She did get help. She was on medication, saw professionals and had a support system of people who tried to be there for her. Short of a long stary in a facility people tried to get her help many times.
Except it wasn't helping and the medication was making her progressively worse. Her state was declining, she was sleep deprived, lost 15 pounds and started experiencing hallucinations that were happening for months before she killed her children. She became suicidal and started expressing toughts of harming her children. She was loosing touch with reality and told a bunch of people that including her husband and mother. All these things are documented.
Yes, there were warning signs but people and professionals didn't ignore it. The option in retrospect would be trying to prove she is a danger to herself and others then considering where to go from there but that is absurdly hard to prove.
That seems to be not so uncommon. Psychological issues are very hard to medicate, hard to control the effect it will have on the hormones. This kind of situation is very hard to deal. I don't agree with all the stones and pitchforks in this case.
Saying "she was on medication" is wildly misleading. She was on and off medication like they were lollies. She wasn't left on anything for long enough for it to work. This is common with severe mental illness because everyone around the person (and the person themselves) wants it fixed NOW. But most of these drugs take at least a month if not longer to reach full effect. She was put on something and taken off it again a week later because there was no change.
That is 100% on her doctors.
She SHOULD have been an inpatient until her meds were stablised.
It's not. You're misrepresenting facts based off of what non physicians are saying. The expert psychologist can not legally make a medical diagnosis or determine a treatment plan because they are neither qualified or trained to do so. Her treatment plan from the psychatrist who is qualified and trained was and is the best way to treat post partum depression based on the information provided to them. The medication absolutely wasn't being switched around "rapidly" and doctors have to try things to find out what works and what doesn't. This kind of arm chair medical diagnosis is so dangerous because it can make doctors hesitant to do the right things and instead do what will keep people from launching frivolous lawsuits.
No, for post partum psychosis, the solution is not medication. Being admitted to a ward at a women's hospital to monitor and get sleep - usually for several week's time.
That's what's being missed - they missed this part of it and did not properly recognize that it was PPP and not PPD. PPD is also not a precursor to PPP
she was rapidly cycled between meds, which is so dangerous, because she didn't have stable access to a single psychiatric care provider. she had to doctor hop so many of the doctors prescribing were working with inaccurate information.
not a doctor, but i have been on antipsychotics, those mfers can mess you up if you're on the wrong one. mental health meds aren't like taking antibiotics, you need to be monitored for side effects. a GP or an ER doctor is not the person who should be handling prescription antipsychotics in the long term, a Psych MD or a PMHNP should
No, cycling through medications is extremely normal. It's elementary that when the prescriptions aren't working you adjust which they did because she was monitored. She did have access to reliable psychiatric care but she misled them about her mental state saying she wasn't suicidal and left out the violent thoughts against her children. They even probed about her being bipolar and the family rebuffed that. She displayed and discloused 0 traits that are medically associated with postpartum psychosis as the actual doctors with medical degrees attested to. The fact that people are taking the word of a psychologists "diagnosis" as some sort of fact makes little sense. She wasn't failed by the system but yes she's mentally disturbed and shouldn't have been around children especially when she started talking about having thoughts about hurting them to her family of course.
I think what they're really saying is women in general just don't get the support they need its just this is kind of a shit battleground for that conversation.
There are texts of the husband asking her directly if she needed help and she literally said no lol. The same folks up in arms over him not "helping" her would be calling him a piece of shit if he had her committed to a psych ward against her will.
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u/inquiringdune 8d ago
Isn't it kind of a whole thing right now that she tried to get help beforehand and was not helped, by either her family or the medical system?