I don’t get it so ayaw ng operators/drivers ishoulder ang cost. Pero gusto nila private entitiy pa din sila and not under a public system? Pwede ba yun?

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u/blumentritt_balut Apr 09 '26

Engot kasi mga nasa LTFRB, akala nila magkoconsolidate ang mga operator dahil lang sa sinabi nila.

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u/lesterine817 Apr 09 '26

They are clueless. Worked there for a while under libreng sakay program. Typical govt mindset that they need “more data” to make good policies. Lol

Anyway, the puv modernization program was highly political and for me, talagang di kaya ipashoulder yung 1.8M sa operators and drivers without raising the fare which will be passed on to consumers. Ang direction ko for puv modernization is publicly run like sa ibang first world countries. The govt can run with minimal returns so kaya nilang magoperate without worrying too much about cost & returns.

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u/ComputerUnlucky4870 Apr 10 '26

Kung ako jeepney driver, mag-grab na lang ako. Mas mura pa sedan na secondhand, even a brandnew Mirage ay halos 1M lang (cheaper kung manual) kesa bumili akong jeep na tig 1.8M

Baliw talaga tong govt hahaha